Offensive Line Thread

[NDdomer2]

Is there some metric being used or did the OU guy just homer the hell out of that

 

[BobbyMac]

Ed Warriner... rented a condo.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Warriner that high lol

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

How in the hell is Doug Marrone already a top 10 O line coach???

 

[Crazy Balki]

How in the hell is Doug Marrone already a top 10 O line coach???

Honestly, a top 10 coach with top 4 level OL talent is pretty underwhelming.

 

[BobbyMac]

For the believers

https://sportscrack.com/products/olu-shirt-offensive-line-university

 

[T-Boone]

I saw the ESPN top 100 NFL players.
Q at 31 seems low or am I just biased?
I mean is Prescott at 16th absurd or it is just me? Some of the names on that list above Q took me by surprise but I don't keep a very close eye on NFL.

 

[greyhammer90]

For the believers

https://sportscrack.com/products/olu-shirt-offensive-line-university

Damn that is sick.

 

[Irish#1]

I saw the ESPN top 100 NFL players.
Q at 31 seems low or am I just biased?
I mean is Prescott at 16th absurd or it is just me? Some of the names on that list above Q took me by surprise but I don't keep a very close eye on NFL.

Geez, there's a lot of guys I wouldn't put ahead of Q. Surprised they would put him that low considering they wrote this, "He has been voted an All-Pro in all three seasons -- the first offensive lineman and the fifth player since the 1970 merger to be so honored. "

Prescott is getting the Cowboy's love that never ends. If any other team had their track record in the last 25 years they wouldn't get the attention they get.

 

[ulukinatme]

For the believers

https://sportscrack.com/products/olu...ine-university

I've been reppin' sportscrack since at least 2012, I've got like 8 or 9 of their shirts now I swear they have a mole in IE, so many phrases and memes here end up on shirts on that site. They seem to be very Irish friendly as most of their college shirts seem to be ND related. My favorite is a shirt they don't even make anymore. It was a purple faced BK head that said "Don't poke the bear!" Not as relevant these days now that we have a kinder, gentler Kelly.

I've got 3 of these, 2 in green (One was falling apart after about a decade of wear) and a blue.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Didnt get to watch today, but see a lot of talk about the OL massively underperforming. How bad was it really? Is it broken beyond repair?


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[Polish Leppy 22]

Remember when BK could'e hired Justin Frye (now the UCLA OL coach) and hired his buddy Quinn instead? Whose Oline looks better?

 

[FWIrish4]

I’m very curious to hear input from others on the board who know OLine play better than myself and some of the grades. But man, from my opinion, we can’t control the line of scrimmage at all and it was Toledo.

it’s incredible how much the run game opened up with Buchner coming in (his runs and Kyren’s long TD). Just so disappointing we can’t get any push with Coan in. Not sure if it’s scheme, OL talent or just no respect for Coan keeping but damn it’s bad.

 

[Trait Expectations]

Remember when BK could'e hired Justin Frye (now the UCLA OL coach) and hired his buddy Quinn instead? Whose Oline looks better?

How did Frye's OL look the past 3 years? I believe we almost won the Joe Moore 2 times in that span? I'm all for demanding more of this OL but acting like the previous 3 years didn't happen isn't fair either. Quinn's recruiting/talent evaluation is in serious question.

 

[BabyIrish]

Didnt get to watch today, but see a lot of talk about the OL massively underperforming. How bad was it really? Is it broken beyond repair?


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What I witnessed today reminded me of the 07 o line. I never thought I’d say that again as an ND fan. Do I think it’s broken beyond repair? No. But the offensive staff as a whole really need to focus on this aspect of the team because we can’t do anything as an offense if it doesn’t get better. Honestly if the o line was 50% better we probably blow this team out easily. Plays were there to be made in the passing game but Coan couldn’t because of the constant pressure.

 

[Irish2155]

Very disappointed to see this play so far. It will cost us a game or two this year.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Remember when BK could'e hired Justin Frye (now the UCLA OL coach) and hired his buddy Quinn instead? Whose Oline looks better?

I also remember when BK could have hired the guy coaching Tampa Bays line. You know, the team that just won the superbowl and didn't allow Brady to get touched on Thursday night.

The players were clamoring for them but I guess Kelly's buddy needed a better job.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

How did Frye's OL look the past 3 years? I believe we almost won the Joe Moore 2 times in that span? I'm all for demanding more of this OL but acting like the previous 3 years didn't happen isn't fair either. Quinn's recruiting/talent evaluation is in serious question.

ND's Oline of 2019 and 2020 looks a lot more like it was based more on the players, not the coaching.

 

[Irishnuke]

ND's Oline of 2019 and 2020 looks a lot more like it was based more on the players, not the coaching.

So is this year more on the players or coaching? Clearly injuries have screwed us over. You’d think with the players we’ve recruited, at least rating wise, we should have enough depth to handle some injuries. Certainly doesn’t seem to be the case.

 

[benneboy]

Would've liked to have seen Alt get a crack. I'm sure they played the best option but hot damn that was rough

 

[SBirishlawyer]

Did Alt play tackle his last year of high school or was he still playing tight end? Also maybe he didn’t have a senior year with Covid.

 

[IrishLax]

So the craziest thing is that Patterson was our highest graded player on offense per PFF… but the rest of the OL was so incredibly bad that it didn’t matter.

IMO, if you’re not going to move Patterson to LT, then I don’t know what you do.

 

[EvilleIrish]

So the craziest thing is that Patterson was our highest graded player on offense per PFF… but the rest of the OL was so incredibly bad that it didn’t matter.

IMO, if you’re not going to move Patterson to LT, then I don’t know what you do.

Kind of where I’m at. Baker is comically bad.

 

[Irish#1]

Would love to know OMM’s thoughts right now.

 

[T-Boone]

So the craziest thing is that Patterson was our highest graded player on offense per PFF… but the rest of the OL was so incredibly bad that it didn’t matter.

IMO, if you’re not going to move Patterson to LT, then I don’t know what you do.

Move Lugg to LT

 

[T-Boone]

What ever they do I think they will be a lot better against Purdue. They are always bad the first 2 games. It is part of the tradition.

 

[SBirishlawyer]

Would love to know OMM’s thoughts right now.

did we lose him with the site conversion. Does anyone have a way to get him back?

 

[317Irish]

Move Lugg to LT

No.

 

[tommyIRISH23]

So the craziest thing is that Patterson was our highest graded player on offense per PFF… but the rest of the OL was so incredibly bad that it didn’t matter.

IMO, if you’re not going to move Patterson to LT, then I don’t know what you do.

I was listening to the Dryskel podcast today and he had mentioned that he received information via multiple sources that the last few years McGlinchey, Alex bars and other veterans were watching game film and coming up with game plans and doing team instruction for the o-line not Quinn. I’m asking you specifically because you seem to have a good pulse on the program. If this turns out to be true...this might be the most absurd thing I have heard since Willingham’s golf adventures.


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[Polish Leppy 22]

So is this year more on the players or coaching? Clearly injuries have screwed us over. You’d think with the players we’ve recruited, at least rating wise, we should have enough depth to handle some injuries. Certainly doesn’t seem to be the case.

Combo of both so far, but the Oline shouldn't be this bad. Quinn might be getting exposed.