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That's weird. Never understood why videos like this would have their embedding disabled? Don't they want people to see it?

Anywho, did you watch it? Thoughts? I actually think it makes way more sense than Malesandria (sp) resurrecting him.
 

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I'm on my phone, so can somebody help a brotha out and embed this YouTube? It's a really interesting theory on an alternative for Jon Snow's resurrection.

http://youtu.be/sBwwyRGziLE

Thanks, reps, and good stuff Wooly.
I can definitely buy this story line.
Listening now to the theory of why Tyrion is also not who he appears to be. Seeing another clip of theories on the origin of the White Walkers.
 

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Very interesting.

I'm not yet buying the Tyrion theory though. And I don't really have a reason why I'm not.
 

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That's weird. Never understood why videos like this would have their embedding disabled? Don't they want people to see it?

Anywho, did you watch it? Thoughts? I actually think it makes way more sense than Malesandria (sp) resurrecting him.

Thought it was extremely plausible. Also ties in with Summerhall from the books, in addition to what he mentioned. Jon Snow could go a lot of different ways, I'll be very interested to see what happens.
 

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Thanks, reps, and good stuff Wooly.
I can definitely buy this story line.
Listening now to the theory of why Tyrion is also not who he appears to be. Seeing another clip of theories on the origin of the White Walkers.

Just watched that one, really interesting video and kind of ties into some stuff discussed in the Book thread. Too bad they didn't release the whole season at once.
 

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"Reborn in the Funeral Pyre" is super plausible, and I'm amazed someone on this board hasn't thought of it with all the discussions we've had.

It makes a lot of sense, when you consider that Daenerys as we know her didn't exist until she was reborn in Drogo's funeral pyre as The Mother of Dragons, aka a true Targ as they were in the past.
 

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Lol at the Shownlies, aka the Unsullied. That video suggests that "many show viewers were shocked" yada yada when Jon Snow got stabbed.

Seriously? My wife didn't read any of the books but she thought the Ollie foreshadowing was painfully obvious.
 

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Yeah that's a fun one. If that's the eventuality I'll give credit to the show about being subtle about it. They totally screwed up the Shae betrayal in the show by telegraphing it the whole season.
 

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Yeah, to be fair though minus the Red Wedding there have been very few deaths in the books that I didn't have at least some idea in the leading paragraphs. The Shae screw up was so notable to me because that was one of the biggest gut punch moments in the third book. Because you're reading it from Tyrion's (partial) POV, they seem so happy together.
 

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So, I've been rewatching the series so that everything is fresh in my mind as this new season progresses. I just finished season 2, which saw Jaqen H'ghar introduce the idea of the Faceless Men and how badass they are. However, it brought up a few questions for me, considering his introduction. He was in the cells beneath King's Landing, and is then taken by Yoren as property of the Night's Watch. He's in the wagon as one of the most dangerous prisoners, along with Rorge and Biter.

My questions:

1.) Why was Jaqen in King's Landing? We know that the Faceless Men have infiltrated everywhere throughout the land, so what was he doing in King's Landing? Hunting a name to cross off of his list, or was he seeking information?

2.) Why was he in the cells? Was it a rare instance of a Faceless Man screwing up, or was it intentional?


I assume he was purposely in the cells, because Jaqen H'ghar. But that brings up further questions:

3.) If he allowed himself to be improsed purposely, was it because he knew he would eventually be taken for the Night's Watch?

4.) If so, why did he want to go to The Wall?

5. If not The Wall, was it just so he could escape en route to The Watch, and go do more Faceless Man things? This one doesn't make much sense, considering he can change/disappear at will, so I assume he WANTED to be with the Night's Watch for some reason.

There's no way he could have known that he'd be travelling with Arya Stark, nor that he would have the opportunity to imbed himself with the Lannister troops at Harrenhall.

So what in the hell was Jaqen plotting when all of the action of GoT started? Something big had to have been afoot for a Faceless Man to have been in King's Landing, and for that man to then head towards the Night's Watch.
 

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Looking forward to seeing Bran and Baylon's storylines continue tonight. Have a feeling Bran will become quite the badass.
 

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I have not been able to confirm this but I was told today that Kit Harington is Orthodox. Today is Orthodox Easter.

Resurrection Sunday for Jon Snow????
 

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I have not been able to confirm this but I was told today that Kit Harington is Orthodox. Today is Orthodox Easter.

Resurrection Sunday for Jon Snow????

I'm guessing it will be one more episode before the resurrection. Figure they will fight their way out of the room tonight with the help of John's wolf and the red woman, then next week fire John up.

Edit... and the 3rd episode is called Oathbreaker. Does that refer somehow to Breinne of Tarth (who has Oathkeeper), or does it refer to John Snow who has not exactly kept all of oaths.
 
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I'm guessing it will be one more episode before the resurrection. Figure they will fight their way out of the room tonight with the help of John's wolf and the red woman, then next week fire John up.

Edit... and the 3rd episode is called Oathbreaker. Does that refer somehow to Breinne of Tarth (who has Oathkeeper), or does it refer to John Snow who has not exactly kept all of oaths.

Well the night's watch oath says "Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death." So him dying and being resurrected literally breaks his oath.
 

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Is it a guarantee that Jon comes back?

Wouldn't it be the ultimate shot in the nuts if GRRM planned all along for Jon's parentage to be discovered, and make everyone assume that he HAS to come back, only for Jon to stay permanently dead?

That would be so GRRM that it hurts.
 

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Is it a guarantee that Jon comes back?

Wouldn't it be the ultimate shot in the nuts if GRRM planned all along for Jon's parentage to be discovered, and make everyone assume that he HAS to come back, only for Jon to stay permanently dead?

That would be so GRRM that it hurts.

It would make the ToJ pointless. It's clear the show is trying to cut anything that can possibly confuse a general audiance like LSH, Jon Connington, ect. So there is no way they would do the ToJ scene and have to try and explain who Rhaegar is if it didn't play a significant role. So IMO yes it's basically confirmed Jon will be back.
 

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I have not been able to confirm this but I was told today that Kit Harington is Orthodox. Today is Orthodox Easter.

Resurrection Sunday for Jon Snow????

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Well the night's watch oath says "Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death." So him dying and being resurrected literally breaks his oath.

I don't think he will stay with the night's watch when he returns, so his watch in all likelihood has ended. i'm guessing he leaves the wall and enters the chaos in the kingdoms. i'm hoping he goes recaptures his home PDQ. can't wait to see Ramsey experience a painful parting.

Is it a guarantee that Jon comes back?

Wouldn't it be the ultimate shot in the nuts if GRRM planned all along for Jon's parentage to be discovered, and make everyone assume that he HAS to come back, only for Jon to stay permanently dead?

That would be so GRRM that it hurts.

You know nothing IrishLion :)
 

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First bombshell / potential book spoiler. CotF says Bran won't be staying in the cave forever.

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I'm guessing it will be one more episode before the resurrection. Figure they will fight their way out of the room tonight with the help of John's wolf and the red woman, then next week fire John up.

Edit... and the 3rd episode is called Oathbreaker. Does that refer somehow to Breinne of Tarth (who has Oathkeeper), or does it refer to John Snow who has not exactly kept all of oaths.

well it didn't take them anytime to get out and start building a fire... lol.

First bombshell / potential book spoiler. CotF says Bran won't be staying in the cave forever.

Sent from my Galaxy Note4 using Tapatalk.

Did we think he was??
 

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well it didn't take them anytime to get out and start building a fire... lol.



Did we think he was??
I though so. Figured he'd grow into the trees like Bloodraven.

Tyrion the dragonrider all but confirmed.
 
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