[NFL] vBook: Colts vs Patriots (Deflategate)

[pkt77242]

https://medium.com/@bruceallen/56-lies-the-nfl-told-during-deflategate-f51f74fe8aec#.shb12nwrd

 

[Andy in Sactown]

Go away.

 

[pkt77242]

Go away.

Why?

I am not even a fan of the Patriots (the Vikings are my team), what is so bad about pointing out that the NFL completely fucked this one up?

 

[irishfan]

NFL asking the NY Times to detract statements about their concussion study is so ironic given how Deflategate went down also. Horrible league that has an amazing product to sell.

 

[Andy in Sactown]

https://medium.com/@bruceallen/56-lies-the-nfl-told-during-deflategate-f51f74fe8aec#.shb12nwrd

Go away.

Why?

I am not even a fan of the Patriots (the Vikings are my team), what is so bad about pointing out that the NFL completely fucked this one up?

Well, I made that post intentionally brief and open-ended. No italics.

It was made as such so that it could be interpreted as the subject should go away, but as you are the last person to bump this shit-show the last two times I can see how you could see this as being directed at you.

Either way, get on the six year old girl level and Let It Go.

 

[irishfan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">US Appeals court reinstates New England Patriots' Tom Brady's suspension over 'deflategate', per Reuters.</p>— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/724622662115418112">April 25, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[zelezo vlk]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">US Appeals court reinstates New England Patriots' Tom Brady's suspension over 'deflategate', per Reuters.</p>— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/724622662115418112">April 25, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Dang, ya beat me to it. Craziness.

 

[irishfan]

Dang, ya beat me to it. Craziness.

I believe there is another appeals process available. At least that's what the Sports Illustrated sports lawyer is hinting at and has an article coming out ASAP detailing it. So, once again, this story just refuses to die.

 

[zelezo vlk]

I believe there is another appeals process available. At least that's what the Sports Illustrated sports lawyer is hinting at and has an article coming out ASAP detailing it. So, once again, this story just refuses to die.

I had heard that people following this current appeal thought it likely that the suspension was reinstated, but we will see what goes from here.

 

[gkIrish]

Interesting. What were the grounds for the original suspension? That he didn't cooperate? I honestly don't remember.

 

[ACamp1900]

 

[irishfan]

I had heard that people following this current appeal thought it likely that the suspension was reinstated, but we will see what goes from here.

Ya, that was the vibe after this hearing. Not many people out there seemed to think it wouldn't get reinstated since Brady's lawyers seemed to have a terrible day and 2 of the 3 judges came in seemingly leading towards siding with Goodell (since they almost have to by law no matter what).

I don't know what the next move is. Both sides have good arguments.
We're on to the Supreme Court?

 

[koonja]

I'm not a Pats fan but I'd be upset if I was and had to give up a 1st rounder over this. That's such a blow to a team.

 

[irishfan]

Interesting. What were the grounds for the original suspension? That he didn't cooperate? I honestly don't remember.

From wiki

On May 11, 2015, the NFL announced that it suspended Tom Brady without pay for four games of the upcoming season for his involvement, based on "substantial and credible evidence" that Brady knew Patriots employees were deflating footballs and that he failed to cooperate with investigators.[61] The Patriots were also fined $1 million and lost their first round pick in the 2016 NFL draft and their fourth round pick in the 2017 NFL draft. NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent's May 11 letter to Brady stated in part: "Your actions as set forth in the report clearly constitute conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the game of professional football."[62] Troy Vincent's letter further stated: "With respect to your particular involvement, the report established that there is substantial and credible evidence to conclude you were at least generally aware of the actions of the Patriots' employees involved in the deflation of the footballs and that it was unlikely that their actions were done without your knowledge. Moreover, the report documents your failure to cooperate fully and candidly with the investigation, including by refusing to produce any relevant electronic evidence (emails, texts, etc.), despite being offered extraordinary safeguards by the investigators to protect unrelated personal information, and by providing testimony that the report concludes was not plausible and contradicted by other evidence." [62]

 

[irishfan]

I'm not a Pats fan but I'd be upset if I was and had to give up a 1st rounder over this. That's such a blow to a team.

Ya, I'm not too pleased. I know people don't like Brady, but he is pretty much a God throughout New England so having the league repeatedly brand him as a cheater (especially now that all the facts are out there) over a CBA power-struggle is a massive low blow.

Would be one thing if there was real evidence. Whole different story with their flimsy evidence and they way they tried to smear him all last summer through media leaks.

 

[ACamp1900]

Pats can always trade for Sam Bradford............

 

[NorthDakota]

 

[tussin]

THREAD....WILL...NOT....DIE

 

[wizards8507]

Cardinals, Dolphins, Texans, Bills. Patriots go 3-1 with Jimmy G and win the AFC East by Christmas.

 

[gkIrish]

THREAD....WILL...NOT....DIE

 

[IrishLion]

Cardinals, Dolphins, Texans, Bills. Patriots go 3-1 with Jimmy G and win the AFC East by Christmas.

I could see 4-0 because Patriots, but I could also see 2-2. Nice stretch to have your starter miss though.

 

[Irish#1]

Ya, that was the vibe after this hearing. Not many people out there seemed to think it wouldn't get reinstated since Brady's lawyers seemed to have a terrible day and 2 of the 3 judges came in seemingly leading towards siding with Goodell (since they almost have to by law no matter what).

I don't know what the next move is. Both sides have good arguments.
We're on to the Supreme Court?

WTF? The guy makes enough money, he doesn't need to settle on one of those hacks that advertises every afternoon on Maury and Jerry Springer.

 

[ACamp1900]

WTF? The guy makes enough money, he doesn't need to settle on one of those hacks that advertises on Maury and Jerry Springer.

Johnny Cochran couldn't have got his lying ass out of it....

 

[GoldenDome]

News breaks before NFL draft....hmmmm

Goodell will be booed, but ratings through the roof. Brilliant.

 

[ACamp1900]

News breaks before NFL draft....hmmmm

Goodell will be booed, but ratings through the roof. Brilliant.

And this is different from what would have happened regardless how???

 

[irishfan]

WTF? The guy makes enough money, he doesn't need to settle on one of those hacks that advertises on Maury and Jerry Springer.

He has one of the best lawyers in the world (Jeffrey Kessler) leading his team, but the guy didn't bring his A game last hearing according to every report from that day.

 

[Irish#1]

He has one of the best lawyers in the world (Jeffrey Kessler) leading his team, but the guy didn't bring his A game last hearing according to every report from that day.

Looks like that's open for debate.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

News breaks before NFL draft....hmmmm

Goodell will be booed, but ratings through the roof. Brilliant.

You think the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals timed their ruling to boost TV ratings...?

 

[Irish Insanity]

Interesting. What were the grounds for the original suspension? That he didn't cooperate? I honestly don't remember.

The explanation I read given by the panel was that Goodell was within his right to handle it the way he did. That's why it was overturned. Apparently this recent time thru the courts had nothing to do with him being guilty. So the appeal wasn't even about his guilt, just of Goodell used his power properly.
I hate the Pats and Brady, but can this just end.

 

[GoldenDome]

And this is different from what would have happened regardless how???

No doubt he will be booed, but the intensity and length might be record setting? I don't know...