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Irish Insanity said:
He didn't buy in to the cheating way. He had to go.
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By the way, in addition to Brady's numbers since halftime of the AFC championship which have been noted many times...no fumbles by Patriots RBs this season. I believe they are the only team in the NFL without any fumbles by a RB. So there goes that line of argument.
 
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Rhode Irish said:
By the way, in addition to Brady's numbers since halftime of the AFC championship which have been noted many times...no fumbles by Patriots RBs this season. I believe they are the only team in the NFL without any fumbles by a RB. So there goes that line of argument.
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Lewis has fumbled 2X
 
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Rhode Irish said:
By the way, in addition to Brady's numbers since halftime of the AFC championship which have been noted many times...no fumbles by Patriots RBs this season. I believe they are the only team in the NFL without any fumbles by a RB. So there goes that line of argument.
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Because 4 games is a huge sample size....
 
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irishfan said:
Must be why he couldn't crack the active roster for the Dolphins and Ravens before he got to New England.
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Rhode Irish said:
By the way, in addition to Brady's numbers since halftime of the AFC championship which have been noted many times...no fumbles by Patriots RBs this season. I believe they are the only team in the NFL without any fumbles by a RB. So there goes that line of argument.
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Most of you should know by now that when it comes to this topic often I'm not serious and I'm just trolling
 
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wizards8507 said:
As opposed to the ONE HALF that people were using as the deflated-football sample size?


Statistics are always semantics. Deshone Kizer had a touchdown pass on a fake field goal against Virginia. It's still a touchdown pass.
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Rhode was referring to the much-debated theory about the Patriots having a crazy low number of fumbles relative to the rest of the league since like 2003.

His argument was that Patriots RBs have not fumbled this year, therefore, that theory is false because they clearly can't be cheating now after deflategate.
 
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wizards8507 said:
As opposed to the ONE HALF that people were using as the deflated-football sample size?


Statistics are always semantics. Deshone Kizer had a touchdown pass on a fake field goal against Virginia. It's still a touchdown pass.
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Look I'm on your side bro. We still have to state the facts. I'm not really concerned about those 2 fumbles either. They were in the first two games of him not having played for over a year. After seeing him dodge, dip, duck, dive, and dodge the Cowgirls on his TD reception, I think he is finding his groove again :)
 
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TomHaverford said:
Colts fans on reddit, pretty hilarious actually...the fans seem to know they are going to get jail sexed by the Pats.

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most hilarious line from one of those fans... “Dion Lewis is going to skull fuck us, it is going to be exhausting” :rotflmao:
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A buddy of mine is very good friends with Dieon Lewis, always talked about how he was the real deal that wasn't able to stay healthy before. Turns out he was right.
 
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yankeeND said:
After seeing him dodge, dip, duck, dive, and dodge the Cowgirls on his TD reception, I think he is finding his groove again.
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It's really amazing having him on the same offense as Gronk. Neither guy is tackleable, but for exactly the opposite reasons.
 
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gkIrish said:
Rhode was referring to the much-debated theory about the Patriots having a crazy low number of fumbles relative to the rest of the league since like 2003.

His argument was that Patriots RBs have not fumbled this year, therefore, that theory is false because they clearly can't be cheating now after deflategate.
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That theory was debunked right away as the author cherry-picked stats to prove his point. One of the most glaring issues being that he cherry-picked when to use Special Teams fumbles in his argument and when not to use them despite the fact that the returning team has no control over the kicking team's K-balls. There were several articles trashing the original study.

The original story also was based on 2010-2014, not all the way back to 2003.

Your Guide To Deflate-gate/Ballghazi-Related Statistical Analyses | FiveThirtyEight
 
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wizards8507 said:
It's really amazing having him on the same offense as Gronk. Neither guy is tackleable, but for exactly the opposite reasons.
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I can't beleive how Bill finds these gems. We got ourselves a stud here. He and Blount are a great 1-2 punch, but you are right, Gronk makes the game so much easier for the rest of his teammates. Add in the fact we have two guys in Edelman and Lewis that are breaking Ankles worse that AI used to do it and it's almost unfair.
 
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Rhode Irish said:
By the way, in addition to Brady's numbers since halftime of the AFC championship which have been noted many times...no fumbles by Patriots RBs this season. I believe they are the only team in the NFL without any fumbles by a RB. So there goes that line of argument.
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I believe they've substituted stick 'em for the RB's.
 
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Any Colts fans know if Luck will play or not? I bet they sit him one more week. Built-in excuse for Pagano when they lose by 30 if he has Hasselbeck out there.
 
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NFL files appeal brief, says Brady “participated in a scheme to deflate game balls” | ProFootballTalk


The rest of the 59-page brief echoes many of the arguments made and conclusions reached by the NFL through various levels and types of proceedings. The NFL still believes Brady cheated; if anything, the statements have become more brazen over time, with Brady’s alleged “general awareness” of a scheme to deflate footballs now evolving into actual participation in the scheme at the AFC title game, absent any clear evidence that Brady either knew about or actually become directly involved in any such scheme.

At page 10, the NFL’s brief declares that Jim McNally “snuck the balls into a bathroom, where he proceeded to deflate their pressure.” Apart from whether there was any actual “sneaking” (given the presence of, you know, a surveillance camera and McNally’s toting of a large bag of balls into the bathroom without trying to stuff it into his pants or jacket), the evidence remains inconclusive at best that McNally removed air from the balls. If he had, the combined effect of removing air plus the operation of the Ideal Gas Law would have resulted in PSI readings dramatically lower than the readings generated at halftime by a pair of wildly inconsistent air-pressure gauges.
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Rhode Irish said:
All that has to happen to shut us up is Goodell dropping this idiotic appeal and all of you haters sending hand written apology notes to Tom Brady.
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The only thing that has been made apparent is that Goodell is an idiot, which most of us already knew. The fact that Goodell shit the bed does not mean Brady didn't know, or didn't participate. Just means an idiot couldn't prove it. Not a shocker.
 
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irishfan said:
There were so many talking heads on ESPN saying Brady should just drop his appeal when he first filed it.....haven't heard as much of that with Goodell and this appeal.
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There is this :

For Roger Goodell, it should be Roger and out on Deflategate


But the same idiot also wrote all of these:

New England Patriots QB Tom Brady Deflategate suspension Ian O'Connor
Tom Brady sacked like never before by Deflategate findings
Tom Brady's tale doesn't hold weight
Tom Brady should skip appeal of Deflategate penalty, tell truth now

Actually, after spending 30 seconds looking this stuff up, I have to ask: how does this Ian O'Connor still have a job?

As pointed out in the PFT article I quoted above, the NFL has never accounted for the fact that science indicates that the balls weren't actually tampered with, and according to this the media has never reckoned with this, either. And if YJ is an example, neither have many fans. So until they all find Jesus on this, I will keep agitating about it.
 
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