A Song of Ice and Fire (Spoilers! Only enter if you have read all books)

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While in Chicago for my sisters wedding, we had a few hungover mornings, and rewatched quite a bit of last season in anticipation of the upcoming season. Extremely excited for this.
 
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Lol @ Tyrion. "Thats what I do. I drink and I know things."
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/24/a...ratives.html?smid=tw-nytmovies&smtyp=cur&_r=0

Interesting piece about the show potentially moving into uncharted territory, with WOW yet unpublished.

Some snippets I found particularly interesting:

To some readers, the ideal screen adaptation is essentially a video illustration of the book: the thing that was in our heads, projected for us on a screen. Think of how some “Harry Potter” fans practically watched the movies with a checklist, praising them for how much of the source material they retained.

But book-based series succeed best when they choose to — or have to — declare independence. HBO’s “The Leftovers” became one of TV’s best shows in Season 2, when it exhausted the Tom Perrotta book. Syfy’s “The Magicians” took a scissors to the narrative of Lev Grossman’s fantasy novels, becoming nimble and funny in a screen-friendly way. Starz’s “Outlander” took liberties with Diana Gabaldon’s narrative but kept its spirit.
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For all its stunning set pieces — the battles of the Blackwater and Hardhome, the duel between Oberyn Martell and Gregor (the Mountain) Clegane — “Thrones” at heart is a series of conversations. Varys and Littlefinger. Jaime and Brienne. Tywin and Arya. Cersei and Lady Olenna. Tyrion and … well, anyone. In the Season 5 finale, the swordsman Daario, assessing Tyrion’s suitability for a search party, sums up his abilities: “So mainly you talk.” It’s true — and it’s why Tyrion, a disinherited dwarf, is the series’ most dangerous character.

Mr. Martin’s anvil-size books are more expansive. They include vast downloads of Westeros history and religion, outlines of genealogy and toothsome descriptions of banquets, which are vivid on the page — and should stay there. “Thrones” has lost some of the books’ majesty, but it has given them a much-needed edit, a Valyrian sword hacking through the expository clutter.

It’s been a good marriage, but it’s past time for a separation. “Thrones” slowed to a jog in Season 5, and story lines like Jaime and Bronn’s road trip to Dorne were advertisements for the fast-forward button. Even if the rest of the series follows Mr. Martin’s plans (the showrunners David Benioff and D. B. Weiss have worked in consultation with him), it may be better off for being TV first, without the anxiety of a best seller’s influence.

Which version will be authentic? Each will be authentically itself. Sometimes a story doesn’t have a single, definitive narrative. Artworks evolve, be they the variants of Shakespeare’s plays, Kanye West’s revisions to “The Life of Pablo” or George Lucas’s edits to “Star Wars.” We grasp at canonicity — Han shot first! — to deal with uncertainty. But while we can argue which version is better, no one, not even Mr. Martin, can end the argument. “A Song of Ice and Fire” is not the novelization of “Thrones,” and now “Thrones” can be more than the serialization of the novels.

I’ll watch the new “Game of Thrones” as soon as it airs (HBO is not sharing it in advance with critics). I’ll read Mr. Martin’s final books whenever they come. It doesn’t matter which gets there first, because there is no single “there.” They share the same world, but they’re two different continents, separated by a narrow sea.
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It’s been a good marriage, but it’s past time for a separation. “Thrones” slowed to a jog in Season 5, and story lines like Jaime and Bronn’s road trip to Dorne were advertisements for the fast-forward button. Even if the rest of the series follows Mr. Martin’s plans (the showrunners David Benioff and D. B. Weiss have worked in consultation with him), it may be better off for being TV first, without the anxiety of a best seller’s influence.
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How are they blaming Martin for a shitty sub plot that was never in the books. Not only was the plot boring and lead nowhere, the casting and acting was also terrible. The shows first steps out of the nest flopped, but now we should be clamoring for them to diverge further?
 
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GATTACA! said:
How are they blaming Martin for a shitty sub plot that was never in the books. Not only was the plot boring and lead nowhere, the casting and acting was also terrible. The shows first steps out of the nest flopped, but now we should be clamoring for them to diverge further?
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I understood the point to be that the show was slowing down to match the pace of the books, which caused it to make the mistake of the Dorne storyline Now that the show is resigned to passing the books, it hopefully won't make mistakes like that again, just as some of the other shows the author mentioned improved once they left the books behind.

It did bother me, though, that the author didn't acknowledge how much of Season 6 of the show will likely come from portions of the books that didn't make it into the first five seasons of the show. The author seems like he might be assuming that one season of the show = one book, which is totally wrong.

So I disagree with a fair amount of what he says, but I tend to agree with the sentiment that viewing the books and the show as separate works is the best way to appreciate them both most fully. Any other approach just ends in frustration.
 
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GATTACA! said:
How are they blaming Martin for a shitty sub plot that was never in the books. Not only was the plot boring and lead nowhere, the casting and acting was also terrible. The shows first steps out of the nest flopped, but now we should be clamoring for them to diverge further?
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Pfft. Dunno what you're complaining about. This is high art right here:

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So many things I f*cking hated about Season 5...

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Is anyone not going to watch tonight? I'm going to because I know I'll be spoiled by the Internet anyway.
 
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Is anyone not going to watch tonight? I'm going to because I know I'll be spoiled by the Internet anyway.
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I'm recording week 1, and will watch week 1 and 2 back to back next Sunday. Will do the same for the final episode. This helps me really get into a show after a long break, as well as love the finishes. It's hard to resits but I'd suggest this for anyone to try once.
 
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Interesting idea Koon, but I can't resist on this one. Too many folks will have watched if I wait a week.
 
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watching the season 5 marathon on HBO now. no way i'm waiting till next week to watch 1 and 2 lol. during the season I typically re-watch the previous week's episode every week prior to the new episode anyway.
 
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woolybug25 said:
So... This is like... Really on tonight, right?
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Right-o Wooly.
HBO2 marathon now.
Going to take a quick break from it to cut the grass.
Finding it difficult to pull away... even though it's sunny and 80 here in the ATL.
 
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Last season was really good IMO, but I can see where some would see it as a too slow.

This season is gonna be absolutely HAM tho.
 
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I've been rewatching last season all day. I've always known what's going to happen and I liked that because I got to visualize what I read. I'm not sure how I will feel about the show going forward but I guess I'm excited to see what happens.

Been waiting years to find out what happened to Jon Snow.
 
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