'16 CA WR Javon McKinley (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

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#36 Duval Kamara....I was in the same dorm as him. I remember his roommate telling me he stole his iPod when he wasn't there, uploaded his music onto it, and used it in front of him. Quality dude!
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Duval had a LOT of flaws and Everyone i knew thought he was an ass. He ran through a lot of tail and had a great freshman season, but I always expected him to get ResLife's (not me, the department) hammer.
 
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'16 CA WR Javon McKinley (Notre Dame Verbal)

'16 CA WR Javon McKinley (Notre Dame Verbal)

There were a few others like Chris Culliver and Anthony Davis.

But only one HOF in Gronk. Poor showing by ESPN that year and as a class overall


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I'm not saying that McKinley can't or won't be great - hell, he could turn out to be an NFL Hall of Fame player some day. Anquan Boldin is the main player that comes to mind for me when I'm thinking of a guy with less than ideal measurables that turned out to be a stud. Wes Welker is another. But that said - measurables still matter when identifying elite talent. It's not all there is to the game but speed and size still play a huge role in football. A player that is bigger/stronger/faster than another player will always have a higher ceiling until he proves he can't understand the nuances of his position that keeps him from being great. Sorry for this clusterfvck of a post - my son is crawling all over me.
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Not true. Or more specifically, not true enough. Sure intelligence figures into it and physical gifts come first. But there are other qualities, many of which can be summed up by asking, "how good of a football player is he?"

Every coach has seen and talked about it. Kelly made a big point about it this fall saying the guy with the fastest forty may not be able to play ball well, at all.

And the classic player example is Taylor Mays. Faster forty than prey that eludes a cheetah, at least 6'3" and all of 220, yet his most remarkable highlights were his illegal hits, and penalties. Looking at him he should have been all everything forever, at every level. Not so much. Just wasn't a football player.
 
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This ceiling talk as it relates to size, speed and strength sounds good on paper until you remember the player who established the ceiling didn't fit the model.

Jerry Rice was no combine queen.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mother of 2016 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> WR commit Javon McKinley <a href="https://t.co/EEdXHURxDD">https://t.co/EEdXHURxDD</a></p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/692008190343426048">January 26, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Yup. Sanford confirmed via Twitter.


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sounds like there might have been some doubt and the staff was nervous.
 
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Hmmm? Did he want to stay a Huskie?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good-old fashioned Signing-Day Cliff-Hanger! Wouldn’t be right without one. Great getting <a href="https://twitter.com/mcjavon">@mcjavon</a> on board! Thanks <a href="https://twitter.com/stillstrill">@stillstrill</a>!!</p>— Coach Mike Sanford (@CoachSanfordND) <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachSanfordND/status/694919170555801602">February 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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I'm late to the party, but cue the dancing gifs!

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Irishman77 said:
sounds like there might have been some doubt and the staff was nervous.
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Hmmm? Did he want to stay a Huskie?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good-old fashioned Signing-Day Cliff-Hanger! Wouldn’t be right without one. Great getting <a href="https://twitter.com/mcjavon">@mcjavon</a> on board! Thanks <a href="https://twitter.com/stillstrill">@stillstrill</a>!!</p>— Coach Mike Sanford (@CoachSanfordND) <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachSanfordND/status/694919170555801602">February 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Will eventually transfer.
 
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He'll be watching a few practices. Next time please have a link if you want people to search.

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Sorry but if you know that ISD has the info, then you most likely saw from a tweet or an article. And of you want people to go behind the pay wall for you, then providing the link is a small price to pay for the information.

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zelezo vlk said:
Sorry but if you know that ISD has the info, then you most likely saw from a tweet or an article. And of you want people to go behind the pay wall for you, then providing the link is a small price to pay for the information.

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Like this...

https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

or better yet...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Quick note on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> WR signee Javon McKinley. ($) <a href="https://t.co/eQuPzRuqDb">https://t.co/eQuPzRuqDb</a> <a href="https://t.co/MInQ73cip9">pic.twitter.com/MInQ73cip9</a></p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/705816875058360321">March 4, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Robinson (?)
Hunter
Holmes
EQ
CJ
Boykin
Stepherson

BK has shown (to this point) that he's only going to go 5-deep at WR if he can help it. But considering the depth and combining it with the uncertainty about the guys stepping in, maybe a guy like McKinley can get involved right away considering the reviews Stepherson is getting, and considering that we might see more of a committee than ever before at the position.
 
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IrishLion said:
Robinson (?)
Hunter
Holmes
EQ
CJ
Boykin
Stepherson

BK has shown (to this point) that he's only going to go 5-deep at WR if he can help it. But considering the depth and combining it with the uncertainty about the guys stepping in, maybe a guy like McKinley can get involved right away considering the reviews Stepherson is getting, and considering that we might see more of a committee than ever before at the position.
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If anyone can not only play this year but jump multiple guys up the depth chart, it's McKinley. He is so much more advanced than EQ and CJ coming out of high school. I live between OC and AZ. When in AZ, I live in the Scottsdale Saguaro school district and I do not hesitate to say this... JMc was better than Christian Kirk in high school. How it translates to college, we'll see but coming from HS, JMc is to our current receivers what Manti was to ND's LB's in '09.
 
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If anyone can not only play this year but jump multiple guys up the depth chart, it's McKinley. He is so much more advanced than EQ and CJ coming out of high school. I live between OC and AZ. When in AZ, I live in the Scottsdale Saguaro school district and I do not hesitate to say this... JMc was better than Christian Kirk in high school. How it translates to college, we'll see but coming from HS, JMc is to our current receivers what Manti was to ND's LB's in '09.
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Damn!!
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is why this dude was accepted to Notre Dame!!! Go Javon McKinley!!! Honor With Distinction! 🙌🏾🎓 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoIrish?src=hash">#GoIrish</a>🍀🍀 <a href="https://t.co/WBo0uTm0RB">pic.twitter.com/WBo0uTm0RB</a></p>— Still Strill (@stillstrill) <a href="https://twitter.com/stillstrill/status/738169221360689152">June 2, 2016</a></blockquote>
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