'17 NJ DT Dalyn Wade-Perry (Offer)

[Luckylucci]

UGA didn't have the crippling injuries Notre Dame has had. I do think BVG has to get better at somethings, but a large part of his lack of success has been lack of quality depth. When healthy, you have seen glimpses of how special the defense can be.

I do think he needs to make some stuff more simple, but at the same time some of the players have to be held accountable. You are going to give up big plays here and there in a blitzing scheme, that's just going to happen, but you shouldn't have the mental breakdowns experienced players are having.

The scheme creates very few turnovers for being so aggressive. It's almost pointless at times.

 

[Luckylucci]

I understand that BVGs defense can be complex or more complicated than what the upperclassmen were use to with Diaco. But didn't BVG have the same defense at Georgia? Wasn't his defense at Georgia rather good? If ND kids have a rather higher IQ so to speak wouldn't they be able to grasp it just like The Georgia players did?

He was playing different offense at that time. The game has changed and I don't believe he has. JMO, but his D got shredded at Auburn and I realize that was a dumpster fire situation but he hasn't done much differently. So I'd feel differently if it was progressing but it hasn't yet.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Auburn was talent deprived worse than ND has been.

Since BVG at UGA, his defense has become more sophisticated.

More sophisticated with the right personnel is a good thing. More sophisticated without one man who can play nickel corner is a disaster.

Brian VanGorder need four things to make his defense work :

• More than one guy that can play nickel, let alone dime, (as opposed to zero).
• A defensive lineman, on the nose or a 1tech that can push the line back and collapse the pocket, (as great as Day was, neither he Tillery or Cage are that, but Jones was.)
• Two (not one) corners that can play aggressive man coverage.
• Two safeties on the field that can play with their heads out of their asses, at the same time.

If BVG gets even three of these next year, and turns in a poor performance, then I will enter this conversation with a different perspective.

 

[Luckylucci]

Well since UGA and the first years with the Falcons, he's been less than successful as a DC, that's all. So the sophistaction of it hasn't helped. Just the facts. I wish it were different but it hasn't been.

We can make excuses all day long, that's what they did at Auburn until we was fired. Not saying he can't do it, just that he hasn't yet. It's actually been awhile since he successfully DC a good defense, times are changing.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Love this kid. If you like this kid, watch Marlon Tuipulotu from Oregon. Could be a heck of a combo.

I myself, and everybody on here, would/should be ecstatic with a interior tandem like that. Good to see so many high-quality DL's this year. So many to choose from.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Well since UGA and the first years with the Falcons, he's been less than successful as a DC, that's all. So the sophistaction of it hasn't helped. Just the facts. I wish it were different but it hasn't been.

We can make excuses all day long, that's what they did at Auburn until we was fired. Not saying he can't do it, just that he hasn't yet. It's actually been awhile since he successfully DC a good defense, times are changing.

Lucci, a quick search will reveal how broken and dysfunctional Auburn was under Chizik (after Cam left). I'm sorry, BVG may very well have fallen off since his time at UGA, but I can assure you that there was nothing he could've done to fix that mess.

Can't field a good defense when the players have no faith or trust in the guy in charge (that being Chizik).

I'd say, at this point, we just don't have enough to say one or another. Since UGA, BVG's only 3 college seasons as a DC, he's come across three major problems out of his control. Chizik's program meltdown at Auburn, and the two injury eviscerated seasons. Doesn't excuse some of the questionable play calls he's made, but the best in the business seldom overcome personnel hits of that magnitude. It's just reality.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

The scheme creates very few turnovers for being so aggressive. It's almost pointless at times.

Not to sidetrack the thread, but this is probably the biggest frustration of the BVG era for me.

I don't have a problem with BVG or the scheme, as he has been limited in what he can do with various injuries the last two years.

When Drue Tranquill has been on the field, totally different defense on 3rd down. You have someone that can bring pressure, but also cover. I don't know whether to count him as a LB, Nickel/Dime or S when he is on the field in third down, but good things happen haha.

In 2014, Notre Dame was solid when they have Matthias Farley in the nickel. He was able to play the run, but also showed the ability to play in space. The nickel masks some of Farley's weaknesses in terms of ability to go vertical with receivers.

The problem in 2014 was the lack of consistent safety play in my opinion.

That gets me to 2014. Notre Dame moved Farley out of the nickel, because of lack of depth and production at the safety spot. When Tranquill/Crawford got hurt, Notre Dame didn't have a nickel and BVG tried to get cute with Russell there.

When Russell didn't work out, ND went to a form of a base defense and started to drop Day/Okwara/Trumbetti more and more. I don't think it's bc BVG thinks he was smart at dropping DL into coverage, but more a product of not having a nickel, so he tried to guess and catch teams with zone blitzes.

Obviously, Notre Dame has better depth in the secondary after NSD and you can see the type of kid BVG really wants in his system. He wants guys at rush end that can drop, but also have skill in rushing the passer. I would almost say he is recruiting the ever famous "Diaco DOG" position.

 

[IrishLion]

I would almost say he is recruiting the ever famous "Diaco DOG" position.

Do you think Okwara, Hayes and Jamir Jones are those types of guys? The only of that group that I know could both rush and cover is Hayes, but a lot of people of debated where Jamir will play as a jumbo athlete, and I don't know much about Okwara2.0's skillset.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Not to sidetrack the thread, but this is probably the biggest frustration of the BVG era for me.

I don't have a problem with BVG or the scheme, as he has been limited in what he can do with various injuries the last two years.

When Drue Tranquill has been on the field, totally different defense on 3rd down. You have someone that can bring pressure, but also cover. I don't know whether to count him as a LB, Nickel/Dime or S when he is on the field in third down, but good things happen haha.

In 2014, Notre Dame was solid when they have Matthias Farley in the nickel. He was able to play the run, but also showed the ability to play in space. The nickel masks some of Farley's weaknesses in terms of ability to go vertical with receivers.

The problem in 2014 was the lack of consistent safety play in my opinion.

That gets me to 2014. Notre Dame moved Farley out of the nickel, because of lack of depth and production at the safety spot. When Tranquill/Crawford got hurt, Notre Dame didn't have a nickel and BVG tried to get cute with Russell there.

When Russell didn't work out, ND went to a form of a base defense and started to drop Day/Okwara/Trumbetti more and more. I don't think it's bc BVG thinks he was smart at dropping DL into coverage, but more a product of not having a nickel, so he tried to guess and catch teams with zone blitzes.

Obviously, Notre Dame has better depth in the secondary after NSD and you can see the type of kid BVG really wants in his system. He wants guys at rush end that can drop, but also have skill in rushing the passer. I would almost say he is recruiting the ever famous "Diaco DOG" position.

I really want this to be true so I can remain hopeful about our chances of fielding a top-25 defense to complement our offense.

Diaco has certainly been stocking up on secondary players and we have been limited so let's hope Crawford stays healthy, Luke takes a step forward and we find a way to put two quality safeties on the field. (and hopefully we find another quality corner, I'm looking at you Watkins, Coleman, Butler, White, and incoming freshman class).

 

[Big23Head]

Scout: he cannot make Junior Day but says ND is in a very good sport with him. Looking to get back at some point

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Scout: he cannot make Junior Day but says ND is in a very good sport with him. Looking to get back at some point

Are they in football? Or a different sport like fencing?

 

[connor_in]

Scout: he cannot make Junior Day but says ND is in a very good spork with him. Looking to get back at some point

FIFY

 

[BobbyMac]

Chose to attend OSU's Spring game.

He does know they have two of the top 6 DT's in '17 committed... right?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">3-star DT Dalyn Wade-Perry is fired up about Saturday’s Spring Game visit to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OhioState?src=hash">#OhioState</a> <a href="https://t.co/V3Zghoih9e">https://t.co/V3Zghoih9e</a> VIP <a href="https://t.co/zjsjTb70Pj">pic.twitter.com/zjsjTb70Pj</a></p>— Tom Loy (@TomLoy247) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomLoy247/status/720068011680354304">April 13, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Ugh


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[Crazy Balki]

How can this be!? He's a 3-star! We always get those.

 

[Irish YJ]

Perhaps he doesn't want to play ball or school.

Chose to attend OSU's Spring game.

He does know they have two of the top 6 DT's in '17 committed... right?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">3-star DT Dalyn Wade-Perry is fired up about Saturday’s Spring Game visit to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OhioState?src=hash">#OhioState</a> <a href="https://t.co/V3Zghoih9e">https://t.co/V3Zghoih9e</a> VIP <a href="https://t.co/zjsjTb70Pj">pic.twitter.com/zjsjTb70Pj</a></p>— Tom Loy (@TomLoy247) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomLoy247/status/720068011680354304">April 13, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Irish#1]

The silver tongue devil at work.

 

[IrishLion]

OSU's already got two DT's committed, and they lead for two others that ND is also after... es no bueno.

 

[koonja]

We need another interior DL this class. We got one which is great, but I think we missed out on taking any last year.

 

[BobbyMac]

Perhaps he doesn't want to play ball or school.

Has a Stanford offer. According to David Shaw (not Brian Shaw) he's the one kid in the state they can recruit.

 

[Big23Head]

Visiting ND June 23

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Big Ten Visits Past, Pac-12, ND Future For DT: SPARTA, N.J. -- Defensive tackle Dalyn Wade-Perry made visits ... <a href="https://t.co/f8zMU8eYlO">https://t.co/f8zMU8eYlO</a></p>— FightOnState.com (@FightOnState) <a href="https://twitter.com/FightOnState/status/725985060780810240">April 29, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[GBdomer]

Stanford/ND battle


247

 

[BobbyMac]

Stanford/ND battle


247

I have no idea where you're getting your info. Haven't seen anything lately that would suggest he has any interest in the Irish.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2017 NJ DL Dalyn Wade-Perry says he'll be at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> in June. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheOpeningNJ?src=hash">#TheOpeningNJ</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NiceShirt?src=hash">#NiceShirt</a> <a href="https://t.co/VCdzCmX5sS">pic.twitter.com/VCdzCmX5sS</a></p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/726794335145054208">May 1, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Big23Head]

He measured in at 6-foot-3, 335 pounds, and ran 5.85 seconds in the 40-yard dash.

Scout: No. 29 DT Dalyn Wade-Perry in action at The Opening NY/NJ

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[zelezo vlk]

ISD thinks that ND leads, but he still needs to visit Stanford in 2 weeks and then ND next month. Expected to make his decision in August

 

[NDPhilly]

His offer list is crazy good:

Alabama
Ohio State
Notre Dame
Stanford
Ped State
Florida State
Florida
Michigan
Michigan State
Miami
Nebraska
Ole Miss
UCLA
etc....

but he's only the composite #357 player. Weird. Would be an awesome pickup regardless.

 

[Luckylucci]

If we were to have him and Hinish on board before the season, I'd feel pretty darn good about the DT poisition.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

If we were to have him and Hinish on board before the season, I'd feel pretty darn good about the DT poisition.

I second that emotion!

 

[Irishman77]

id pass on this one... anyone know if Pete mokawah will ever see the field? He looked far superior in HS imho. I think Rees could side step him. Best for him to go to alabama and start hittin the deer antler spray

Peter Mokwuah Senior Highlights - Peter Mokwuah highlights - Hudl

 

[Big23Head]

Scout: visiting Stanford this weekend. ND is pushing hard for him and visited this week. He's starting to focus on schools pushing hard (ND, OSU, PSU, Stanford)