'13 PA OT Mike McGlinchey (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

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Grahambo said:
Would prefer Mike to stay at his current position. The difference between LT and RT is not what it once was thought to be.
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It is to Mike's checkbook and that should be taken into consideration, he's earned it. Regardless of who the QB is, he'll see more elite DE's as a LT even if MZ's the QB. I got the impression he's going to be there and that he wants to be there at the Fiesta Bowl.
 
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Veritate Duce Progredi said:
He would only move to the left if Kizer won the QB race, yes?
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Understand what you are saying, but Kelly repeatedly states that Zaire will be a left-handed quarterback, <ND will be>running a right handed offense.
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koonja said:
Bars will likely be starting anyways at Guard if Elmer quits.

McGlichey, Nelson, Mustipher/Hoge, Bars, Bivin.

I hope Bars is the same after the injury. A broken foot for a big man is no joke, and it happened real late in the year. Wonder how he's progressing.
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Koon, I have no reason to believe they would waste Bars inside again. He is a tackle. I would most likely expect to see him as sixth-man back up for both tackles, if he doesn't start. But, more and more people that know seem to think he would win the starting job on the other side from Big Mike.
 
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Bogtrotter07 said:
Understand what you are saying, but Kelly repeatedly states that Zaire will be a left-handed quarterback, running a right handed offense.
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You need your most consistent and reliable pass blocker on the blind side. The disparity between salaries in RT and LT are tremendous, most likely because there are not that many left handed starting QB's in the league. If McGlinchey is the teams best pass blocker, he damn well better be on the quarterbacks blindside.
 
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GoldenDome said:
You need your most consistent and reliable pass blocker on the blind side. The disparity between salaries in RT and LT are tremendous, most likely because there are not that many left handed starting QB's in the league. If McGlinchey is the teams best pass blocker, he damn well better be on the quarterbacks blindside.
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Serious question:

Let's say SC plays the whole season against right handed QB's and their All American DE lines up across from the LT in those games. What happens when ND comes to LA and Malik is the starter? Will their All American DE shift line up above the RT for that game to get at his blind spot?
 
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Serious question:

Let's say SC plays the whole season against right handed QB's and their All American DE lines up across from the LT in those games. What happens when ND comes to LA and Malik is the starter? Will their All American DE shift line up above the RT for that game to get at his blind spot?
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I think what Kelly, Denbrock, and Sanford have said, in effect, is that Zaire's blind spot stays on his left hand side.

I don't understand it altogether either. Because a player naturally turns to face forward with his non-throwing arm.

But they have repeatedly stated that you don't flip tackles because you are staying with a "right-handed offense."
 
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NDCrusader said:
Serious question:

Let's say SC plays the whole season against right handed QB's and their All American DE lines up across from the LT in those games. What happens when ND comes to LA and Malik is the starter? Will their All American DE shift line up above the RT for that game to get at his blind spot?
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Generally speaking, the side of the ball defensive ends are lined up on is dictated by offensive formation.
 
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I will be quite surprised if McGlinchey isn't at LT regardless of who the QB is.
 
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NDCrusader said:
Serious question:

Let's say SC plays the whole season against right handed QB's and their All American DE lines up across from the LT in those games. What happens when ND comes to LA and Malik is the starter? Will their All American DE shift line up above the RT for that game to get at his blind spot?
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As stated, in most cases offense dictates how the defense can line up. This of course also depends on personnel of the defense and their flexibility.

It is the offense's responsibility to not allow the defense to do what is best and limit disruption.
 
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'13 PA OT Mike McGlinchey (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

Advanced statistics have shown the RT position is no less important then the LT position.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/04/29/examining-pressure-are-left-tackles-overvalued/2/


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There's a lot to digest here, but it can be summed up rather quickly. The right tackle should no longer be viewed as the athletic inferior to the left tackle and teams should change their team-building strategy to make this happen. Today’s passing NFL makes it a necessity to have two competent pass protectors on the edge and when scouting players, if a tackle is deemed to not be good enough to play left tackle, well you’re better off just putting him at guard rather than exploiting him at right tackle.
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While it's true that Right tackles are highly valued, the left tackles still make the most money.
 
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In college, I honestly dont think it matters as far as LT/RT. Sure, you def want to protect the QB's blindside, but why was Stanley LT to start 2015 with Zaire and you had a RT in McGlinchey that had started 1 game in his career.

I think if Notre Dame was running a more pro-style offense, it might come into play, but in BK's offense vs college defense it's fine.
 
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IrishTP said:
In college, I honestly dont think it matters as far as LT/RT. Sure, you def want to protect the QB's blindside, but why was Stanley LT to start 2015 with Zaire and you had a RT in McGlinchey that had started 1 game in his career.

I think if Notre Dame was running a more pro-style offense, it might come into play, but in BK's offense vs college defense it's fine.
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Perception is why Stanley was moved but as advanced statistics show, your RT needs to be as good as your LT.

My point is that don't move Mike just to move him because you think he's more valuable on the left side. He's been on the right for awhile now so just leave him there. There are others who are good enough to fill in at LT.
 
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So do we all think this is Big Mike's last year?

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Grahambo said:
Perception is why Stanley was moved but as advanced statistics show, your RT needs to be as good as your LT.

My point is that don't move Mike just to move him because you think he's more valuable on the left side. He's been on the right for awhile now so just leave him there. There are others who are good enough to fill in at LT.
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I think the move to LT is inevitable and I'm fine with it. Big Mike was great last year, so if this move allows him to make more money come draft time, done.

I agree that there's certainly talent behind Mike, but it's hard to say there's players ready to step in that are proven. Bars seemed most likely because of accolades he's received from CBK, AND the fact that he has on field experience. Maybe Bars and Bivin battle it out through the fall? Competition breads excellence. If Bars is healthy, that will be a good battle as will the battle for center.
 
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zelezo vlk said:
So do we all think this is Big Mike's last year?

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I could very well see that. If Stanley has a good rookie season, then there certainly is a precedent being set with him and Martin, that ND lineman are getting prepared well for the pro game. If Mike has a good year (oh... and he will), then the precedent paired with his measurables (6'.7 1/2", 310#) make it a no brainer.

I think a good year earns him a high first round grade.
 
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woolybug25 said:
I could very well see that. If Stanley has a good rookie season, then there certainly is a precedent being set with him and Martin, that ND lineman are getting prepared well for the pro game. If Mike has a good year (oh... and he will), then the precedent paired with his measurables (6'.7 1/2", 310#) make it a no brainer.

I think a good year earns him a high first round grade.
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This is what I'm thinking. That way if Elmer is gone, you have Big Mike switch to the left and that way the right side grows together. Or is that too much inexperience on the right side?

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I could very well see that. If Stanley has a good rookie season, then there certainly is a precedent being set with him and Martin, that ND lineman are getting prepared well for the pro game. If Mike has a good year (oh... and he will), then the precedent paired with his measurables (6'.7 1/2", 310#) make it a no brainer.

I think a good year earns him a high first round grade.
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And remember, he is fast. Fast in general, blinding by a lineman's standards. That will translate to gotta' have for any NFL team that pulls, or traps a lot, as well as pass protection against a pass rush specialist.
 
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Bogtrotter07 said:
And remember, he is fast. Fast in general, blinding by a lineman's standards. That will translate to gotta' have for any NFL team that pulls, or traps a lot, as well as pass protection against a pass rush specialist.
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Kind of like a Lane Johnson but more physically ready?

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Sorry guys, just trying to plug ISD since they get my money and I think they're the best in the biz.
 
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Sorry guys, just trying to plug ISD since they get my money and I think they're the best in the biz.
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Agreed, I knew it was brought up but not officially announced by Nelson also brought it up last night.
 
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