'16 GA ATH Demetris Robertson (Georgia Transfer)

[NDdomer2]

all I can think of is if he keeps re-taking it, he must be pretty damn close to getting the score he needs to get in.

I'm thinking opposite and He thinks he has a better chance to try his luck when the SAT changes their scoring system back to the 1600 pt model.

 

[#1rish]

Starting to think we should put the ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ next to his name ala Isaiah McKenzie

 

[PANDFAN]

Are we sure he is a go for ND admissions?

yes--per 247

I'd be shocked if the kid did all of this to get admitted to Stanford only to turn them down.

all I can think of is if he keeps re-taking it, he must be pretty damn close to getting the score he needs to get in.

this is the theory that he had to have at least improved his score somewhat...however that would only be the first part of their admission process

 

[Bubbles]

I'd be shocked if the kid did all of this to get admitted to Stanford only to turn them down.

could be he just wants to prove to himself that he can do it.

 

[IrishLax]

That's a shame, really thought Stanford would have a tough time stringing him along and he'd make a decision. Guess I underestimated David Shaw.

 

[greyhammer90]

per 247---he is going to retake sat once again in march....this is going to drag out for a while

I guess I'll come back in March.

 

[IrishLax]

This is truly just absurd to follow at this point. Stanford is either lying to a kid they know can't get in and stringing him along specifically to ensure he doesn't go to a rival OR they're selling their soul on admissions and breaking every protocol they have letting a kid apply MONTHS after their deadline. Either way, not a good look for a school that constantly espouses being "above" college football and "not compromising their integrity or academics." What a sham.

 

[drake29]

Damn this kid really doesn't want to go to ND. Why not just come out and say it?

What's wrong with a kid trying his hardest to do what he wants. If ND is his fallback that's still pretty damned good. Pretty sure he can get a good education at UGA or Bama if his wants as well. If he's that serious about Stanford you have to believe he won't be the typical jock that allows himself to be funneled into getting a meaningless degree.

 

[rtrn2glory]

i hope he's worth the headache at the end of the day.

 

[drake29]

This is truly just absurd to follow at this point. Stanford is either lying to a kid they know can't get in and stringing him along specifically to ensure he doesn't go to a rival OR they're selling their soul on admissions and breaking every protocol they have letting a kid apply MONTHS after their deadline. Either way, not a good look for a school that constantly espouses being "above" college football and "not compromising their integrity or academics." What a sham.

At what point do they have to tell him 'no' and he's no longer a take for ND? I've not been as 'with it' lately on his situation because I've been busy with work - I just don't know how Stanford keeps him from ND if Stanford is not an option in a couple of weeks.

 

[drake29]

i hope he's worth the headache at the end of the day.

What headache? All the staff has to do is call and check on him when they can and wait for a decision. They recruit almost year round now. He's the number 1 receiver in the call. Why wouldn't you make that call?

 

[irishfan]

This is truly just absurd to follow at this point. Stanford is either lying to a kid they know can't get in and stringing him along specifically to ensure he doesn't go to a rival OR they're selling their soul on admissions and breaking every protocol they have letting a kid apply MONTHS after their deadline. Either way, not a good look for a school that constantly espouses being "above" college football and "not compromising their integrity or academics." What a sham.

What we did allowing Tee to EE before he was fully qualified (if that is the correct story) was much worse IMO. And I wouldn't say ND "sold their soul" or that the situation was a "sham."

Also, is this really much different than essentially "wait-listing" the kid? They have his full transcripts. If they're not just stringing him along, it's just a simple yes or no in March. I believe normal high school students can re-take the SAT if they're waitlisted and then send those off to admissions to boost their case. Plus, it's not like he couldn't have committed elsewhere on NSD if he wanted.

I just don't see Stanford as the bad guy here if they're truly still interested in the kid. If he couldn't qualify for ND with his SAT, we'd be praising ND if they let him re-take in March and would be doubly praising Robertson for wanting to re-take the test and not take the easy route and pick an SEC school on NSD.

This is a weird and annoying recruitment to follow, but I'm not really seeing a bad guy anywhere here personally.

 

[phgreek]

I don't know...I wanted to get an acceptance letter from a certain dental school, even though I'd decided I was going somewhere else. When asked to provide more info I did...because I wanted the acceptance. For me I wanted to prove I could get in, to myself. I can't say this is the same thing for Drob...but I would understand if it were.

More time is fine...

 

[koonja]

Is this kid waiting for some pharmaceutical company to invent the limitless pill or what? Sheesh. Anyone see a yellow flag yet or am I still on that lonely island?

 

[NDdomer2]

This is truly just absurd to follow at this point. Stanford is either lying to a kid they know can't get in and stringing him along specifically to ensure he doesn't go to a rival OR they're selling their soul on admissions and breaking every protocol they have letting a kid apply MONTHS after their deadline. Either way, not a good look for a school that constantly espouses being "above" college football and "not compromising their integrity or academics." What a sham.

Even if all this is true, what backlash would they receive? Not a ncaa violation and its not worthy of some Espn e60 investigation.

 

[PANDFAN]

Is this kid waiting for some pharmaceutical company to invent the limitless pill or what? Sheesh. Anyone see a yellow flag yet or am I still on that lonely island?

i think you mean a red flag??

 

[koonja]

i think you mean a red flag??

I don't want to say he's a downright clown and not worth the time. But I'm skeptical. Take your time, it's on your side, but making this decision with already having all of the information (you're not getting into Stanford, deal with it) and not being able to make a move makes me concerned.

Burn your damn boat, don't look back, and go to the league in 3 years. Ain't no such things as half way crooks.

 

[gkIrish]

Remember when I suggested giving him an ultimatum?

Looks like a great idea at this point.

 

[NDShark]

Remember, from his POV, there is absolutely no reason to rush anything. He clearly doesn't have all information he requires to make a decision (e.g. Stanford acceptance / visit, perhaps a visit to UGA or GT?). Sounds like we're still in the driver's seat. Sucks from a fan's perspective, but that's recruiting. I'm stoked we still have a damn good chance at landing the fellow!

 

[koonja]

Watch everything lead to us being the leader in March. He's ready to decide. Younger St. Brown chooses Irish, Demetris then backs off and takes 8 more visits and ends up the next 21 year old freshman star WR at Bama.

Book it.

 

[gkIrish]

Kid is willingly taking the SAT for at least the 3rd time to try and get into a school he has never visited. Anyone who thinks he will be happy at ND after all this is over needs a sanity check.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Kid is willingly taking the SAT for at least the 3rd time to try and get into a school he has never visited. Anyone who thinks he will be happy at ND after all this is over needs a sanity check.

That would change with an ultimatum?

 

[IrishLax]

Even if all this is true, what backlash would they receive? Not a ncaa violation and its not worthy of some Espn e60 investigation.

Absolutely none, it just makes them hypocrites of the highest order.

 

[IrishGlory]

This is truly just absurd to follow at this point. Stanford is either lying to a kid they know can't get in and stringing him along specifically to ensure he doesn't go to a rival OR they're selling their soul on admissions and breaking every protocol they have letting a kid apply MONTHS after their deadline. Either way, not a good look for a school that constantly espouses being "above" college football and "not compromising their integrity or academics." What a sham.

This crossed my mind for a hot second as well.

 

[gkIrish]

That would change with an ultimatum?

No, it wouldn't. The statements are mutually exclusive.

1) An ultimatum was probably a good idea in retrospect if the goal was to get him to sign with ND.

2) Regardless of when he signs, I don't think he will ever be happy at ND.

 

[NDohio]

Kid is willingly taking the SAT for at least the 3rd time to try and get into a school he has never visited. Anyone who thinks he will be happy at ND after all this is over needs a sanity check.

So you are saying that no school should take him if he still doesn't get into Stanford? Every school will be his second choice at best.

I think he can find happiness wherever he ends up if Stanford is not an option.

 

[phork]

Toot toot!

 

[dad4aa]

Kid is willingly taking the SAT for at least the 3rd time to try and get into a school he has never visited. Anyone who thinks he will be happy at ND after all this is over needs a sanity check.

This is the strangest part to me. I could see trying again if he had been on campus and fell in love with it and KNOWS that is where he wants to go.

 

[gkIrish]

So you are saying that no school should take him if he still doesn't get into Stanford? Every school will be his second choice at best.

I think he can find happiness wherever he ends up if Stanford is not an option.

I'm saying he is a huge transfer risk if he were ever to get the grades during college to transfer to Stanford. Does ND want to develop him for one year only to see him go to Stanford and light us up for 2-3 years after that?

 

[koonja]

Why can't/doesn't he visit? Does Stanford only allow you to visit if you're accepted? That cannot be, since most don't know until ~ Novemberish.

Why isn't he OVing there as we speak?