'14 TN OT Alex Bars (Notre Dame Signee)

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I'll be you any amount of Vbucks you want that he doesn't play OT for ND or in the NFL.

Oh I'm not saying he will, and I actually hope he doesn't. My point was that you have to be one hell of an OT to hold your spot from a 5* kid with that kind of a frame. I don't see puting Nelson at OG as an easy decision
 

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Oh I'm not saying he will, and I actually hope he doesn't. My point was that you have to be one hell of an OT to hold your spot from a 5* kid with that kind of a frame. I don't see puting Nelson at OG as an easy decision

For me, it goes back to the Kelly philosophy of getting the best 5 guys out there. Bars and McGlinchey definitely need to be out there, and neither can play Guard, but Nelson can. Therefore Nelson to G is ideal since he can play both.
 

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What's a good Wingspan for OT's 6-10's pretty big.

No doubt about it, thats a very high level wingspan but your wingspan doesn't kick step to the outside. Long limbs, meaning legs as well, help you cover ground quicker from edge rushers. There is a reason that OT's are generally 6'6+ and its not just because of wingspan. I completely think Nelson could play OT but his best position and the one that he'll play is OG.
 

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Maybe this [remembering that typical OLines don't actually PLAY two-deep unless there are injuries]:

Stanley//Nelson//NMart//Elmer//McGlinchey, plus Bars {first Tackle} and Bivin {first interior}, --- possibly Hegarty {second Center if he's on the team --- I don't know what's going to go on with "grad students". My guess is that Matt will be with us, as Kelly likes vets over rooks, and so will be next-man-in at Center --- but I'd like to see the final roster in the Spring.}

The love affair with Montelus reminds me at this early stage of similar eye-test love affairs on IE in the past [ex. Filer, Moore, Shumate, Daniels to a degree, GAIII, Bryant to a degree, et al]. Some of those never really worked out, particularly as to the over-the-top speculations-as-fact of their admirers. Some sort-of worked out. Some have eligibility to get-it-right. Max Redfield and Nyles Morgan are my two favorite prayers-for-players to get-it-right immediately. John Montelus is currently for me in this eye-test-but-little-real-coaching-praise cohort. He SEEMS an ideal inner mauler --- maybe even a DT --- but I'll wait for Spring.
 

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What's a good Wingspan for OT's 6-10's pretty big.

That's borderline freakish. Something like 90% of people's wingspan is within an inch of their height.

What is intriguing to me now are the workout videos where he was killing it on the bench. If he has a 6-10 wingspan, he has some insanely long sleeves. Having long arms and benching doesn't mix well.

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Maybe this [remembering that typical OLines don't actually PLAY two-deep unless there are injuries]:

Stanley//Nelson//NMart//Elmer//McGlinchey, plus Bars {first Tackle} and Bivin {first interior}, --- possibly Hegarty {second Center if he's on the team --- I don't know what's going to go on with "grad students". My guess is that Matt will be with us, as Kelly likes vets over rooks, and so will be next-man-in at Center --- but I'd like to see the final roster in the Spring.}

The love affair with Montelus reminds me at this early stage of similar eye-test love affairs on IE in the past [ex. Filer, Moore, Shumate, Daniels to a degree, GAIII, Bryant to a degree, et al]. Some of those never really worked out, particularly as to the over-the-top speculations-as-fact of their admirers. Some sort-of worked out. Some have eligibility to get-it-right. Max Redfield and Nyles Morgan are my two favorite prayers-for-players to get-it-right immediately. John Montelus is currently for me in this eye-test-but-little-real-coaching-praise cohort. He SEEMS an ideal inner mauler --- maybe even a DT --- but I'll wait for Spring.

I was suggesting to move Montelus to NG back when Nix was on his way out, but that was before we switched to the 4-3. There really hasn't been any love affair with Montelus at all. He had injury problems early and right now, he's just stuck behind a ton of depth. It's not that he's bad, he probably could jump in and be a fantastic lineman for ND, but when you're stuck behind what ND currently has, it's easy to get lost in the mix.
 

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Maybe this [remembering that typical OLines don't actually PLAY two-deep unless there are injuries]:

Stanley//Nelson//NMart//Elmer//McGlinchey, plus Bars {first Tackle} and Bivin {first interior}, --- possibly Hegarty {second Center if he's on the team --- I don't know what's going to go on with "grad students". My guess is that Matt will be with us, as Kelly likes vets over rooks, and so will be next-man-in at Center --- but I'd like to see the final roster in the Spring.}

The love affair with Montelus reminds me at this early stage of similar eye-test love affairs on IE in the past [ex. Filer, Moore, Shumate, Daniels to a degree, GAIII, Bryant to a degree, et al]. Some of those never really worked out, particularly as to the over-the-top speculations-as-fact of their admirers. Some sort-of worked out. Some have eligibility to get-it-right. Max Redfield and Nyles Morgan are my two favorite prayers-for-players to get-it-right immediately. John Montelus is currently for me in this eye-test-but-little-real-coaching-praise cohort. He SEEMS an ideal inner mauler --- maybe even a DT --- but I'll wait for Spring.

Damn, I really hope so. We need them both to "get it". We can't afford anyone to not "get it" back there. O-line not so much...
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alex Bars out for the season, fractured ankle, surgery set for this afternoon.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/655786377183760384">October 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alex Bars out for the season, fractured ankle, surgery set for this afternoon.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/655786377183760384">October 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Damn another hit to the depth of this team. Whose the 1st next man in on the O-line now? Bivin?

Really helps with the bye to get Nelson hopefully back to fully healthy for the down stretch.
 
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And the hits keep coming, out for the season? Get healthy!!
 

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At least it's not a knee. Hopefully surgery and rehab go seemlessly and he's ready for spring ball.
 

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Question fellas.

Not sure how much PT he got this year with Nelson starting and close games. If he hasnt played much and this just happened in first 1/2 of the season, can he get a medical redshirt since he already used his normal redshirt?
 

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Question fellas.

Not sure how much PT he got this year with Nelson starting and close games. If he hasnt played much and this just happened in first 1/2 of the season, can he get a medical redshirt since he already used his normal redshirt?

He would need to hurt next year or year after for the season to qualify for a medical redshirt.
 

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Question fellas.

Not sure how much PT he got this year with Nelson starting and close games. If he hasnt played much and this just happened in first 1/2 of the season, can he get a medical redshirt since he already used his normal redshirt?

Sadly, no:

In team sports, the injury or illness occurs when the student-athlete has not participated in more than three contests or dates of competition (whichever is applicable to that sport) or 30 percent (whichever number is greater) of the institution's scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition in his or her sport.

Bars has played in all but the UVA game, according to the (sometimes inaccurate) ND football website participation tracker.

Hopefully he can be ready for spring ball!
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">First rainbow caught while fishing the St Joes <a href="https://t.co/6XT86ydp3H">pic.twitter.com/6XT86ydp3H</a></p>— Alex Bars (@AlexBars_) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexBars_/status/687770105816694786">January 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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I'm sure wooly could give Alex some pointers.
 

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I'm sure wooly could give Alex some pointers.

The first which would obviously be... drop the 'S' Alex, it's just St. Joe


Thought for sure this was a... "had a 2nd and 3rd rod installed because the foot was facing backwards" post.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">First rainbow caught while fishing the St Joes <a href="https://t.co/6XT86ydp3H">pic.twitter.com/6XT86ydp3H</a></p>— Alex Bars (@AlexBars_) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexBars_/status/687770105816694786">January 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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I'm sure wooly could give Alex some pointers.

I hope he didn't eat that, I wouldn't eat anything that comes out of that river. I had a friend in high school who went swimming in it and he came out with a nasty rash...
 
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