'16 OH OT Tommy Kraemer (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

[NDVirginia19]

But to be fair Vanderdoesnt has been doing very well for himself at UCLA... Much to our chagrin

 

[Ironman8]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tommy Kramer had a good day at OT for East. <a href="https://twitter.com/ArmyAllAmerican">@ArmyAllAmerican</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ChadCarson247">@ChadCarson247</a> <a href="https://t.co/grJLxC6Eeu">pic.twitter.com/grJLxC6Eeu</a></p>— Rusty Mansell (@Mansell247) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mansell247/status/684095512824266752">January 4, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[ab2cmiller]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> commit Tommy Kraemer getting some work at center <a href="https://t.co/3h85nTi2eV">pic.twitter.com/3h85nTi2eV</a></p>— Steve Hare (@share24) <a href="https://twitter.com/share24/status/684038679224963072">January 4, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[NDVirginia19]

Does anyone have any idea how Hoge has been in practices this year?

 

[Domina Nostra]

Does anyone have any idea how Hoge has been in practices this year?

I've heard he's put on weight much faster than some thought he would and I think he was the scout team offenseive player of the year.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Does anyone have any idea how Hoge has been in practices this year?

Great. Notre Dame loves his development and there I think you could see him move to guard if Mustipher is as good as they think to get the best five/six in the rotation.

 

[arrowryan]

Great. Notre Dame loves his development and there I think you could see him move to guard if Mustipher is as good as they think to get the best five/six in the rotation.

He'd force Nelson or Elmer to the bench?

 

[GBdomer]

Would anybody else not mind seeing a change at RG? Maybe flip McGlinchey to LT and Bars to RT? But then who would take Elmers spot? Probably won't happen but just curious on others thought of flipping McGlinchey and maybe replacing Elmer? I think Elmer is solid but not as great as many predicted he would be

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

Would anybody else not mind seeing a change at RG? Maybe flip McGlinchey to LT and Bars to RT? But then who would take Elmers spot? Probably won't happen but just curious on others thought of flipping McGlinchey and maybe replacing Elmer? I think Elmer is solid but not as great as many predicted he would be

Depends. Who do you start at C next year? I think Hoge should get the job. But if he doesn't move Hoge to Guard?

 

[arrowryan]

Depends. Who do you start at C next year? I think Hoge should get the job. But if he doesn't move Hoge to Guard?

Mustipher

 

[GBdomer]

Mustipher

It will come down to Mustipher and Hoge and IMO while most have Mustipher pegged for the job I think it could be a battle that goes into fall camp

 

[Old Man Mike]

Elmer graded out at 98.4% --- second on the line to McGlinchey.

Boggles me as to what some people want.

As to next year's OLine and rotation: {{opinion based on play plus coaches commentaries}}
LT: Bars or McGlinchey starts
LG: Nelson starts
C: Mustipher or Hoge or Bivin starts [all have gotten regular praise, and Bivin showed out well at center in the HS All-star game, having athleticism and smarts --- just like they're trying Big Tommy now.]
RG: Elmer Starts
RT: McGlinchey or Bars starts.

Idealized three men backing up the five starters: The two potential centers who don't win the Center competition, plus McGovern.

The "other two" rotational OLinemen who are not first choices for "next man in": ? who knows, but there are few choices, since it won't be a freshman, even Kraemer, and it won't be Montelus, who seems not to fit. {I have an insane thought of using Montelus as an H-Back a la Luatua, blocking Fridge-like at the goal-line.}

 

[zelezo vlk]

Would anybody else not mind seeing a change at RG? Maybe flip McGlinchey to LT and Bars to RT? But then who would take Elmers spot? Probably won't happen but just curious on others thought of flipping McGlinchey and maybe replacing Elmer? I think Elmer is solid but not as great as many predicted he would be

No offense GB, but if you mean by this that Elmer would be benched then you clearly don't know Coach Kelly or Hiestand. A true senior is not going to be benched.

Edit: if you did not mean this, then pardon me.

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[NDVirginia19]

With the embarrassment or riches we have of talented, huge offensive linemen, why haven't we tried something a la Stanford with a jumbo goal line set? once we are 5 yards within the goal line, send out 7 Offensive linemen, a TE and Luatua in the backfield, and Josh Adams in the backfield.

 

[Irish YJ]

With the embarrassment or riches we have of talented, huge offensive linemen, why haven't we tried something a la Stanford with a jumbo goal line set? once we are 5 yards within the goal line, send out 7 Offensive linemen, a TE and Luatua in the backfield, and Josh Adams in the backfield.

With as many DTs as we have right now, can we run a few Bama sets with 2 DTs fullbacking for the RB in goal line situations....

 

[TheTurningPoint]

He'd force Nelson or Elmer to the bench?

That's why i said the best five or six. Bars got into the rotation and I feel the 2nd string C is good enough to at least get reps at RG if not eventually start.

 

[GBdomer]

No offense GB, but if you mean by this that Elmer would be benched then you clearly don't know Coach Kelly or Hiestand. A true senior is not going to be benched.

Edit: if you did not mean this, then pardon me.

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I know it's not in his DNA but Mike Frank also pointed out that he wonders if Bars stayed healthy he would have taken over at RG

 

[irishff1014]

With the embarrassment or riches we have of talented, huge offensive linemen, why haven't we tried something a la Stanford with a jumbo goal line set? once we are 5 yards within the goal line, send out 7 Offensive linemen, a TE and Luatua in the backfield, and Josh Adams in the backfield.

Because Kelly's offense doesn't put the wboc under center. So the bring I the 2 tight ends in sometimes to get some what of that concept.

 

[Luckylucci]

Elmer graded out at 98.4% --- second on the line to McGlinchey.

Boggles me as to what some people want.

As to next year's OLine and rotation: {{opinion based on play plus coaches commentaries}}
LT: Bars or McGlinchey starts
LG: Nelson starts
C: Mustipher or Hoge or Bivin starts [all have gotten regular praise, and Bivin showed out well at center in the HS All-star game, having athleticism and smarts --- just like they're trying Big Tommy now.]
RG: Elmer Starts
RT: McGlinchey or Bars starts.

Idealized three men backing up the five starters: The two potential centers who don't win the Center competition, plus McGovern.

The "other two" rotational OLinemen who are not first choices for "next man in": ? who knows, but there are few choices, since it won't be a freshman, even Kraemer, and it won't be Montelus, who seems not to fit. {I have an insane thought of using Montelus as an H-Back a la Luatua, blocking Fridge-like at the goal-line.}

Those are only in pass blocking situations, completely useless when trying to figure out what happened when we ran the ball. I'm not saying it was bad, I don't even know the numbers there, but its basically half of the game. Also, like I've stated in the past. OG's will, most likely, have high pass blocking %'s because they are involved in a lot of double teams. Therefore not having to deal with as many 1 on 1's as OT's are.

 

[Luckylucci]

On another note, Tommy continues to impress today. The way 247 does it is they have a bunch of different writers cover each practice (East/West) and point out, as it occurs, things they see. You'll notice some favoritism but it is also interesting to see these guys, that have no allegiance, give other teams players credit. Per the UGA 247 guy, Tommy has been VERY IMPRESSIVE today.

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

Because Kelly's offense doesn't put the wboc under center. So the bring I the 2 tight ends in sometimes to get some what of that concept.

White-boy on campus?

 

[ResLife Hero]

Army Bowl: East top performers day two

Next Five Offense
1. Cincinnati (Ohio) Elder five-star offensive tackle Tommy Kraemer, a Notre Dame commit, has been the best East offensive lineman both days of practice but really hit his stride Tuesday morning. In the run blocking drill he was very physical at the point of attack and was able to get a push against a very talented West d-line on nearly every snap. Kraemer teamed up with fellow five-star tight end Isaac Nauta to really pave the way on the right side. The nation’s No. 2 offensive tackle according to 247Sports also has long arms and the largest hands of any offensive lineman here in Texas and he uses both well in pass protection. You can tell Kraemer has been well coaches as the offensive line coach rarely has to talk with him.

 

[arrowryan]

It will come down to Mustipher and Hoge and IMO while most have Mustipher pegged for the job I think it could be a battle that goes into fall camp

Agreed. I think Mustipher vs Hoge will be the only real battle we will see throughout the Spring and Fall. All of the spots are pretty much locked up. I guess you could say Bars and McGlinchey will be in a battle for the LT spot but the loser of that will just get moved to RT.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Agreed. I think Mustipher vs Hoge will be the only real battle we will see throughout the Spring and Fall. All of the spots are pretty much locked up. I guess you could say Bars and McGlinchey will be in a battle for the LT spot but the loser of that will just get moved to RT.

Why not keep McGlinchey on the right side of the line and put Bars on the left side just to set the chemistry of the line early on?

 

[BobbyMac]

Why not keep McGlinchey on the right side of the line and put Bars on the left side just to set the chemistry of the line early on?

Especially when...(ok, if) Lucky Lefty is the QB.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Agreed. I think Mustipher vs Hoge will be the only real battle we will see throughout the Spring and Fall. All of the spots are pretty much locked up. I guess you could say Bars and McGlinchey will be in a battle for the LT spot but the loser of that will just get moved to RT.

I am not so sure that will be the only battle along the line this offseason. There is a lot of talent waiting to play with open spots along the line.

 

[arrowryan]

Why not keep McGlinchey on the right side of the line and put Bars on the left side just to set the chemistry of the line early on?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Final regular season pass protection numbers for Notre Dame o-line <a href="https://t.co/5vXJSr4p5g">pic.twitter.com/5vXJSr4p5g</a></p>— CFB Film Room (@CFBFilmRoom) <a href="https://twitter.com/CFBFilmRoom/status/672885436700753920">December 4, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notre Dame RT Mike McGlinchey (<a href="https://twitter.com/BigGlinch68">@BigGlinch68</a>) finished the season w/ team-high 98.7% pass block success rate. Just 5 pressures allowed all yr</p>— CFB Film Room (@CFBFilmRoom) <a href="https://twitter.com/CFBFilmRoom/status/671839937575063552">December 1, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Statistically speaking, McGlinchey had a better year than Ronnie Stanley who could go in the top 3 in the draft. Big Mike has the ability to allow zero pressure coming from the QB's blind side and that is huge. Also, both McGlinchey and Nelson have nasty mean streaks and the thought of those two on the left side of the line is awesome.

I am not so sure that will be the only battle along the line this offseason. There is a lot of talent waiting to play with open spots along the line.

We seem to already have Ronnie's and Martin's replacement. What other open spots are there?

 

[BobbyMac]

Statistically speaking, McGlinchey had a better year than Ronnie Stanley who could go in the top 3 in the draft. Big Mike has the ability to allow zero pressure coming from the QB's blind side and that is huge. Also, both McGlinchey and Nelson have nasty mean streaks and the thought of those two on the left side of the line is awesome.


We seem to already have Ronnie's and Martin's replacement. What other open spots are there?

Is it still better if the guy lined up across from Stanley is the best pass rusher on the other team, going after the right handed QB's blindside over 300+ snaps?

As far as the spots, I'd say that McG and QN are 100% locks to start. IMO barring injury, QN at LG is the only lock there is right now.

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[PANDFAN]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tommy Kraemer's uniform was lost by the "laundry," had to wear a yellow jersey. Rumor has it Jonathon Cooper seen coming out of laundry room</p>— Steve Hare (@share24) <a href="https://twitter.com/share24/status/685181552632791040">January 7, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Luckylucci]

Haha, you know, because he's been dominating Cooper all week.