2016 Presidential Horse Race

2016 Presidential Horse Race


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Cackalacky

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I have not heard or seen anyone really post much on this but it is apparent that the DNC and particularly Debbie Wasserman Schultz is all in on Hillary and it is showing.

The Bernie Sanders campaign has been unable to access the DNC 50 -state voter list recently and apparently the DNC is dragging its feet to fix their access. There are petitions going up trying to force DWS to fix it ASAP. Obviously with Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary coming up soon,access to the list is very much needed.

Also it's apparent the the debates have been scheduled in such a manner that they designed to keep as many people as possible from seeing them. This latest one will be held tomorrow night, on a Saturday.

It's a shame considering that Bernie Sanders would best Trump in a general election and HRCs favorability are currently at 60-35 against.
 

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The Bernie Sanders campaign has been unable to access the DNC 50 -state voter list recently and apparently the DNC is dragging its feet to fix their access. There are petitions going up trying to force DWS to fix it ASAP. Obviously with Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary coming up soon,access to the list is very much needed.

That's apparently not an accident:


Sanders campaign accesses Clinton data - CNNPolitics.com
 

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Haha. That would explain it I guess.

Bernie just received the backing of some labor group. It's not huge but it could help keep that train rolling. I really hope something terribly scandalous comes out to knock Hillary out and Sanders is there to take it and run.
 

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South Carolina Politics on the state and local level is amazingly corrupt. I am surprised it never makes the news.

I have been shocked. I was mildly involved in small town politics in OH before moving down here. It was fun to be involved in seeing the community have a true say in what was happening in the town. Small town politics in SC are so corrupt it is impossible to have any influence on what happens.

Of course I am a yankee and folks don't want to here my opinion anyway...
 
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Cackalacky

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Bernie just received the backing of some labor group. It's not huge but it could help keep that train rolling. I really hope something terribly scandalous comes out to knock Hillary out and Sanders is there to take it and run.

There is every indication that the DNC, beltway establishment, and media all are in the court of HRC. I don't think Bernie gets a fair shake to challenge them at all even though in most polls I have seen have him ahead of HzRC and able to beat the Republican candidate in general election.
 

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There is every indication that the DNC, beltway establishment, and media all are in the court of HRC. I don't think Bernie gets a fair shake to challenge them at all even though in most polls I have seen have him ahead of HzRC and able to beat the Republican candidate in general election.

He's doing well in Iowa and NH polls against Clinton, but she is clobbering him in later states with a lot of African American voters. He's been able to get little traction with minority voters for some reason.
 

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He's doing well in Iowa and NH polls against Clinton, but she is clobbering him in later states with a lot of African American voters. He's been able to get little traction with minority voters for some reason.

Killer Mike needs to get on that.
 

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...sounds to me like the firewall has been intermittent. And the one thing I know about shared servers, and delicate data...if one side is blowing the whistle, its because they likely knew how to utilize the vulnerability first...

...and the obvious question. Why do Democrats hire incompetent IT people? They clearly have the best talent in terms of number crunching for support of the ground game...why can't they hire a company that isn't comprised of IT JV (no the real meaning of JV). Seriously.
 

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I have not heard or seen anyone really post much on this but it is apparent that the DNC and particularly Debbie Wasserman Schultz is all in on Hillary and it is showing.

The Bernie Sanders campaign has been unable to access the DNC 50 -state voter list recently and apparently the DNC is dragging its feet to fix their access. There are petitions going up trying to force DWS to fix it ASAP. Obviously with Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary coming up soon,access to the list is very much needed.

Also it's apparent the the debates have been scheduled in such a manner that they designed to keep as many people as possible from seeing them. This latest one will be held tomorrow night, on a Saturday.

It's a shame considering that Bernie Sanders would best Trump in a general election and HRCs favorability are currently at 60-35 against.

Hahahahaha

I'm not a huge Trump fan (I find him entertaining) and I don't want him to be the guy for the GOP, but America isn't ready for the Bern. 20 more years of progressivism might tip the boat towards the nanny state.
 

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Hahahahaha

I'm not a huge Trump fan (I find him entertaining) and I don't want him to be the guy for the GOP, but America isn't ready for the Bern. 20 more years of progressivism might tip the boat towards the nanny state.

Assume for a moment that the Republican candidate for president is going to lose. Can you honestly say you'd prefer Hillary over Bernie?
 

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I'd prefer the Bern. Can't stand his politics, but at least he isn't at the head of a damned criminal enterprise. Integrity has to stand for something. Besides, the congress isn't going to whiplash back to Democrat anytime soon, so whatever he does won't be permanent...
 

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Interesting to see if Hillary goes after Bernie on the database firewall issue tonight. I say she does ... My wife things she lets him off the hook the way he did with her over her email thing.
 

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Interesting to see if Hillary goes after Bernie on the database firewall issue tonight. I say she does ... My wife things she lets him off the hook the way he did with her over her email thing.

Hillary just doesn't impress me at all. I've been watching the debate and she comes off as an antagonizing, well-educated child.

It feels like even the claps are staged. She gets people clapping when she doesn't say anything novel.
 

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Hillary just doesn't impress me at all. I've been watching the debate and she comes off as an antagonizing, well-educated child.

It feels like even the claps are staged. She gets people clapping when she doesn't say anything novel.

She learned to do that from her husband perhaps.
 

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She learned to do that from her husband perhaps.

Perhaps, although that seems unfair. I think she learned to be a facile fool all on her own.

I'm deeply saddened by the idea that she may be chosen to lead our country based a single merit: gender.

I don't think it will be gender. She's running on last name alone.

You're all wrong. She'll probably win because neither party is capable of producing a candidate worth a damn to run against her. The elections slate is the most embarrassing group I've witnessed in my lifetime.
 

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Wierd but all those groups she is campaigning against seem to keep giving her tons of cash.

She is a typical politician. Says what it takes to get elected then takes care of those who provided the funds. Sad state our political process is in.
 
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Again by a wide margin Sanders wins polls and focus groups yet HRC dominates all the mainstream media pages nd talking head opinions per Alternet:
Sanders won the CNN focus group, the Fusion focus group, and the Fox News focus group; in the latter, he even converted several Hillary supporters. He won the Slate online poll, CNN/Time online poll, 9News Colorado, The Street online poll, Fox5 poll, the conservative Drudge online poll and the liberal Daily Kos online poll. There wasn’t, to this writer's knowledge, a poll he didn’t win by at least an 18-point margin. But you wouldn’t know this from reading the establishment press. The New York Times, the New Yorker, CNN, Politico, Slate, New York Magazine, and Vox all unanimously say Hillary Clinton cleaned house. What gives?

Firstly, it’s important to point out that online polls, and to a lesser extent focus groups, are obviously not scientific. But it’s also important to point out that the echo chamber musings of establishment liberal pundits is far, far less scientific. It wasn’t that the online polls and focus groups had Sanders winning, it’s that they had him winning by a lot. And it wasn’t just that the pundit class has Clinton winning, it’s that they had her winning by a lot. This gap speaks to a larger gap we’ve seen since the beginning of the Sanders campaign. The mainstream media writes off Bernie and is constantly shocked when his polls numbers go up. What explains this phenomenon? Freddie DeBoer had this to say:

This morning, I’ve been pointing out on Twitter that the unanimity of pro-Hillary Clinton journalism coming from the mouthpieces of establishment Democratic politics — Slate, Vox, New York Magazine, etc. — is entirely predictable and has no meaningful relationship to her actual performance at the debate last night. That’s because, one, the Democrats are a centrist party that is interested in maintaining the stranglehold of the DNC establishment on their presidential politics, and these publications toe that line. And second, because Clinton has long been assumed to be the heavy favorite to win the presidency, these publications are in a heated battle to produce the most sympathetic coverage, in order to gain access. That is a tried-and-true method of career advancement in political journalism. Ezra Klein was a well-regarded blogger and journalist. He became the most influential journalist in DC (and someone, I can tell you with great confidence, that young political journalists are terrified of crossing) through his rabid defense of Obamacare, and subsequent access to the President. That people would try and play the same role with Clinton is as natural and unsurprising as I can imagine.

Many establishment journalists were in a hurry to declare Clinton not just the winner of the debate, but of the party nomination. One fairly creepy exchange between Ryan Lizza of the New Yorker and Alec MacGillis summed it up nicely:

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"Pretend" there's a race? Isn't that sort of the whole point of democracy? To have as much debate and vetting as possible before nominating a potential leader of the free world? Matt Yglesias at Vox also dismissed this entire primary process out of hand:

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It's unclear what the rush is. The first primary is months away, yet they're ready to call it based entirely on an ad hoc analysis of one debate. This tweet by Michael Cohen of the Boston Globe perfectly sums up mainstream media's cluelessness:
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A "protest candidate"? If Cohen hasn't noticed, the electorate is full of piss and vinegar and rancor, which is precisely why an otherwise obscure, self-described Socialist has risen in the polls the way he has.

But the question still remains: why the rush to write off Sanders? Why the constant gap between how the public perceives Sanders and how the mainstream media does? Why, most of all, would anyone listen to the very same pundit class that was wrong in '08 and continues to be wrong in 2015?
 

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Lindsey Graham ends 2016 White House run - CNNPolitics.com

By Kate Bolduan, Anchor
Updated 9:46 AM ET, Mon December 21, 2015

(CNN)Senator Lindsey Graham is ending his presidential campaign, he told CNN during an exclusive interview airing Monday.

"I'm going to suspend my campaign. I'm not going to suspend my desire to help the country," the South Carolina senator said in a wide-ranging and candid discussion in which he acknowledged: "I've hit a wall here."

He made the official announcement in an email to supporters and Youtube video posted Monday morning

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