'16 MI OLB Daelin Hayes (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

FightingIrishLover7 · Dec 11, 2015

Cackalacky said:
I recall shoulders being the main issue and he has not completed a full season of football. He may not even have completed a half season of football. He moved from Michigan to California and back again IIRC as well. Maybe others can elaborate more.

So, he has injured both shoulders?

Cackalacky · Dec 11, 2015

FightingIrishLover7 said:
So, he has injured both shoulders?

IDK if both shoulders but multiple injuries yes.

dublinirish · Dec 11, 2015

Cackalacky said:
IDK if both shoulders but multiple injuries yes.

the injury he got @ OLSM his sophmore year is kinda sketchy. I looked around for about 20 mins online and found no details. He got it in his first game of varsity.

kjones · Dec 11, 2015

One of his missed seasons was from moving, not from injury, pretty sure it was his Junior year. When he moved back to Michigan he was declared ineligible and only got 3 games from his time in California.

Cackalacky · Dec 11, 2015

I am fairly certain there were multiple injuries. But whatever. Not arguing. Dude has not played very much Football in high school.

Luckylucci · Dec 11, 2015

kjones said:
One of his missed seasons was from moving, not from injury, pretty sure it was his Junior year. When he moved back to Michigan he was declared ineligible and only got 3 games from his time in California.

I don't think so. Pretty sure he lost his sophomore season due to his first shoulder surgery.

connor_in · Dec 11, 2015

Cackalacky said:
I am fairly certain there were multiple injuries. But whatever. Not arguing. Dude has not played very much Football in high school.

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connor_in · Dec 11, 2015

dublinirish said:
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AHHHH, that's it...he chose us over State as he was tired of the block S

Luckylucci · Dec 11, 2015

This article illustrates the general point. It says that his sophomore season was cut short due to injury to his left shoulder against Oak Park.

Prep ticker: Injury cuts short Skyline star Daelin Hayes' season again

Irish#1 · Dec 11, 2015

dublinirish said:
the injury he got @ OLSM his sophmore year is kinda sketchy. I looked around for about 20 mins online and found no details. He got it in his first game of varsity.

kjones said:
One of his missed seasons was from moving, not from injury, pretty sure it was his Junior year. When he moved back to Michigan he was declared ineligible and only got 3 games from his time in California.

Cackalacky said:
I am fairly certain there were multiple injuries. But whatever. Not arguing. Dude has not played very much Football in high school.

Didn't he get one of those injuries while he was moving from CA to MI?

palinurus · Dec 11, 2015

Maybe this is a dumb question, but can schools ask for medical records on a potential recruit? I doubt they can have school doctors examine but you'd think the NCAA would set up a cut-out that would allow kids to make medical records available to whichever schools want them. It's kind of material.....

kjones · Dec 11, 2015

These things aren't mutually exclusive.

Sophomore year: injury
Junior year: moving and ineligibility
Senior year: injury

I was just saying that one of the years wasn't an injury. I wasn't saying there weren't multiple injuries, there were. Two is greater than one.

Cackalacky · Dec 11, 2015

Cackalacky said:
I recall shoulders being the main issue and he has not completed a full season of football. He may not even have completed a half season of football. He moved from Michigan to California and back again IIRC as well. Maybe others can elaborate more.

FightingIrishLover7 said:
So, he has injured both shoulders?

Cackalacky said:
IDK if both shoulders but multiple injuries yes.

Cackalacky said:
I am fairly certain there were multiple injuries. But whatever. Not arguing. Dude has not played very much Football in high school.

kjones said:
These things aren't mutually exclusive.

Sophomore year: injury
Junior year: moving and ineligibility
Senior year: injury

I was just saying that one of the years wasn't an injury. I wasn't saying there weren't multiple injuries, there were. Two is greater than one.

No shit which is why I said I was fairly certain there were multiple injuries. I am not sure why you keep thinking I said something about lost.years. I said that I recall there being multiple injuries. And him not playing much.

BobbyMac · Dec 11, 2015

kjones said:
One of his missed seasons was from moving, not from injury, pretty sure it was his Junior year. When he moved back to Michigan he was declared ineligible and only got 3 games from his time in California.

Luckylucci said:
I don't think so. Pretty sure he lost his sophomore season due to his first shoulder surgery.

I checked into this. I was at his 4th game during his Jr. season vs JSerra Catholic. He did not play because I was told by a St Bonnie player's Dad, he had hurt his shoulder. This is about the time Dad legally forced Mom to bring him back to Michigan. I just got back from my SoCal HS football happy hour and I was told he had indeed hurt his shoulder and would have played in that game had he been healthy.

So officially, he missed games due to injury in all 3 varsity seasons.

This is one of the reasons I like the direction of his build over the last year. The added weight/mass on his frame in the pec, trap, delt and lat area will support that joint.

I had a shoulder injury from baseball that an added 40 upper body lbs basically eliminated without surgery through stabilization.

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TheTurningPoint · Dec 12, 2015

TheOneWhoKnocks said:
I meant his right arm didn't move much in commit vid, so I did see that correctly since you're saying it was indeed his right shoulder hurt. Was he supposed to be recovered by now? Or at least when he EE

I mean, not to sound like a smart ass, but he is running in a video. What kind of movements would you like him to do?

He had surgery on Novermber 17th, so I am sure he is far from 100% and is in the rehab process. But, you could watch an interview with DeShone Kizer and say he had a shoulder problem from not moving in pregame warmups.

TheTurningPoint · Dec 12, 2015

palinurus said:
Maybe this is a dumb question, but can schools ask for medical records on a potential recruit? I doubt they can have school doctors examine but you'd think the NCAA would set up a cut-out that would allow kids to make medical records available to whichever schools want them. It's kind of material.....

Yes. Hayes was evaluated by Notre Dame doctors on his official visit. Hayes will be ready for spring ball.

Luckylucci · Dec 12, 2015

IrishTP said:
Yes. Hayes was evaluated by Notre Dame doctors on his official visit. Hayes will be ready for spring ball.

Any word on what type of ready they expect him to be? I read at the MSU board that his camp thought he needed a RS year.

KPENN · Dec 12, 2015

Luckylucci said:
Any word on what type of ready they expect him to be? I read at the MSU board that his camp thought he needed a RS year.

According to ISD he'll be ready for spring.

ThePiombino · Dec 12, 2015

IrishTP said:
Yes. Hayes was evaluated by Notre Dame doctors on his official visit. Hayes will be ready for spring ball.

Luckylucci said:
Any word on what type of ready they expect him to be? I read at the MSU board that his camp thought he needed a RS year.

KPENN said:
According to ISD he'll be ready for spring.

lol we can do this for days

KPENN · Dec 12, 2015

ThePiombino said:
lol we can do this for days

Haha. Holy hell. I am drunk and totally misread lucky. Whoops. Lol

Blazers46 · Dec 12, 2015

IrishTP said:
Yes. Hayes was evaluated by Notre Dame doctors on his official visit. Hayes will be ready for spring ball.

Luckylucci said:
Any word on what type of ready they expect him to be? I read at the MSU board that his camp thought he needed a RS year.

KPENN said:
According to ISD he'll be ready for spring.

ThePiombino said:
lol we can do this for days

He got hurt? What happened?

IrishSteelhead · Dec 12, 2015

Blazers46 said:
He got hurt? What happened?

OMG. Seeing this thread bumped made me nervous!!!

johnnycando · Dec 12, 2015

Let's get this fella on the free my page.

I like seeing (2) five stars on the commit page.

Looks like we might be seeing 3 also. Maybe.

GrangerIrish24 · Dec 12, 2015

johnnycando;1656444 Looks like we might be seeing 3 also. Maybe.[/QUOTE said:
Who is this third you speak of?

dad4aa · Dec 12, 2015

GrangerIrish24 said:
Who is this third you speak of?

Hopefully Kelly

johnnycando · Dec 12, 2015

dad4aa said:
Hopefully Kelly

Yes.

Bogtrotter07 · Dec 12, 2015

Just because Kelly doesn't want to leave ND after his official, and is swinging from a chandelier in the Gug, what makes you think Kelly is interested?

I thought I would use italics to make this easier for all readers with hemorrhoids, you know, those with tendencies to get butt-hurt?

TDHeysus · Dec 12, 2015

dublinirish said:
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The impact if losing Tony Alford (to OSU of all places) couldn't not be outlined better by his comments about Alford.

(paraphrasing)
-"If it wasnt for Coach Alford, OSU was not in the picture. Coach Alford open a new road to OSU that wasnt there before."

-"I met him back at Irish Invasion when he was coaching the RB's..."

Bogtrotter07 · Dec 12, 2015

Wow! Someone may have already mentioned this. But this kid seems like a great guy. And he seems nothing like anything portrayed in the entirety of his recruitment!

He kind of reminds me more of Romeo, when I must be honest, I probably expected more of an Aaron.

Goldedommer44 · Dec 12, 2015

Bogtrotter07 said:
Wow! Someone may have already mentioned this. But this kid seems like a great guy. And he seems nothing like anything portrayed in the entirety of his recruitment!

He kind of reminds me more of Romeo, when I must be honest, I probably expected more of an Aaron.

Was anyone else bothered by the fact that the backdrop was upside down?

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