ND's Path to the 2015 Playoffs

[NDohio]

Not necessarily. We could be in the same division as Clemson.

I realize that, but having that opportunity would be awesome. I would love to play them on a neutral field, decent weather, and a more experienced DK.

 

[phork]

All this hand wringing is for naught. ND has to win out period.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

All this hand wringing is for naught. ND has to win out period.

True. But that still might not be enough.

If OSU, Baylor, Clemson, and LSU all win-out as well, ND is out. You can swap MSU or Iowa in for OSU. You can swap TCU or OkSt for Baylor. Those are just the potentials for undefeated teams (rare, I know, but still worth mentioning). Utah winning the PAC or one-loss UF winning the SEC against potentially one-loss LSU can royally screw ND too. Bottom line, ND will need help getting in. A lot of teams ahead of them need to lose (maybe even lose twice depending on who wins the conf. champs).

 

[ulukinatme]

True. But that still might not be enough.

If OSU, Baylor, Clemson, and LSU all win-out as well, ND is out. You can swap MSU or Iowa in for OSU. You can swap TCU or OkSt for Baylor. Those are just the potentials for undefeated teams (rare, I know, but still worth mentioning). Utah winning the PAC or one-loss UF winning the SEC against potentially one-loss LSU can royally screw ND too. Bottom line, ND will need help getting in. A lot of teams ahead of them need to lose (maybe even lose twice depending on who wins the conf. champs).

All four of those teams aren't going to go undefeated. It's certainly possible, but highly unlikely, especially with Baylor's remaining games and breaking in a new QB. I wouldn't even say it's worth mentioning because how many times have four Power 5 teams gone completely unbeaten? It just doesn't happen. We certainly need help, and some will depend on how much emphasis the committee puts on conference championships again, but I don't see Utah or Florida jumping back into the race.

Look at it this way...for Utah to get in they would need an impressive win over an 11-1 Stanford I'm guessing. If we beat Stanford, it isn't going to mean as much if Utah beats them the following week. Utah would likely need Stanford to run the table, and if they do that we're out anyway. I don't think Utah beats Stanford though, Stanford is playing pretty well right now.

The same is true for Florida. Florida is certainly still in this, but it's unlikely that more than 1 SEC team is getting into the playoff. Alabama is currently ahead of us, as is LSU. One of those teams will have to lose. The SEC-W champion will likely face Florida (Or Georgia). The winner will be in the playoff, the loser is likely out. So, even if Florida runs the table, it doesn't really matter because they'll be taking up the SEC playoff spot and the other teams ahead of us will likely be out. The committee isn't going to put two teams from the same conference in the playoff, not unless 2 champs from the Power 5 have 3 or more losses I'd wager.

 

[NDgradstudent]

The committee isn't going to put two teams from the same conference in the playoff, not unless 2 champs from the Power 5 have 3 or more losses I'd wager.

The problem is that we are effectively "in the same conference" as Clemson because we played them.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

I know the likelihood of those teams all running the table is basically nonexistent. But even with the one-loss field, ND will still need a lot of luck to get into the top 4. They basically need to beat Stanford and then have the Trees go on to win the PAC (a two-loss conf. champ will take a back seat to ND in this case because of head-to-head). They also need one other conference champ/leader to have two losses when it's said and done. THEN they need the committee to not over value conference champions and put a two-loss champ in ahead of one-loss ND.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

The committee spoke loud and clear last year: Conference Champions carry a lot of weight. SOS carries weight. Head-to-Head carries weight.

ND looks good in the latter two categories with a hypothetical win against potential PAC champ Stanford and very close loss to potential ACC champ Clemson. But they obviously lack in the conference championship category.

 

[phork]

True. But that still might not be enough.

If OSU, Baylor, Clemson, and LSU all win-out as well, ND is out. You can swap MSU or Iowa in for OSU. You can swap TCU or OkSt for Baylor. Those are just the potentials for undefeated teams (rare, I know, but still worth mentioning). Utah winning the PAC or one-loss UF winning the SEC against potentially one-loss LSU can royally screw ND too. Bottom line, ND will need help getting in. A lot of teams ahead of them need to lose (maybe even lose twice depending on who wins the conf. champs).

I'm not worried about the other teams.

Michigan fans think they are still headed for the playoffs, LULZ.

 

[gkIrish]

True. But that still might not be enough.

If OSU, Baylor, Clemson, and LSU all win-out as well, ND is out. You can swap MSU or Iowa in for OSU. You can swap TCU or OkSt for Baylor. Those are just the potentials for undefeated teams (rare, I know, but still worth mentioning). Utah winning the PAC or one-loss UF winning the SEC against potentially one-loss LSU can royally screw ND too. Bottom line, ND will need help getting in. A lot of teams ahead of them need to lose (maybe even lose twice depending on who wins the conf. champs).

I look at it like this. Who controls their own destiny?:

LSU
Alabama
Florida
MSU
OSU
Iowa
Baylor
TCU
OK State
Clemson

If any of those teams win out they are GUARANTEED a playoff spot. No other team, as of now, controls their own destiny.

 

[BobbyMac]

I look at it like this. Who controls their own destiny?:

LSU
Alabama
Florida
MSU
OSU
Iowa
Baylor
TCU
OK State
Clemson

If any of those teams win out they are GUARANTEED a playoff spot. No other team, as of now, controls their own destiny.

If Stanford won every remaining game on it's schedule by 40 are Alabama or Florida guaranteed the #4 seed if they win every game on their schedules by 1? Don't forget, one of those 1 point wins would be over Chattanooga School of the Blind... at home.

I won't even bring up a 13-0 Memphis if they hang 50 burgers on undefeated Houston & Temple (twice) and a 1 loss Navy.

All hypothetical, all doubtful, all mathematically possible.

Only 8 teams truly have their playoff hopes in their own hands.

 

[ulukinatme]

I know the likelihood of those teams all running the table is basically nonexistent. But even with the one-loss field, ND will still need a lot of luck to get into the top 4. They basically need to beat Stanford and then have the Trees go on to win the PAC (a two-loss conf. champ will take a back seat to ND in this case because of head-to-head). They also need one other conference champ/leader to have two losses when it's said and done. THEN they need the committee to not over value conference champions and put a two-loss champ in ahead of one-loss ND.

I disagree. If we win out, and nothing badshit crazy happens, I think we're in the Top 4. This is the current AP Top 10:

tOSU
Baylor
Clemson
LSU
TCU
Michigan State
Alabama
Stanford
Us
Iowa

tOSU or Michigan State will drop when they play each other, and both teams could drop if Michigan beats tOSU, but I have a feeling tOSU wins out and someone from the B1G will be in the playoff anyway more than likely. In either case, we move up one here to #8 eventually.

LSU and Alabama play, so same scenario, one will drop and even if they don't, both aren't likely to get into the playoff so you have to eliminate one of them.

Baylor and TCU play, same scenario, both won't likely get in so one will drop.

That puts us at #6 just based on standard elimination.

We play Stanford, and if we win that puts us at #5.

As a hypothetical, that leaves say...tOSU, Alabama, TCU probably, and Clemson ahead of us. We obviously can't jump Clemson since they beat us, and maybe they lose, but I think they have the easiest road to the playoff now and I think the 2 point loss looks mighty good if they win out. I think tOSU and Alabama win out, but both still have a couple big games left and either way I don't see the SEC or B1G getting left out of the playoff, someone will take that spot most likely. Who is left? The Big 12 and TCU. TCU is a good team, but they've looked beatable at times. They struggled with Minnesota, barely won a shootout with Texas Tech, won a 1 possession game to a struggling Kansas State team, and weren't exactly that impressive against Iowa State. TCU's toughest games are still coming up with Baylor, OK State, and Oklahoma. Oklahoma is probably the best of these 3 teams, their Texas loss was a fluke night against a big rival and Texas has gotten better since September. If TCU picks up one loss they're likely done since their schedule is not very good and they have no conference championship to fall back on. That's where the 2 point loss to an undefeated Clemson would work in our favor.

We already know the Big 12 is going to cannibalize each other, it's just a matter of time. One team could escape unscathed, but it's unlikely. Pray for every Big 12 team to have at least 1 loss. If that happens and we win out, we're in.

I'm not going to go over any scenarios where a team jumps us again simply because it won't matter, they would likely be taking a playoff spot from a conference member ahead of them.

 

[philipm31]

I disagree. If we win out, and nothing badshit crazy happens, I think we're in the Top 4. This is the current AP Top 10:

tOSU
Baylor
Clemson
LSU
TCU
Michigan State
Alabama
Stanford
Us
Iowa

tOSU or Michigan State will drop when they play each other, and both teams could drop if Michigan beats tOSU, but I have a feeling tOSU wins out and someone from the B1G will be in the playoff anyway more than likely. In either case, we move up one here to #8 eventually.

LSU and Alabama play, so same scenario, one will drop and even if they don't, both aren't likely to get into the playoff so you have to eliminate one of them.

Baylor and TCU play, same scenario, both won't likely get in so one will drop.

That puts us at #6 just based on standard elimination.

We play Stanford, and if we win that puts us at #5.

As a hypothetical, that leaves say...tOSU, Alabama, TCU probably, and Clemson ahead of us. We obviously can't jump Clemson since they beat us, and maybe they lose, but I think they have the easiest road to the playoff now and I think the 2 point loss looks mighty good if they win out. I think tOSU and Alabama win out, but both still have a couple big games left and either way I don't see the SEC or B1G getting left out of the playoff, someone will take that spot most likely. Who is left? The Big 12 and TCU. TCU is a good team, but they've looked beatable at times. They struggled with Minnesota, barely won a shootout with Texas Tech, won a 1 possession game to a struggling Kansas State team, and weren't exactly that impressive against Iowa State. TCU's toughest games are still coming up with Baylor, OK State, and Oklahoma. Oklahoma is probably the best of these 3 teams, their Texas loss was a fluke night against a big rival and Texas has gotten better since September. If TCU picks up one loss they're likely done since their schedule is not very good and they have no conference championship to fall back on. That's where the 2 point loss to an undefeated Clemson would work in our favor.

We already know the Big 12 is going to cannibalize each other, it's just a matter of time. One team could escape unscathed, but it's unlikely. Pray for every Big 12 team to have at least 1 loss. If that happens and we win out, we're in.

I'm not going to go over any scenarios where a team jumps us again simply because it won't matter, they would likely be taking a playoff spot from a conference member ahead of them.

You assume that the polls will actually drop the loser of Bama vs LSU next week. If it is as close as it was a few years ago, or as close as the Mississippi vs Bama game was this year, neither team is dropping far, especially if Bama wins a close one. Either Bama blows out LSU or LSU win against Bama, otherwise we are not jumping either team because people still think a 2-loss Mississippi team-who got BLITZED by Memphis-is still a viable contender, simply because they are an SEC team. Hell, I bet there are people who would say the same thing about Bama, even with 2 losses being better than whomever wins the SEC should they lose to LSU next Saturday.

The fact that Pitt lost before we got to them is also kind of bad for ND. STAN and CLEM need to run the table the rest of the way for us to have a prayer at being considered. Nothing is guaranteed for ND, even in an unbeaten season, much less when we already have a loss.

 

[ulukinatme]

You assume that the polls will actually drop the loser of Bama vs LSU next week. If it is as close as it was a few years ago, or as close as the Mississippi vs Bama game was this year, neither team is dropping far, especially if Bama wins a close one. Either Bama blows out LSU or LSU win against Bama, otherwise we are not jumping either team because people still think a 2-loss Mississippi team-who got BLITZED by Memphis-is still a viable contender, simply because they are an SEC team. Hell, I bet there are people who would say the same thing about Bama, even with 2 losses being better than whomever wins the SEC should they lose to LSU next Saturday.

The fact that Pitt lost before we got to them is also kind of bad for ND. STAN and CLEM need to run the table the rest of the way for us to have a prayer at being considered. Nothing is guaranteed for ND, even in an unbeaten season, much less when we already have a loss.

It doesn't really matter if they drop the loser of LSU and Bama. If we're sitting around #5 or #6 the committee isn't likely going to put two SEC teams in the playoff. That's why we really need two of the P5 conferences to take themselves out of the running.

I thought Clemson had the easiest path to the playoffs at this point, and maybe they were looking ahead to Florida State, but they struggled against NC State for a bit. I'd still prefer Clemson to run the table though and hope we take the PAC-12/Big 12 spot.

 

[shalom]

if ND and Clemson win out, FSU has to beat Clemson or ND will not get in. It's that simple

the math isn't hard in any manner: there are 4 slots

1) OSU or Michigan State will get a slot
2) Big 12 champ will get a spot
3) SEC will get 1 spot

that leaves 1 slot

if the 2 teams win out with Clemson eliminating Florida State and ND eliminating Stanford, then Clemson will be in and ND will be out.

You have to stop thinking about 1 or 2 loss and think about QUALITY OF WINS near the deadline. The Big Ten has 2 top 10 teams, 3 top 20 teams, whose only losses will be in-conference. They will play a championship game whoever wins will end the season with a marque top 10 caliber win.

The Big 12 is in even a more elite position with 4 top 20 teams, 3 of which are undefeated and 1 has 1 loss. Whoever wins that conference with 1 or 2 losses will end the season with an "epic" top 10 or top 5 win.

This is what people are talking about when they say ND not playing in a conference hurts them. You have to stop thinking everyone else is ND. ND does in fact get eliminated as a hard fact with 2 losses. There's no other team in a top 5 conference with that hard limitation. It's going to be less about 1 loss or 2 loss and more about what quality of wins they have to end the season.

The conventional reasoning went out the window last year. Everyone was thinking this year about how 1 loss would eliminate their team from the discussion, and OSU lowered the boom on that line of thinking. The ironic thing is that of all the games that ND could have lost with the exception of their last game v Stanford probably the worst game to drop was versus the best team they would play: Clemson. Even losing to a shitty team would give a bit more wiggle room in the debate room at Playoff time, since this particular season if it comes down to Clemson versus ND, any right thinking person would have to give the nod to the team that won the direct head-to-head

 

[BobbyMac]

if ND and Clemson win out, FSU has to beat Clemson or ND will not get in. It's that simple

the math isn't hard in any manner: there are 4 slots

1) OSU or Michigan State will get a slot
2) Big 12 champ will get a spot
3) SEC will get 1 spot

that leaves 1 slot

You can't speak in absolutes.

1. I'll go with the B1G getting one spot even though it is technically possible that OSU and MSU both get two losses including the championship game. You neglected Iowa in your scenario. You can't. They could win out or they could lose two in conference.

2. Oklahoma wins out, they are the Big 12 champs, would have the same record as the Irish and their loss is to a team ND beat.

I'd bet that if all BIG 12's lose, then only TCU would have an argument to get in over ND.

3. Ole Miss wins out... The SEC gets nothing.

All kinds of crazy sh!t can happen and usually does.

.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I am absolutely certain no one can predict the final outcome of the teams listed this season.

One reason we have a chance is if we beat Stanford, no team in the PAC 12 can argue they should be in ahead of us.

With Clemson, it could go either way, but 0 and 2 are better for us than 1.

The Big 12 will cannibalize itself. The Big 12 does not have a championship game, so as such, recognizes no champion, yet has the top teams all playing each other round-robin style down the stretch. Not good for the Big 12 schools, sweet for ND.

The B1G0T conference is in a unique position. Both Michigan teams and pOSU are in one division, while Iowa is in another. This could bode really well or badly for the conference. Scenario's like MSU losing to OSU and beating Iowa in the championship game, or a one loss Iowa team winning the championship really curtail the argument for stellar inclusion of the conference.

Really if all the above happens, ND could argue that from the three mentioned conferences, no one has a better right than ND to make the playoff.

The SEC could end up like a frog in a blender and have a two loss champion with one bad loss. The will get in but again, by how much, and compared to who?

That leaves the ACC and that whole mess, with only Clemson and FSU really having a shot to argue they are as good or better than ND.

We will see.

 

[EifertPower]

if ND and Clemson win out, FSU has to beat Clemson or ND will not get in. It's that simple

the math isn't hard in any manner: there are 4 slots

1) OSU or Michigan State will get a slot
2) Big 12 champ will get a spot
3) SEC will get 1 spot

that leaves 1 slot

if the 2 teams win out with Clemson eliminating Florida State and ND eliminating Stanford, then Clemson will be in and ND will be out.

You have to stop thinking about 1 or 2 loss and think about QUALITY OF WINS near the deadline. The Big Ten has 2 top 10 teams, 3 top 20 teams, whose only losses will be in-conference. They will play a championship game whoever wins will end the season with a marque top 10 caliber win.

The Big 12 is in even a more elite position with 4 top 20 teams, 3 of which are undefeated and 1 has 1 loss. Whoever wins that conference with 1 or 2 losses will end the season with an "epic" top 10 or top 5 win.

This is what people are talking about when they say ND not playing in a conference hurts them. You have to stop thinking everyone else is ND. ND does in fact get eliminated as a hard fact with 2 losses. There's no other team in a top 5 conference with that hard limitation. It's going to be less about 1 loss or 2 loss and more about what quality of wins they have to end the season.

The conventional reasoning went out the window last year. Everyone was thinking this year about how 1 loss would eliminate their team from the discussion, and OSU lowered the boom on that line of thinking. The ironic thing is that of all the games that ND could have lost with the exception of their last game v Stanford probably the worst game to drop was versus the best team they would play: Clemson. Even losing to a shitty team would give a bit more wiggle room in the debate room at Playoff time, since this particular season if it comes down to Clemson versus ND, any right thinking person would have to give the nod to the team that won the direct head-to-head

This pretty spot on. It's not that complicated. Big 10 is getting one spot from either Ohio State, Michigan State, or Iowa (and hopefully only one spot). SEC is getting one spot from either LSU, Alabama, or Florida (and hopefully only one spot).

That leaves the final 2 spots for Pac-10 champ, Big 12 champ, ACC champ, Notre Dame, or a team like Memphis.

Texas Tech choking yesterday against Oklahoma State yesterday really hurt us. An 11-1 Big 12 team will get in over us most likely unless that team is Oklahoma. TCU or Baylor at 11-1 probably gets in over ND.

It's doubtful that Clemson will lose twice and Florida State will lose once more, so a 1-loss Clemson team will get in over ND and a 1-loss Florida State team which beat Clemson and Florida gets in over us as well.

Pac-10 champ isn't a concern so long as Stanford keeps winning as does USC.

It's really all about the Big 12 cannibalizing themselves and having a few big upsets. There are 3 undefeateds and all need to lose twice before the end of the season.

The committee tipped its hand last year that they measure quality of wins. They don't care about "good losses". So a valiant 2-point loss to #1 Clemson on the road in a monsoon means nothing in the committee's eyes. But a ugly, lucky win over a #5 ranked Stanford team would.

 

[MJ12666]

I am absolutely certain no one can predict the final outcome of the teams listed this season.

One reason we have a chance is if we beat Stanford, no team in the PAC 12 can argue they should be in ahead of us.

With Clemson, it could go either way, but 0 and 2 are better for us than 1.

The Big 12 will cannibalize itself. The Big 12 does not have a championship game, so as such, recognizes no champion, yet has the top teams all playing each other round-robin style down the stretch. Not good for the Big 12 schools, sweet for ND.

The B1G0T conference is in a unique position. Both Michigan teams and pOSU are in one conference, while Iowa is in another. This could bode really well or badly for the conference. Scenario's like MSU losing to OSU and beating Iowa in the championship game, or a one loss Iowa team winning the championship really curtail the argument for stellar inclusion of the conference.

Really if all the above happens, ND could argue that from the three mentioned conferences, no one has a better right than ND to make the playoff.

The SEC could end up like a frog in a blender and have a two loss champion with one bad loss. The will get in but again, by how much, and compared to who?

That leaves the ACC and that whole mess, with only Clemson and FSU really having a shot.

We will see.

While I agree with the above, unfortunately there are no arguments to be made. ND will not be invited to make a case as to why they are more deserving than any other teams. This is not a debate, the committee will pick who they want and based on its make-up I think it favors the big five conferences. With that said I don't really care about this week's poll. It is pretty meaningless. The committee showed last year that they really only care about who they think played the best in the last weekend, all else being equal. With that said there are still a lot of games to be played and many of the teams with better records than ND will be playing each other. ND simply needs to keep winning and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[stlnd01]

ND simply needs to keep winning and let the chips fall where they may.

This.

As for potential scenarios:

Personally I think there's a lot of disdain out there for the pathetic nonconference schedule that Baylor and TCU play (not to mention the lack of defense), and we get in over either at one loss apiece. Oklahoma might be a different story. But we did beat the team that beat them. Handily.

In the Big Ten, I think Ohio State gets the benefit of the doubt because they're defending national champions. I'm less sure that MSU or Iowa do. We probably need to root for OSU to lose two but we could jump the other two if they have a loss. So... OSU beats MSU but loses to Michigan. Still wins the division as highest-rated. Loses to Iowa in the title game, but Iowa carries a loss (to, say, Minnesota). I'm not sure who'd actually say Iowa's more deserving than we are.

I just don't see Clemson losing two. They're playing very good football right now. Best for us if they knock FSU out of the box next weekend and cruise to the conference title. (as a side note, the ACC is kind of pathetic.)

The SEC will send one but that's it. Their two-loss teams won't jump quality P5 one-loss teams. I guess LSU could lose close to Bama and remain in the hunt. But in the end it'll be carnage just like the Pac 12.

The Pac 12, for as many good football teams as it has, is amazingly irrelevant to all of this. Stanford and Utah are basically in the same boat we are. And no one else matters at all.

 

[BobbyMac]

Week 11's Playoff Contenders Schedule

Week 11's Playoff Contenders Schedule

Team...............losses......Opponent

AAC

(18) Houston........(0)..........UCinn
(15) Memphis.......(0)..........Navy

ACC

(3) Clemson..........(0)..........(17) FSU
(17) FSU...............(1)..........@ (3) Clemson
(21) UNC..............(1).......... Duke


B1G

(1) tOSU................(0).............Minn
(6) MSU.................(0).............Neb
(10) Iowa...............(0).............@ IU


Big 12

(2) Baylor...............(0)..............@ KSU
(5) TCU..................(0)..............@ (12) OSU
(12) OSU................(0)..............(5) TCU
(14) OU..................(1)..............ISU


PAC-12

(13) Utah................(1)...............@ Washington


SEC

(11) Florida.............(1)...............Vandy
(4) LSU.................(0)...............@ Bama
(7) Bama................(1)...............LSU

& ND's best friend...

(19) Ole Miss............(2)..............Ark


Opponents Week 10 schedule:

Texas vs. KU
UVa @ Miami
GT - BYE
UMass vs. Akron
Clemson vs. FSU
Navy @ Memphis
SC vs Zona
Temple @ SMU
Pitt vs ND
WF - BYE
BC vs NDSt
Stanford @ Col

 

[Black Irish]

I was debating with a guy at work who was pushing the "Notre Dame just needs to join the ACC" line. He was saying they'd probably get screwed this year. My response was that it may not make that much difference if Notre Dame was in the ACC but was in the same division as Clemson. Let's say Notre Dame was in the Atlantic with Clemson. The Irish go 11-1 with a loss to Clemson. If Clemson goes 12-0, the Irish have virtually no shot to get in at 11-1 because Clemson wins the Atlantic and goes to the ACC title game. Or if Clemson drops a game and also goes 11-1, I'd say Clemson gets the division title nod over ND because they won the head-to-head during the season. Or FSU would get in at 11-1 if they were the team to beat Clemson. Now if ND was in the Coastal, they'd have more of a shot. They probably come out better than all of those teams, and have a shot at Clemson again in the ACC title. My point is, joining the ACC isn't a cure all. It may help in certain scenarios, but it could also make life even harder for a one-loss Irish team, depending on what division they're in.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="et" dir="ltr">Wins vs current FEI top 30 <a href="https://t.co/JLK1sCjfBQ">https://t.co/JLK1sCjfBQ</a>

3: Notre Dame
2: USC, Ole Miss, Alabama, Utah, Florida, UCLA, LSU, Stanford</p>— Brian Fremeau (@bcfremeau) <a href="https://twitter.com/bcfremeau/status/661207395239112704">November 2, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Whiskeyjack]

New F/+ rankings: (1) Clemson; (2) 'Bama; (3) LSU; (4) Michigan; (5) ND.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

New FEI rankings: (1) Clemson; (2) ND; (3) 'Bama; (4) LSU; (5) Stanford.

 

[BobbyMac]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="et" dir="ltr">Wins vs current FEI top 30 <a href="https://t.co/JLK1sCjfBQ">https://t.co/JLK1sCjfBQ</a>

3: Notre Dame
2: USC, Ole Miss, Alabama, Utah, Florida, UCLA, LSU, Stanford</p>— Brian Fremeau (@bcfremeau) <a href="https://twitter.com/bcfremeau/status/661207395239112704">November 2, 2015</a></blockquote>
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So glad you turned me on to FEI Whiskey. Their weekly W/L and score projections should be called the ESP report.

They have ND with the #1 SOS BTW.

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[GoIrish41]

Team...............losses......Opponent

AAC

(18) Houston........(0)..........UCinn
(15) Memphis.......(0)..........Navy

ACC

(3) Clemson..........(0)..........(17) FSU
(17) FSU...............(1)..........@ (3) Clemson
(21) UNC..............(1).......... Duke


B1G

(1) tOSU................(0).............Minn
(6) MSU.................(0).............Neb
(10) Iowa...............(0).............@ IU


Big 12

(2) Baylor...............(0)..............@ KSU
(5) TCU..................(0)..............@ (12) OSU
(12) OSU................(0)..............(5) TCU
(14) OU..................(1)..............ISU


PAC-12

(13) Utah................(1)...............@ Washington


SEC

(11) Florida.............(1)...............Vandy
(4) LSU.................(0)...............@ Bama
(7) Bama................(1)...............LSU

& ND's best friend...

(19) Ole Miss............(2)..............Ark


Opponents Week 10 schedule:

Texas vs. KU
UVa @ Miami
GT - BYE
UMass vs. Akron
Clemson vs. FSU
Navy @ Memphis
SC vs Zona
Temple @ SMU
Pitt vs ND
WF - BYE
BC vs NDSt
Stanford @ Col

I'm predicting some important losses for this week will include:

TCU to OkieSt
Bama to LSU

Also of import:

Memphis to Navy
FSU to Clemson


BIG schedules are garbage this week.

 

[ACamp1900]

How the living hell is Michigan ranked in the top four in any ranking...

 

[RDU Irish]

I'm not sure Bama/LSU matters - either of them wins the SEC they are in the playoff with one loss or less. Ole Miss or some East team pulling the CCG out of their rear are the only routes I see to SEC getting left out.

LSU, MSST, CHSO, Auburn for Bama (hey, kudos for scheduling that FCS team in late November)

Bama, Ark, Ole Miss and TAMU are a much tougher row to hoe for LSU. In that sense, I think I want LSU to win b/c they have a better chance of dropping one later.

 

[irishfan]

I'm not sure Bama/LSU matters - either of them wins the SEC they are in the playoff with one loss or less. Ole Miss or some East team pulling the CCG out of their rear are the only routes I see to SEC getting left out.

LSU, MSST, CHSO, Auburn for Bama (hey, kudos for scheduling that FCS team in late November)

Bama, Ark, Ole Miss and TAMU are a much tougher row to hoe for LSU. In that sense, I think I want LSU to win b/c they have a better chance of dropping one later.

Ole Miss could cause complete chaos by winning the SEC West. If they go 3-0 (vs. Arkansas, vs. LSU, at Miss St) then they'll win the SEC West and maybe keep an 11-1 Bama or 10-1 LSU out of the playoffs. It would be hard to justify putting a team who couldn't win their division in over a conference champion.

If Bama and Ole Miss beat LSU (both are at home), then what will the committee do with 11-1 Bama, 10-2 Ole Miss winning the West and 11-1 Florida winning the East?

 

[Whiskeyjack]

How the living hell is Michigan ranked in the top four in any ranking...

Jim Harbl. That is all.