'14 OH QB DeShone Kizer (Notre Dame Signee)

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If this kid learns how to go through his progressions, he might be really, really good. He looks like a NFL QB with size, speed, arm size, and pocket awareness. He might be a superstar and idk if Malik will get his job back. Well see.
 
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I love the leadership this kid is showing by taking the fault for the dropped passes. Saying that, in the rain, it was his job to put the ball on the receivers' chests and taking full responsibility for the inaccuracy really says a lot about the young man's character.

Hands... but yeah.....
 
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If this kid learns how to go through his progressions, he might be really, really good. He looks like a NFL QB with size, speed, arm size, and pocket awareness. He might be a superstar and idk if Malik will get his job back. Well see.

That said, ability to correctly go through progressions is what makes or breaks about 1,000 qbs, so it's a big if. But he looks the part of a superstar physically.
 

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That said, ability to correctly go through progressions is what makes or breaks about 1,000 qbs, so it's a big if. But he looks the part of a superstar physically.

Still has trouble throwing the intermediate and deep outs. And seems to lack a touch on the ball at times. But both of those are pretty par for the course, for an underclassman.
 

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Ranked 14th among the 25 QBs of the teams in the AP poll (Golson 15th)

http://sports.yahoo.com/photos/top-...-dame-v-clemson-20151004-020151-908--spt.html

Normally I'd be ok with that, but Kizer has looked WAY better than Cardale Jones, as have several QB's this year that are ranked behind him. He is most certainly NOT the #6 QB in the top 25. I also think Kizer should be ranked ahead of Kelly, Rosen and Watson. Yes, Watson got the W, but it wasn't because of him. Kizer ended up with the better game, and should've had a WAY better game had our receivers brought their hands with them to Death Valley.
 

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He really needs to start out Saturday better than he has his previous starts. He needs to really focus on the little things like footwork until he gets into a rhythm. Once he gets the blood flowing he seems to settle in but we can't have balls at the feet of open WR's this weekend.
 
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Umm.. left side vs right side, crazy

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Umm.. left side vs right side, crazy

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Bubble screens 1st thru 4th down... all game, every game. If my calculations are correct, after the Temple game have FedEx drop off the NC trophy at the Gug on Monday, cancel the rest of the season and lets golf!.
 

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I won't lie, Thought this season was f*cked when Malik went down. Glad to be proven wrong.
 

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He's got one flaw, he needs to reel in his desire to win every play. Some you just gotta dump the ball and live for the next play. With that said, he's got ice in his fuckin veins. So cool and calm. Even on the last play, as it was stripped, he calmly grabbed it and went back to the way the play was called.
 

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Zaire is still my guy, but damn if Kizer isn't as cool as a cucumber. I'm glad he stepped up to the plate, he's done a pretty good job given the fact he was #3 in the Spring and really struggled there.
 

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I love DeShone, being from my hometown, but please protect the ball in the red zone. I can't complain really, but he has to remember that 3 is better than nothing.
 

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I love DeShone, being from my hometown, but please protect the ball in the red zone. I can't complain really, but he has to remember that 3 is better than nothing.
Only one of the ints was a true mistake. The other was on a wr that is terrible at winning his position.
 

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1 turnover was his bad, the other was poor officiating when Fuller got mugged.
 

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Only one of the ints was a true mistake. The other was on a wr that is terrible at winning his position.

I do agree, Fuller got molested there, but the int's in the red zone can't happen. You can't just suppose the refs are going to call a penalty. Forcing the ball in there usually turns out bad, well at least for ND lol. Even still you guys are right, I just have watched too many ND games to know this shut is going to be I happen lol. I actually was cringing on both played down there anticipated that something bad was about to happen. Dump it down, or throw it away, but at the very least come away with 3 when down that close.
 

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Loved his game and he played lights out. However, those 2 missed screen plays - 1 where he whiffed on the throw and then the other where he threw it too low (a good DL play tho) - coupled with his arm flapping in the end zone. I have to think the arm flapping really lit a fire in Temple. If "ifs and buts" were candy and nuts and all that... Overall a great game by him-the real INT, IMO, is no big deal.
 

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I do agree, Fuller got molested there, but the int's in the red zone can't happen. You can't just suppose the refs are going to call a penalty. Forcing the ball in there usually turns out bad, well at least for ND lol. Even still you guys are right, I just have watched too many ND games to know this shut is going to be I happen lol. I actually was cringing on both played down there anticipated that something bad was about to happen. Dump it down, or throw it away, but at the very least come away with 3 when down that close.
It wasn't forced. That's how a slant route is supposed to be run, thrown, and defended. Sometimes the other team just makes a play.
 

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I do agree, Fuller got molested there, but the int's in the red zone can't happen. You can't just suppose the refs are going to call a penalty. Forcing the ball in there usually turns out bad, well at least for ND lol. Even still you guys are right, I just have watched too many ND games to know this shut is going to be I happen lol. I actually was cringing on both played down there anticipated that something bad was about to happen. Dump it down, or throw it away, but at the very least come away with 3 when down that close.

The second interception was a result of what happens when the receiver doesn't use his hands to catch the ball and tries to use his body. Fuller is really bad at not catching the ball with his hands and I am fairly sure all of his touchdown catches this year were caught with his body
 

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The second interception was a result of what happens when the receiver doesn't use his hands to catch the ball and tries to use his body. Fuller is really bad at not catching the ball with his hands and I am fairly sure all of his touchdown catches this year were caught with his body

This. I actually was going to put that in my post as well. I put it on Fuller more than anybody else, but everybody knows he doesn't use his hands well, so don't force it in there knowing that. He made up for it though on that final td drive. Again, I am not necessarily saying that it was Kizer's fault, or even Fullers, I am just saying better decisions need to be made down there. This is something that I can get on board with that gkirish has harped on about red zone offense. Gotta execute down there, and you have to protect the ball.
 
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Only one of the ints was a true mistake. The other was on a wr that is terrible at winning his position.

1 turnover was his bad, the other was poor officiating when Fuller got mugged.

I do agree, Fuller got molested there, but the int's in the red zone can't happen. You can't just suppose the refs are going to call a penalty. Forcing the ball in there usually turns out bad, well at least for ND lol. Even still you guys are right, I just have watched too many ND games to know this shut is going to be I happen lol. I actually was cringing on both played down there anticipated that something bad was about to happen. Dump it down, or throw it away, but at the very least come away with 3 when down that close.

Balki Johnson and Yankee T-Town Johnson are right! That defensive back had his right arm on him the whole play, (not the left which reached around and made a nice deflection,) BECAUSE the defensive back was flat out impeding Will from running his route WHILE THE BALL WAS IN THE AIR. I don't care if the db had his eyes on the ball. The interference started before the ball could even be contested.

Will was getting raped on calls all night, except the two times they called it. Did you see those? Had they not been called the officials would have been suspended pending an investigation, and fired thereafter. As it was they shouldn't be allowed to ref Pop Warner!

Also, on the other red zone interception, the receiver was destroyed while the ball was in the air, but what is important is that he was held on the line. Held.

Re-watch those couple of plays in particular.

(Fuck watching Temple's O-line on almost every play [holding, hands to the face], etc.!)


Wow! I needed a deep breath of fresh air!

Loved his game and he played lights out. However, those 2 missed screen plays - 1 where he whiffed on the throw and then the other where he threw it too low (a good DL play tho) - coupled with his arm flapping in the end zone. I have to think the arm flapping really lit a fire in Temple. If "ifs and buts" were candy and nuts and all that... Overall a great game by him-the real INT, IMO, is no big deal.

DK still has to remember his footwork, no doubt. He has that funny tendency to throw with an exaggerated baseball-like motion without his feet all the way under him. He is getting better, but it still comes back. Except when he throws on a roll out. That is a thing of beauty.

To your point : I have to say, as I watched closely, Temple had been reaching out all night, when they were too late to record a solid hit, on the sidelines and out of bounds, and after the touchdown had been scored. Earlier De Shone had been pommeled on the sidelines, out of bounds, by the second player and you could see him spring up and ready. The Temple player looked at him. Right he should.

DeShone looks like a nice young student athlete, regular features, sunny disposition, obviously intelligent. But don't be fooled; this kid is a force of nature physically. And he has a real warriors mentality.

I don't know if you remember the play and its aftermath, but the Irish were driving and DK was doing well with his feet. He ran to the right side on a designed run, and Matakevich moved across the field to get in position before Kizer made it to the goal line, ready to put on a 'hit.' Kizer dropped his shoulder and put Matakevich on his back! Hard. You could tell, because it was one of those when the 'hit-ee' bounced right up automatically to show he was really okay. You could see the look on Matakevich's face. He had a whole new understand about De Shone Kizer. Kizer can HIT, I am telling you!

Here is where I would normally say I told you so to everybody, (because I am so rarely right about anything!)

DK took it to a whole new level last night. He took the team on his back. He was what, responsible for 94% of the offensive production?

And if I have made any error recently on this site, the most grievous as well as obvious was underrating Temple's team speed. Yet a 6'5", 235 lb., quarterback outran an (that) entire defense, including three defensive back that all had a decent shot at him, for a 79 yard score? Please note, that unlike some other great quarterback runs, DK never let off the jets or ran out of gas!

You are right. Maybe DK does try to win the game on every play. But with his infectious spirit, doesn't that have a positive effort moving forward with this team? I mean a few other players seemingly could benefit from that problem!

Postscript : Herbie had an interesting comment about DK. He mentioned how DK had two (almost three) come from behind wins in his first seven games played. (Counting UVA where he took over.) He said that was more than some quarterbacks have in a career. (Think about how many ND quarterbacks recently have mastered that.) Herbie's final statement was that as a quarterback, a guy either has it, or he doesn't. Herbie went out of his way to make it clear that not only did DK have a load of it, but that it was in his DNA, and spreading to the DNA of the team.
 
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This. I actually was going to put that in my post as well. I put it on Fuller more than anybody else, but everybody knows he doesn't use his hands well, so don't force it in there knowing that. He made up for it though on that final td drive. Again, I am not necessarily saying that it was Kizer's fault, or even Fullers, I am just saying better decisions need to be made down there. This is something that I can get on board with that gkirish has harped on about red zone offense. Gotta execute down there, and you have to protect the ball.

Until Fuller proves that he can use his hands to catch the ball consistently, the slant should not be a part of his route tree
 

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Him, Watson, and the dude from Miami who scored for the win, we're listed on ESPN as the impact players of the week.
 

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I love that he seems calmer as the situation gets more tense. In fact, if the team could show the same determination when we are ahead, we would blow out many of these teams.

My one complaint about DK, which is minor, is I didn't like the bird flapping motion after his touchdowns. I love a good celebration. But to mimic the other teams celebration strikes me as a kind of taunting. Does anyone know, is that a Temple thing? It reminded me of the dirty birds celebration for the Atlanta Falcons a few years ago.
 

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I don't know if he can be rattled . Kiser is one of the best QB 's in college with his composure.
 

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I love that he seems calmer as the situation gets more tense. In fact, if the team could show the same determination when we are ahead, we would blow out many of these teams.

My one complaint about DK, which is minor, is I didn't like the bird flapping motion after his touchdowns. I love a good celebration. But to mimic the other teams celebration strikes me as a kind of taunting. Does anyone know, is that a Temple thing? It reminded me of the dirty birds celebration for the Atlanta Falcons a few years ago.

I thought Temple seemed a little aggressive on some of their finished tackles. There was always a little extra edge/push after the tackle. I don't think it's a bad thing, but I thought a few of our players took an exception to it at times. I thought that's why Kizer pulled out that celebration. They also seemed to bark a lot after the play.

I don't know if he can be rattled . Kiser is one of the best QB 's in college with his composure.

Dude, its Kizer
 
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