Fermi Paradox solved? (Possible evidence of Alien life)

[IrishinSyria]

Have We Detected Megastructures Built By Aliens Around A Distant Star? | Popular Science

In a recent paper, researchers have ruled out the possibility of faulty data or telescope jostling. Something appears to be blocking out the light, but it's not a planet, and the star is too old to be surrounded by the rings of debris that tend to circle around younger stars. Neither do the scientists think it could be caused by a recent collision.

That leaves just a few hypotheses. One is a cloud of comets that got pulled into orbit by a migrating star--if the comets are breaking up as they revolve around the star, that could cause the irregular pattern of dimming. The paper notes that this is the most promising explanation.

There is one other hypothesis, however.

“Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider," Penn State astronomer Jason Wright told The Atlantic, "but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build.”

 

[bobbyok1]

Oh boy

 

[Old Man Mike]

It's not crazy. Some time ago Freeman Dyson dreamt up the idea of the Dyson Sphere to imagine how a civilization would attempt to capture 100% of the energy from its star, and lesser geometric forms would collect percentages of that. A civilization which was advanced beyond ours was classified by the Russian Kardashev as a Type II civilization in energy use if they attempted Dyson Sphere technology {we're Kardashev Type I}.

Also, there have been many persons in the military intelligence community who examined the UFO phenomenon over the decades between 1947 and 1967, who considered the Fermi Paradox solved long ago {see the book UFOs and Government, 600pp of documentation from the FOIA mountain of hunted documents ... I wrote about half of that book myself.}

 

[BeauBenken]

Oh boy

 

[IrishinSyria]

It's not crazy. Some time ago Freeman Dyson dreamt up the idea of the Dyson Sphere to imagine how a civilization would attempt to capture 100% of the energy from its star, and lesser geometric forms would collect percentages of that. A civilization which was advanced beyond ours was classified by the Russian Kardashev as a Type II civilization in energy use if they attempted Dyson Sphere technology {we're Kardashev Type I}.

Also, there have been many persons in the military intelligence community who examined the UFO phenomenon over the decades between 1947 and 1967, who considered the Fermi Paradox solved long ago {see the book UFOs and Government, 600pp of documentation from the FOIA mountain of hunted documents ... I wrote about half of that book myself.}

Yeah, the full article mentions Dyson Spheres...

 

[Rhode Irish]

I for one will welcome our new alien overlords.

 

[Irish YJ]

I for one will welcome our new alien overlords.

I just hope they are conservative and Colts fans. Anything else is just plain evil.

 

[Rhode Irish]

I just hope they are conservative and Colts fans. Anything else is just plain evil.

I think the chances these aliens turn out to be white guys from Indiana is pretty remote, but who can say, really?

 

[Irish YJ]

Alien Abduction in Brownsburg, Indiana

I think the chances these aliens turn out to be white guys from Indiana is pretty remote, but who can say, really?

 

[Circa]

I just hope they are conservative and Colts fans. Anything else is just plain evil.

Geez..
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[Veritate Duce Progredi]

It's not crazy. Some time ago Freeman Dyson dreamt up the idea of the Dyson Sphere to imagine how a civilization would attempt to capture 100% of the energy from its star, and lesser geometric forms would collect percentages of that. A civilization which was advanced beyond ours was classified by the Russian Kardashev as a Type II civilization in energy use if they attempted Dyson Sphere technology {we're Kardashev Type I}.

Also, there have been many persons in the military intelligence community who examined the UFO phenomenon over the decades between 1947 and 1967, who considered the Fermi Paradox solved long ago {see the book UFOs and Government, 600pp of documentation from the FOIA mountain of hunted documents ... I wrote about half of that book myself.}

OMM,

Do you have any book suggestions that discuss the Dyson Sphere and the Kardashev classification? Sounds like some interesting reading.

 

[kmoose]

I think the chances these aliens turn out to be white guys from Indiana is pretty remote, but who can say, really?

How else would you explain Jeff Gordon dominating NASCAR for any amount of time at all?

 

[Irish YJ]

How else would explain Jeff Gordon dominating NASCAR for any amount of time at all?

Larry Bird, Michael Jackson (well, he was kinda white).... , Axl Rose, Letterman... definitely aliens.

 

[dshans]

I for one will welcome our new alien overlords.

I, for one, am disappointed in your all-too-easy, all-too-trusting acquiescence.

 

[Cackalacky]

Yeah boy. So interesting.

 

[connor_in]

Can't believe this had not been posted yet.

 

[Old Man Mike]

VDP: not sure that I can deliver. The Dyson Sphere idea and the Kardashev classifications aren't topics which demand a lot of writing space and so occupy small pages in many different books and papers. On the POP level, Ian Ridpath's "World's Beyond" is a nice easy read which talks a little about Dyson's model and overviews the contexts of SETI.

"Communication with Extraterrestrial Intelligence CETI" is a series of chapters by different authors edited by Sagan. There is a chapter/discussion titled "Astroengineering Activity" wherein Kardashev and others write. {There is also a completely erroneous thinking appendix by Gaylord Simpson showing astounding wrongheadedness about structural evolution of advanced life, so be warned of that.

There is a translated Soviet document called "Extraterrestrial Civilizations", edited by G M Tovmasyan, wherein people like Shklovskii and Kardashev present papers aimed at SETI research.

I'd just go to the internet and search Dyson Sphere and N S Kardashev there.

 

[Circa]

How else would you explain Jeff Gordon dominating NASCAR for any amount of time at all?

Walked in Indianapolis much? lol... serious race car stuff going .. on

 

[GATTACA!]

Can we just point the Hubble at it and find out?

 

[Tejas]

Where's the wars?

It's in the stars, ya'll - Bubba Fett

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Can we just point the Hubble at it and find out?

Hubble's dead, man. It's going to be replaced by the James Webb in a few years.

 

[kmoose]

Fermi paradox solved? *yawn*

Wake me up when someone solves the FEMALE paradox....

 

[IrishinSyria]

Question for the posters of faith here: would the discovery of intelligent life elsewhere have any impact on your faith?

 

[Old Man Mike]

Institutionally, the Catholic Church has made it clear since Pope Pius in the 1950s that the existence of ETI presents no problems at all for Catholic Theology. GOD's design goals in the Creation are met by any self-reflective intelligent species with a soul. Love decisions freely made are just as good on Tau Ceti delta as on Sol gamma {Earth}.

For me, such discovery increases Faith rather than subtracts, as it indicates that highly advanced technologies can be governed by free-willing intelligences so as not to destroy their societies nor even thwart their advancement. GOD therefore seems to have provided a level playing field wherein the spiritual can counteract the animal.

 

[Cali_domer]

Question for the posters of faith here: would the discovery of intelligent life elsewhere have any impact on your faith?

Nope, not at all.

 

[BobbyMac]

Fell asleep before Coast to Coast the last two nights. I know George has been all over this.

Hopefully it's not the Borg's hive.

 

[ACamp1900]

Fell asleep before Coast to Coast the last two nights. I know George has been all over this.

Hopefully it's not the Borg's hive.

Don't feel bad... Most people do fall asleep before three in the morning....

 

[no.1IrishFan]

Question for the posters of faith here: would the discovery of intelligent life elsewhere have any impact on your faith?

If the overwhelming amount of empirical evidence here on Earth hasn't done it.....

I will say, however, that my opinion on the matter COULD be changed. I just require some sort of evidence for the existence of a god that doesn't require me to throw out logic and reason for it to be true.

(Cue the meme's where I think I'm intellectually superior to believers lol)

 

[Irish YJ]

I've always struggled with....

Where did the Megaverse come from.

Did God create it?

If so, who created God, and who created those that created God... infinite...

Also, I think it's just plain stupid for us to believe that we are the only intelligent life out there given the size of the Megaverse,,,,, if one believes in simple and logical mathematics/statistics...

All that said, I do believe in a hire being (God). I'm also pretty sure I'm not smart enough to understand who/how/why... perhaps I'll get some answers in the next life (assuming...)

 

[Cali_domer]

I used faith and reason as spring board to my strong beliefs today(I was a very vocal Atheist in my 20's).After much reading and studying I just didn't have enough faith to be an atheist.