'13 FL RB Tarean Folston (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

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Jayson smith was a hell of a running back in high school.



But he needs to stay on the defensive side of the ball exclusively.

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Russell was too. Do we have enough depth at corner? Probably not. I hope (and believe) we have all the talent we need at RB. QB depth is more of a concern with Zaire running it so much, but it seems he has learned to get what he can and slip out of bounds.
 

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He's 6ft-.5ins, 220lbs. By comparison, Josh Adams is listed at 6-1.5, 212lbs. Prosise is plenty big enough.

Didn't realize he was 220 instead of 200. He looks pretty tall on TV so makes him look a little slimmer. I heard they took Dexter Williams' redshirt off too.
 

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Didn't realize he was 220 instead of 200. He looks pretty tall on TV so makes him look a little slimmer. I heard they took Dexter Williams' redshirt off too.

He ran the ball a few times in the 4th quarter.
 

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Big loss for the team, and best wishes to TF in rehabbing effort.
Need to find an extra ball carrier or two, CJ doesn't strike me as a 25 carry/game back.
Amazing how quickly a position can change. Depth is everything.
 

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Big loss for the team, and best wishes to TF in rehabbing effort.
Need to find an extra ball carrier or two, CJ doesn't strike me as a 25 carry/game back.
Amazing how quickly a position can change. Depth is everything.

We have 3 guys right now in rotation with Adams, Williams, and Procise.

We could easily get Carlisle back into the mix if need be.

This should be a great selling point for RBs in the '16 class.

Did Tarean tear his knee his Sr. yr in HS? I swear I remember something about it...

I pray for a speedy recovery for our speedy back.
 

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Would they consider throwing Coleman in the backfield?

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I hate that Folston is out. He's a star and this offense is better with him.

That said, I don't think we're needing to panic. My guess is Prosise/Adams with Williams giving them breaks and Anderson coming in on select 3rd downs and in garbage time. Throw in the jet sweet from Hunter and Brown here and there to add a wrinkle and, of course, the read option with Malik. That's a lot of running options still.

If someone goes down, I'm sure Brent, Amir, or someone else will take reps.
 

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Number of (non-QB) carries from last year.

Tarean Folston - 175
Greg Bryant - 54
Cam McDaniel - 77
C.J. Prosise - 10
Amir Carlisle - 7
Torii Hunter Jr. - 2
Chris Brown - 1

We have just as many options this year. Adams and Williams are young. But RB is one of the spots where you can deal with youth, assuming you're surrounded by veterans. Malik is the only non-veteran on the offense. He's currently playing like one.
 

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We have 3 guys right now in rotation with Adams, Williams, and Procise.

We could easily get Carlisle back into the mix if need be.

This should be a great selling point for RBs in the '16 class.

Did Tarean tear his knee his Sr. yr in HS? I swear I remember something about it...

I pray for a speedy recovery for our speedy back.

I don't think so. He played in the Army all-star game (as a corner).
 

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Not that it completely matters, but was it an MCL or an ACL? I thought it looked like MCL when he went down (Based on the angle the knee took) and some people have said MCL, but others have said ACL. MCL is easier to come back from I guess, so that's why I'm curious.
 

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Not that it completely matters, but was it an MCL or an ACL? I thought it looked like MCL when he went down (Based on the angle the knee took) and some people have said MCL, but others have said ACL. MCL is easier to come back from I guess, so that's why I'm curious.

Apparently the University corrected Kelly after the conference. Kelly said MCL, ND's saying ACL. per ESPN.

Frack.
 

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Get well 25. This is just a bump in the road. We anxiously await your return!

Yeh doggonnit this guy will be missed-o line o line o line- gonna have to make room for the young pups to run. All but a perfect day except for this bad news.
 

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Justin Brent really needs to get the RB position down, because we're not making the playoffs with two 19 year old RBs taking half of our carries IMO.

Why? There have been plenty of teams in the past that were championship contenders with freshmen running backs.

Georgia in 2012 started 2 true freshmen running backs (Gurshall) and were 1 play away from playing us in Miami. Alabama that same year had true freshman TJ Yeldon splitting reps with Eddie Lacy. Auburn won a national title in 2010 with Michael Dyer (true freshman) as the starter. Royce Freeman was the primary back for Oregon last year, true freshman, and Tyner before him was a major contributor. Nick Chubb last year. Dalvin Cook last year. The list goes on.
 

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Get well TF! We will keep kicking ass until your return!
 

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Why? There have been plenty of teams in the past that were championship contenders with freshmen running backs.

Georgia in 2012 started 2 true freshmen running backs (Gurshall) and were 1 play away from playing us in Miami. Alabama that same year had true freshman TJ Yeldon splitting reps with Eddie Lacy. Auburn won a national title in 2010 with Michael Dyer (true freshman) as the starter. Royce Freeman was the primary back for Oregon last year, true freshman, and Tyner before him was a major contributor. Nick Chubb last year. Dalvin Cook last year. The list goes on.

Yes, the list goes on at places where they don't have to play school. Auburn was sued by a football graduate for being a functional illiterate. Same school had an All-American RB with an ACT of 7.

ND freshman have to take Freshman Year of Studies. The TEAMS you mentioned don't have such a requirement.

For someone who professes to be a fan of ND, you don't seem to have a clue about The University and what it takes to a successful student at ND. Keep in mind that ND student athletes have to compete in the classroom every schoolday where the competition is as keen or keener that what they face each weekend on the gridiron.


Read and learn.

The First Year of Studies // University of Notre Dame
 

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Get well Tarean and as you currently can't be hitting bodies, Hit Those Books!
 

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Yes, the list goes on at places where they don't have to play school. Auburn was sued by a football graduate for being a functional illiterate. Same school had an All-American RB with an ACT of 7.

ND freshman have to take Freshman Year of Studies. The TEAMS you mentioned don't have such a requirement.

For someone who professes to be a fan of ND, you don't seem to have a clue about The University and what it takes to a successful student at ND. Keep in mind that ND student athletes have to compete in the classroom every schoolday where the competition is as keen or keener that what they face each weekend on the gridiron.


Read and learn.

The First Year of Studies // University of Notre Dame
First Year of Studies isn't really anything. It's just a fancy name for Notre Dame's policy that you don't pick a major (and thus don't enroll in the College of Arts and Letters, Mendoza College of Business, etc.) until sophomore year. Most freshman take pretty basic courses, like first year composition, principles of philosophy, etc. Your point that Notre Dame is more rigorous than most power five universities is absolutely correct, but FYS has nothing to do with it.
 

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First Year of Studies isn't really anything. It's just a fancy name for Notre Dame's policy that you don't pick a major (and thus don't enroll in the College of Arts and Letters, Mendoza College of Business, etc.) until sophomore year. Most freshman take pretty basic courses, like first year composition, principles of philosophy, etc. Your point that Notre Dame is more rigorous than most power five universities is absolutely correct, but FYS has nothing to do with it.

That depends on your point of view. First Years Studies might be Rocket Science next to Kinesiology, we'd have to ask a Michigan grad.
 

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First Year of Studies isn't really anything. It's just a fancy name for Notre Dame's policy that you don't pick a major (and thus don't enroll in the College of Arts and Letters, Mendoza College of Business, etc.) until sophomore year. Most freshman take pretty basic courses, like first year composition, principles of philosophy, etc. Your point that Notre Dame is more rigorous than most power five universities is absolutely correct, but FYS has nothing to do with it.

How many freshman football players at AU, UA, UGA, and FSU do think are taking philosophy?

Much less with the competition that ND athletes face in the classroom.

At those schools athletes can stay eligible as freshman just do to the dropouts/flunk out rate in their class. That cushion doesn't exist at ND.

Tonight I heard on the news that the nation's average SAT score was slightly over 1300 on the three part exam. Ten years ago the ND freshman class average SAT score on the two part exam was around 1350.

ND freshman football players have a more rigorous academic environment than any of the school's cited by balki. They don't have the time available for sport that athletes that don't play school do.
 

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I brought this up earlier, but didn't really see any additional input on the matter, but is no one else worried about the pass-protection impact this loss will have? After all, isn't that the largest crux for young RBs under Kelly's watch? I know that Kelly said William's progression will be accelerated, but that doesn't mean this isn't a net negative in that department. Thank God Malik is a big, mobile dude - I think he's going to need that extra padding much more so now :/
 

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I brought this up earlier, but didn't really see any additional input on the matter, but is no one else worried about the pass-protection impact this loss will have? After all, isn't that the largest crux for young RBs under Kelly's watch? I know that Kelly said William's progression will be accelerated, but that doesn't mean this isn't a net negative in that department. Thank God Malik is a big, mobile dude - I think he's going to need that extra padding much more so now :/
I think it's a concern, but there are ways to fudge it. We could use a tight end as an extra lineman, h-back, or even line him up next to Malik in obvious passing situations. Watching all of the summer/fall press conferences and media coverage, it sounds like Prosise was getting significant first team reps, so hopefully he'll be where he needs to be in his development. I think people are equating Prosise to a freshman running back and that's a mistake. Yes, it's his first year at the position, but he's been with the first team offense and has been around the program long enough that I'm not especially worried.
 

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I brought this up earlier, but didn't really see any additional input on the matter, but is no one else worried about the pass-protection impact this loss will have? After all, isn't that the largest crux for young RBs under Kelly's watch? I know that Kelly said William's progression will be accelerated, but that doesn't mean this isn't a net negative in that department. Thank God Malik is a big, mobile dude - I think he's going to need that extra padding much more so now :/

Kelly raved about Josh Adams' success in picking up pass protection responsibilities from Day 1. (not that Kelly has raved about it since day 1, but Kelly raved that Adams' came right in and picked up pass pro right from the get go) So I don't think it's a great concern. A concern, probably, but not a significant one.
 
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Prosise and Adams are competent.

Kelly mentioned using Anderson who is quite good at pass protection, specifically for that.
 

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I think it's a concern, but there are ways to fudge it. We could use a tight end as an extra lineman, h-back, or even line him up next to Malik in obvious passing situations. Watching all of the summer/fall press conferences and media coverage, it sounds like Prosise was getting significant first team reps, so hopefully he'll be where he needs to be in his development. I think people are equating Prosise to a freshman running back and that's a mistake. Yes, it's his first year at the position, but he's been with the first team offense and has been around the program long enough that I'm not especially worried.

Kelly raved about Josh Adams' success in picking up pass protection responsibilities from Day 1. (not that Kelly has raved about it since day 1, but Kelly raved that Adams' came right in and picked up pass pro right from the get go) So I don't think it's a great concern. A concern, probably, but not a significant one.

Great input - sounds encouraging. Thanks, guys.
 

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Watching the showtime series sucks to see him hurt and being consoled by his mom. I forgot about Onwualu played some RB in HS as well. You think he gets a look? Maybe in Redzone or passing downs? Big athletic guy
 

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Watching the showtime series sucks to see him hurt and being consoled by his mom. I forgot about Onwualu played some RB in HS as well. You think he gets a look? Maybe in Redzone or passing downs? Big athletic guy


No. He will only play LB. He still has a lot to learn.


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I think it's a concern, but there are ways to fudge it. We could use a tight end as an extra lineman, h-back, or even line him up next to Malik in obvious passing situations. Watching all of the summer/fall press conferences and media coverage, it sounds like Prosise was getting significant first team reps, so hopefully he'll be where he needs to be in his development. I think people are equating Prosise to a freshman running back and that's a mistake. Yes, it's his first year at the position, but he's been with the first team offense and has been around the program long enough that I'm not especially worried.

You've worked for ESPN in accounting, finance, or whatever, for a year or more. You've watched their games on TV since puberty, do you really think you're ready to do ESPN play by play analysis?

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Folston spent two full years in college ball learning his craft, not 8 weeks of practice.
 

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If anyone paid close attention, Prosise was near two long TD runs. One came in the 3rd quarter when he was met downfield by our entire OL and they pushed the pile another 4-5 yards. If Elmer continues to push outward/clear out his guy, Prosise slants toward the right pylon and scores a very long TD.

A couple plays later, if Prosise makes a cut just a little bit sooner, he's gone for the TD instead of getting tripped up.

I only say this because I think Prosise is a major weapon. The only thing I don't know is if any of our backs will be counted on in a 4th & 2 situation. I like all of our backs to pick up big chunks but can they take the small gains in front of them?

I wouldn't be surprised to see a longer TD run against Virginia. Not that Virginia is bad but we were so close to breaking so many more.
 

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Watching the showtime series sucks to see him hurt and being consoled by his mom. I forgot about Onwualu played some RB in HS as well. You think he gets a look? Maybe in Redzone or passing downs? Big athletic guy

you won't see anyone move positions to RB....we have 3 right now...jb if we are desperate but james has been receiving hefty praise from BK that we wouldn't f it up
 
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