'16 MI OLB Daelin Hayes (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[Big23Head]

Anna asked a source "very close" to Hayes if a flip could happen, reply was:

 

[irishknight35]

Anna asked a source "very close" to Hayes if a flip could happen, reply was:

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Yeah, as juniors? Not even close. Jaylon is much better than Manti was as a junior. Manti's senior season in terms of big plays+leadership+consistency was out of control, but Jaylon is ahead of the curve at this point.

The biggest difference is we only get Jaylon for 3 years, so hopefully his Junior year is as Epic or moreso than Manti's senior year. Also, I'm fairly certain I've seen pics of Jaylon with his GF, so we are good there as well.


EDIT*** HAPPY DANCE for possibly getting Daelin

 

[Bluto]

Yeah, as juniors? Not even close. Jaylon is much better than Manti was as a junior. Manti's senior season in terms of big plays+leadership+consistency was out of control, but Jaylon is ahead of the curve at this point.

Yep. Jaylon has looked better than Manti as a freshman and sophomore and I expect that trend to continue. Hopefully he also sees how an additional year of coaching/experience prior to going pro can pay big dividends like it did for Manti, Eiffert and Martin. Looks like Day and Stanely will be added to that list as well.

 

[Henges24]

Yep. Jaylon has looked better than Manti as a freshman and sophomore and I expect that trend to continue. Hopefully he also sees how an additional year of coaching/experience prior to going pro can pay big dividends like it did for Manti, Eiffert and Martin. Looks like Day and Stanely will be added to that list as well.

Right but if Jaylon plays like he did vs Texas all year long, you can't blame him for jumping to the NFL.

 

[ThePiombino]

The biggest difference is we only get Jaylon for 3 years, so hopefully his Junior year is as Epic or moreso than Manti's senior year. Also, I'm fairly certain I've seen pics of Jaylon with his GF, so we are good there as well.


EDIT*** HAPPY DANCE for possibly getting Daelin

While I don't EXPECT Jaylon to stay for his senior year, I would not be surprised in the least if he did. He is, after all, cut from a special cloth.

 

[woolybug25]

While I don't EXPECT Jaylon to stay for his senior year, I would not be surprised in the least if he did. He is, after all, cut from a special cloth.

What I like is that our staff isn't trying to sell a better draft position to our guys. They instead, are pointing out their physical/skill weaknesses and giving them detailed plans on how they will address them to make them better pros. Stanley talked about it this year.

It's more important to be ready for the pros so you can stay in the league longer. Getting drafted high doesn't guarantee you a career, and know that the big contracts for top picks aren't there, it makes more sense to maximize your ability for longevity.

That being said... Smith is going to be a pretty polished player by years end. ha.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

I keep coming here with hopes of a commitment.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

While I don't EXPECT Jaylon to stay for his senior year, I would not be surprised in the least if he did. He is, after all, cut from a special cloth.

I would be absolutely stunned if he comes back (barring the unexpected: injury or decrease in play). He's projected as a top-10 pick and is getting heaps of praise from everyone. There is literally no reason to come back, he may also have his degree by end of 3rd year or summer session.

Even Stanley came back because he could improve his draft stock and polish his game. Anything else Jaylon needs to improve on, can be learned in the pros. You don't walk away from a top-10 pick.

I'm sure that's one of the reasons coaches made him a captain. Not that he didn't deserve it but I'm sure the coaches knew this may be their only chance to bestow a captaincy on him.

 

[woolybug25]

I would be absolutely stunned if he comes back (barring the unexpected: injury or decrease in play). He's projected as a top-10 pick and is getting heaps of praise from everyone. There is literally no reason to come back, he may also have his degree by end of 3rd year or summer session.

Even Stanley came back because he could improve his draft stock and polish his game. Anything else Jaylon needs to improve on, can be learned in the pros. You don't walk away from a top-10 pick.

I'm sure that's one of the reasons coaches made him a captain. Not that he didn't deserve it but I'm sure the coaches knew this may be their only chance to bestow a captaincy on him.

The staff didn't talk about improving Stanley's stock, per Stanley himself. They talked about making him more "pro ready" so he didn't get lost in a system once drafted. They talked about extending his career, not just draft position. Nowadays, it's not like there are the huge guaranteed contracts like there used to be. Now it's more important to stay in the league and get paid.

I don't believe that he's is a consensus top 10 pick either. Pretty close, but plenty of experts have him in the 15 range.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

The staff didn't talk about improving Stanley's stock, per Stanley himself. They talked about making him more "pro ready" so he didn't get lost in a system once drafted. They talked about extending his career, not just draft position. Nowadays, it's not like there are the huge guaranteed contracts like there used to be. Now it's more important to stay in the league and get paid.

I don't believe that he's is a consensus top 10 pick either. Pretty close, but plenty of experts have him in the 15 range.

If your reply means you are willing to bet he doesn't leave ND after his junior year, I'll bet all my future vbucks at that time. Should be at least a few billion (all tied up in bets and I've lost a ton ).

They are making him more "pro ready" in two ways: improving stock and hopefully improving his longevity once he gets to the league. One way to make money is maximize your first contract, the other is try to maximize your duration by being more pro-ready. Jaylon is already in a position to do both. He's ready and he has enough athleticism to pick up the rest on the fly.

 

[woolybug25]

If your reply means you are willing to bet he doesn't leave ND after his junior year, I'll bet all my future vbucks at that time. Should be at least a few billion (all tied up in bets and I've lost a ton ).

By no means... I think his play will put him in the top 10 by year's end. Not to mention, I think he is ready physically.

They are making him more "pro ready" in two ways: improving stock and hopefully improving his longevity once he gets to the league. One way to make money is maximize your first contract, the other is try to maximize your duration by being more pro-ready. Jaylon is already in a position to do both. He's ready and he has enough athleticism to pick up the rest on the fly.

In Stanley's case, the conversation didn't revolve around draft stock whatsoever. It was all about making him "ready". I agree with you though on Jaylon, not sure if you can really make an argument that he would gain any skill/strength/game IQ with another year in college.

I hope they try though....

 

[GBdomer]

While the shift in public statements to reporters has been impossible to miss, his comments to other recruits who visited South Bend last weekend were also very strong and very pro-Notre Dame.

“He said he really likes it there a lot,” another weekend visitor told ISD this week. “He loves the coaches, loves the atmosphere. He said the fans showed him much love. As soon as he stepped out there, everyone knew who he was.

“He said he really loved it out there and they showed him much love and he said I would love it there too if I were to come there with him.”

Last part says it all

 

[rtrn2glory]

dudes recruiting for ND and he's not even committed

 

[dublinirish]

Daelin's Skyline team were handed a 45-6 loss by Saline this weekend. Saline are a powerhouse so the score is not really a surprize. Saline's QB is Joshua Jackson a dual threat signal caller who is committed to Virginia Tech

Jackson a dual-threat in Saline's 45-6 rout of Skyline

This was a gigantic game for Skyline (2-1), which was coming off an 0-9 season, but had two decisive victories to begin this season.

Part of the reason for the turnaround has been transfer Daelin Hayes, the state’s No. 1 player and USC commit. And Hayes certainly was a force while he was in the game, but his evening ended late in the first quarter with an injury.

“It’s his shoulder. He’s got to have it checked out to see what’s going on,” coach Chanterius Brock said. “We knew it was hurt. It came out, and they put it back in.”

Not good

He returned to the sideline at the start of the second half, but he had ice wrapped around his right shoulder. A shoulder injury ended his sophomore season two years ago after four plays.

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[Irish#1]

If it's come out more than once, the chances of it coming out again are pretty good unless he has surgery to tighten it up.

 

[BobbyMac]

When I went to see him last year he missed the game with a shoulder. Not good for sure if its the same one..

 

[GoIrish41]

I still want him as much as any other recruit on our board. He should get the shoulder fixed surgically right away, so he can be ready for Spring practice at ND.

 

[Cackalacky]

I think we have had enough shoulder injuries. Is Farley, maybe Fox, the only few to make it back from major shoulder injuries and not be a nagging one like with Barratti, Collinsworth and a several others?

Shoulder injuries are hard to fully correct. This is a flag in my book. Unortunately

 

[woolybug25]

I would still be happy to have him from a shear talent perspective.

But the facts remain... he has never finished a season a football, transferred three times and now has a serious shoulder injury.

Notre Dame LOCK.

 

[Irish YJ]

just tighten that $hit up and let him sit a year. that way he won't leave after one year at ND because he did not play.

 

[SoDakDomer]

Worth the risk IMO. High upside.

 

[ResLife Hero]

Trojans get Hayes back to campus

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Much needed visit back home... Great to be back ✌&#55356;&#57341;️ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FightOn?src=hash">#FightOn</a> <a href="http://t.co/4PPTQlOPUE">pic.twitter.com/4PPTQlOPUE</a></p>— ⚡️Daelin Hayes⚡️ (@DaelinHayes_24) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaelinHayes_24/status/643584795591573504">September 15, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Shoulder looks fine...

 

[Irish YJ]

got to beat USC

 

[dad4aa]

Someone help me out. His family all moved back to Michigan. He is out in California on a non-official visit which means he is paying his own way. He isn't allowed to stay on campus so he must pay for his own flight, own hotel, own food, etc. That has to be a pretty expensive weekend. How strong is the feeling that he flips?

 

[Irish YJ]

lock if we beat usc
50/50 if we don't

 

[Jackalope1977]

His words say glad to be back but his face says get me the hell away from this guy.

 

[ResLife Hero]

His words say glad to be back but his face says get me the hell away from this guy.

Probably the smell of vodka

 

[Henges24]

1) Don't these kids go to school?
2) His parents (aka Sark)must be wealthy to get him a ticket out to So Cal...

 

[Luckylucci]

Sark is drunk again, this time caught selling booze to a minor