2016 Presidential Horse Race

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Trump Signs Pledge Not To Run Third Party.







P.S. It's not binding.

 

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MSNBC posted Monmouth U. Poll among Republican Voters conducted 8/31-9/2

Trump 30%
Carson 18
Bush 8
Cruz 8
Rubio 5
Fiorina 4
Huckabee 4
Walker 3
Christie 2
Kasich 2
Paul 2

 

[kmoose]

MSNBC posted Monmouth U. Poll among Republican Voters conducted 8/31-9/2

Trump 30%
Carson 18
Bush 8
Cruz 8
Rubio 5
Fiorina 4
Huckabee 4
Walker 3
Christie 2
Kasich 2
Paul 2
Moose 1(vote, not percent)

FIFY....

 

[ACamp1900]

Ha, the bottom two are prob the two I like the most... they're in that group anyway

 

[Grahambo]

We do not disagree on this. This is a typical Clintonesque, self-inflicted problem. It is almost if her and Bill do things that they know will cause controversy so they can continue to claim victimization when people call them out. This causes people to take sides in support or rejection of them, and when it happens enough they claim there is a pattern -- a vast right wing conspiracy. It is pessimistic, low ball politics. This is why I don't think I could vote for Hillary.

As someone who has seen the type of information that she had in her possession, heard the real stories on situations like Benghazi...I ask so very strongly to not cast a vote for her. Literally, anybody but her.

 

[Buster Bluth]

MSNBC posted Monmouth U. Poll among Republican Voters conducted 8/31-9/2

Trump 30%
Carson 18
Bush 8
Cruz 8
Rubio 5
Fiorina 4
Huckabee 4
Walker 3
Christie 2
Kasich 2
Paul 2

So 19% of Republicans support candidates who aren't crazy and have won a single election before. All you need to know about that bunch.

 

[kmoose]

So 19% of Republicans support candidates who aren't crazy and have won a single election before. All you need to know about that bunch.

And 100% of Democrats support a loser. Your point is?

 

[phgreek]

And 100% of Democrats support a loser. Your point is?

...next thing you know they'll dust off Harry Reid and trott his crooked ass out...just so the Dems can have someone that says things so off the wall Grandpa Joe's gaffs will sound reasonable (if he runs) and Hillary's exploits will seem...not so bad.

 

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Joe Biden: Family biggest factor in 2016 decision - CNNPolitics.com

By Jeremy Diamond and Kevin Liptak, CNN
Updated 11:17 PM ET, Thu September 3, 2015

Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday that he "would not hesitate" to run for president if he concludes that he can launch a "viable" campaign and that his family can make it through a presidential bid following the recent death of his son.

"If I can reach that conclusion that we can do it in a fashion that would still make it viable, I would not hesitate to do it," Biden said at Ahavath Achim Synagogue in Atlanta.

Biden said he was still gauging his family's "emotional energy" to join the race, calling it "the most relevant factor" in his decision-making process.

The comments are Biden's first public remarks about the potential for a 2016 run since reports have surfaced that he is seriously weighing a presidential bid. He spoke about his prospects when he took questions from attendees after his speech, which largely focused on foreign policy, and the 2016 inquiry was the first question asked.

"I will be straightforward with you. The most relevant factor in my decision is whether my family and I have the emotional energy to run," Biden told the crowd. "The honest to God answer is I just don't know."

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Joe Biden: Family biggest factor in 2016 decision - CNNPolitics.com

By Jeremy Diamond and Kevin Liptak, CNN
Updated 11:17 PM ET, Thu September 3, 2015

Can you imagine the volume of stupid sound bites there will be of good ole Joe if he decides to run? He might actually make Trump sound sane.

 

[pkt77242]

Can you imagine the volume of stupid sound bites there will be of good ole Joe if he decides to run? He might actually make Trump sound sane.

I don't know how you could even compare those two. Biden is nowhere close to Trump on the crazy train. Now Biden is up there with Perry on the unforced error scale.

 

[pkt77242]

The real reason Donald Trump is so rich - The Washington Post

NationalJournal

 

[connor_in]

 

[Buster Bluth]

I don't know how you could even compare those two. Biden is nowhere close to Trump on the crazy train. Now Biden is up there with Perry on the unforced error scale.

That's exactly right. Say what you will about Biden being a goofy dude who should think before he speaks every now and then, but at least he is respected on Capitol Hill and one of the more knowledgeable guys in the foreign policy realm.

Biden > Trump, every damn day

 

[RDU Irish]

I find it interesting that the Dems quickly run to the oldest, whitest, inner beltline codgers the minute they think they have a lead. Where is the youth and diversity? Is Biden really the best alternative they can come up with?

 

[GoIrish41]

I find it interesting that the Dems quickly run to the oldest, whitest, inner beltline codgers the minute they think they have a lead. Where is the youth and diversity? Is Biden really the best alternative they can come up with?

It seems like you suggesting that the GOP is the party of "diversity"? If so, I find it difficult to believe that you sincerely think that is an accurate assessment. Look beyond the candidates ... what do their proposed policies offer in the way of diversity for Americans, or to help young people grow into vibrant and productive citizens? When you have 20 candidates, you can accidentally look diverse. No matter how diverse the GOP candidates may look in the early stages of this election, I guarantee that a white man will end up as the GOP's candidate, and his policies will almost certainly continue to alienate minorities and young people (and women). Diversity in politics is more than a superficial skin color/gender assessment ... it's about ideas.

 

[Wild Bill]

That's exactly right. Say what you will about Biden being a goofy dude who should think before he speaks every now and then, but at least he is respected on Capitol Hill and one of the more knowledgeable guys in the foreign policy realm.

Biden > Trump, every damn day

I'm not sure that's respectable.

 

[ACamp1900]

Thought the same thing...

 

[RDU Irish]

It seems like you suggesting that the GOP is the party of "diversity"? If so, I find it difficult to believe that you sincerely think that is an accurate assessment. Look beyond the candidates ... what do their proposed policies offer in the way of diversity for Americans, or to help young people grow into vibrant and productive citizens? When you have 20 candidates, you can accidentally look diverse. No matter how diverse the GOP candidates may look in the early stages of this election, I guarantee that a white man will end up as the GOP's candidate, and his policies will almost certainly continue to alienate minorities and young people (and women). Diversity in politics is more than a superficial skin color/gender assessment ... it's about ideas.

Sounds kind of like the classic survey - everyone HATES congress but LOVES their congressman/woman. If those hacks listed above are so wonderful, maybe you can point to ANY meaningful legislation they have championed, as in been able to actual affect change and build a DC consensus to solve a real problem. Point fingers for a living and take over as the leader of the free world, sounds like more Hope and Change to me.

 

[wizards8507]

A Few More #TrumpBible Verses - The New Yorker

 

[woolybug25]

Question... when Obama was running for Prez the first time, experience (especially foreign policy experience) was a major concern for conservatives. Would not being able to name a single leader of any terrorist organization gotten him slayed?

Why does Trump seemingly get a pass and can excuse it as a "gotcha" question? Poor guy... everybody is always treating him unfairly.

Trump: Asking who terrorist leaders are is 'ridiculous' - CNNPolitics.com

 

[wizards8507]

Question... when Obama was running for Prez the first time, and experience was a major concern for conservatives. Would not being able to name a single leader of any terrorist organization gotten him slayed?

Why does Trump seemingly get a pass and can excuse it as a "gotcha" question? Poor guy... everybody is always treating him unfairly.

Trump: Asking who terrorist leaders are is 'ridiculous' - CNNPolitics.com

Different kind of experience. Trump has executive experience though he lacks political experience. Obama had zero executive experience and very little political experience.

I'm not Trump-lover, but that's the answer.

 

[woolybug25]

Different kind of experience. Trump has executive experience though he lacks political experience. Obama had zero executive experience and very little political experience.

I'm not Trump-lover, but that's the answer.

Again... if Obama wouldn't have been able to answer this question, wouldn't he have been slayed?

Also... at least Obama had political experience.

 

[RDU Irish]

No he would not have been slayed and he never would have been asked that question. It comes with having good handlers and only giving speeches instead of engaging in an open dialogue with reporters.

I really don't care if any of these bozos can recite world leaders by heart or not, I care if they are managing the people who do with clear goals and objectives (versus being managed by them).

 

[woolybug25]

No he would not have been slayed and he never would have been asked that question. It comes with having good handlers and only giving speeches instead of engaging in an open dialogue with reporters.

I really don't care if any of these bozos can recite world leaders by heart or not, I care if they are managing the people who do with clear goals and objectives (versus being managed by them).

He got asked all kinds of questions. Crazy questions about his birth certificate, his family history, friends. Are you actually serious?

I totally disagree. Hypocrisy is strong when it comes to Trump. All of the things Obama was attacked with in his first campaign, Trump is getting a pass for now.

 

[wizards8507]

He got asked all kinds of questions. Crazy questions about his birth certificate, his family history, friends. Are you actually serious?

I totally disagree. Hypocrisy is strong when it comes to Trump. All of the things Obama was attacked with in his first campaign, Trump is getting a pass for now.

You think Trump is getting a pass? Seriously? The very article you posted to bring this topic up in the first place is proof that he's not getting a pass. He's even getting it from the right. Glenn Beck has been ripping him for months, most recently about how he claims to be a religious guy but is a total fraud.

 

[woolybug25]

You think Trump is getting a pass? Seriously? The very article you posted to bring this topic up in the first place is proof that he's not getting a pass. He's even getting it from the right. Glenn Beck has been ripping him for months, most recently about how he claims to be a religious guy but is a total fraud.

Again... If Obama would have been asked this question and didn't have an answer, he would have been slayed. If Obama would have called Mexicans rapists, he would have been slayed. If Obama would have said McCain wasn't a war hero, he would have been slayed.

The list goes on and on. Any one of those comments would have been a Howard Dean scream for Obama. But it's standard quo for Trump.

 

[pkt77242]

You think Trump is getting a pass? Seriously? The very article you posted to bring this topic up in the first place is proof that he's not getting a pass. He's even getting it from the crazies. Glenn Beck has been ripping him for months, most recently about how he claims to be a religious guy but is a total fraud.

FIFY

Beck is nuts.

 

[ACamp1900]

I'm no Trump fan or apologist... at all... but I'm not crying for Obama when it comes to his treatment by the media... complete kid gloves.

 

[connor_in]

Again... If Obama would have been asked this question and didn't have an answer, he would have been slayed. If Obama would have called Mexicans rapists, he would have been slayed. If Obama would have said McCain wasn't a war hero, he would have been slayed.

The list goes on and on. Any one of those comments would have been a Howard Dean scream for Obama. But it's standard quo for Trump.

I respectfully disagree


and I am not a Trump fan