'11 SC QB Everett Golson (FSU transfer)

[IrishinSyria]

Great article by Murtaugh. Good luck to EG
Everett Golson Transfers to Florida State: A Goodbye - One Foot Down

Great read. Anyone who can't appreciate what EG did for the program can take a hike as far as I'm concerned. Sure, it could have been better, but it was pretty dang special.

 

[irishtrain]

Great read. Anyone who can't appreciate what EG did for the program can take a hike as far as I'm concerned. Sure, it could have been better, but it was pretty dang special.

Most talented Qb in years and I hate-just hate to see this guy leave. Something is not right about this as in why? I think there is more to this than we see from the outside. It may be the obvious that he thought the team and staff want Zaire but I just cant see all the battles he went thru just to transfer out his senior year-there is more to this than meets the outside look in. Anyway FSU is getting a great player for 1 year and in my mind a quality guy from what I see from the outside. I stick to my opinion that toooooo much was put on his shoulders those last 6 games and he feels like he did all he could. Sometimes people can be a little creepy with the things they say. His exit post could not have been any classier. Good luck and hope we don't have to play ya-you are a good Qb.

 

[ickythump1225]

Now I can't cheer for EG any longer. I appreciate what he did for ND but I can't cheer for a Criminole haha. At least he didn't go to UGA then I would have to outright hate him.

I wish EG the best of luck.

 

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Can Lisa Ann recruit for us already?

Uhhh Lisa Man, am I right

 

[BleedBlueGold]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WELCOME TO THE FAMILY, <a href="https://twitter.com/Everett_Golson5">@Everett_Golson5</a> ���� <a href="http://t.co/x4fBI6bmVg">pic.twitter.com/x4fBI6bmVg</a></p>— Mia Khalifa (@miakhalifa) <a href="https://twitter.com/miakhalifa/status/600711543047729152">May 19, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Does she go to FSU or something? What story did I miss?

 

[Irish Insanity]

Golson's gotta be really super sad he doesn't get to play football for your favorite team anymore.

We have a winner

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Ironic that Mike Sanford comes in when Golson leaves.

What I mean by this is I think Molner, Martin, and Kelly, some of whom are exceedingly good coaches, coached some of their own mechanics into the offense, (or lack thereof), that added difficulty to the Irish QB's job. I believe Mike Sanford is already fixing this.

So, it will never be as simple as some of the opinions, or exhortations expressed in this thread. But hopefully, with the new coaching configuration, the quarterbacks (talent) on the roster, and the sacrifice of Everett Golson at the alter of the cult of the personality, everyone will move forward and get what they want and deserve.

 

[NDohio]

Great article by Murtaugh. Good luck to EG
Everett Golson Transfers to Florida State: A Goodbye - One Foot Down

Enjoyed reading that. I will be one of those that truly misses seeing him in an Irish uniform.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Great article by Murtaugh. Good luck to EG
Everett Golson Transfers to Florida State: A Goodbye - One Foot Down

This is a good article and it helps us fans remember the good times.

But my issue with Golson is how this whole thing ended. I'll remember him as a good, play-making QB. But also as one who literally told everyone he was staying at ND, only to up and leave after getting his degree. His lack of leadership, on and off the field, along with the lying during the spring leaves a sour taste in my mouth. It basically just capped a horrible final year at ND with his as the QB (which is crazy to say considering how well it started). That's what I'll remember.

Thanks for the good times, Everett, but it won't take me long to move on.

 

[ndfi78]

This is a good article and it helps us fans remember the good times.

But my issue with Golson is how this whole thing ended. I'll remember him as a good, play-making QB. But also as one who literally told everyone he was staying at ND, only to up and leave after getting his degree. His lack of leadership, on and off the field, along with the lying during the spring leaves a sour taste in my mouth. It basically just capped a horrible final year at ND with his as the QB (which is crazy to say considering how well it started). That's what I'll remember.

Thanks for the good times, Everett, but it won't take me long to move on.

This is how I feel, except I've already moved on.

 

[NDohio]

This is a good article and it helps us fans remember the good times.

But my issue with Golson is how this whole thing ended. I'll remember him as a good, play-making QB. But also as one who literally told everyone he was staying at ND, only to up and leave after getting his degree. His lack of leadership, on and off the field, along with the lying during the spring leaves a sour taste in my mouth. It basically just capped a horrible final year at ND with his as the QB (which is crazy to say considering how well it started). That's what I'll remember.

Thanks for the good times, Everett, but it won't take me long to move on.

I liken this to how a coach knows he is leaving but denies, denies, denies until the very end. Then they take a job elsewhere. Remember when BK was leaving UC? What a fiasco.

EG needed to continue to get reps through the spring, he needed to be "all in" to the ND football program to keep his scholarship. It sucks he had to do it, but he had to play the game.

 

[Irish YJ]

Ironic that Mike Sanford comes in when Golson leaves.

What I mean by this is I think Molner, Martin, and Kelly, some of whom are exceedingly good coaches, coached some of their own mechanics into the offense, (or lack thereof), that added difficulty to the Irish QB's job. I believe Mike Sanford is already fixing this.

So, it will never be as simple as some of the opinions, or exhortations expressed in this thread. But hopefully, with the new coaching configuration, the quarterbacks (talent) on the roster, and the sacrifice of Everett Golson at the alter of the cult of the personality, everyone will move forward and get what they want and deserve.

I think this could prove very beneficial. MZ gets Sanford's full focus. Anything already "done" to by other coaches should be fixable at this early stage . If all he is missing is short to medium accuracy, I think we are in good shape. It's not like he was go awful. He'll improve.

I don't know what this (EG leaving) will mean early on in the passing game, but I do think this is best long term for MZ, Sanford, the locker room, ND, and the fans.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I think this could prove very beneficial. MZ gets Sanford's full focus. Anything already "done" to by other coaches should be fixable at this early stage . If all he is missing is short to medium accuracy, I think we are in good shape. It's not like he was go awful. He'll improve.

I don't know what this (EG leaving) will mean early on in the passing game, but I do think this is best long term for MZ, Sanford, the locker room, ND, and the fans.

Part of my point is most of the ambivalence, "ambivolence", (and worse), shown to Golson, may have been a misfire with coaching. And whether Golson is here or not, Job 1 is to clean that up.

And if that gets cleaned up things will get rolling; the who isn't as important.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

I liken this to how a coach knows he is leaving but denies, denies, denies until the very end. Then they take a job elsewhere. Remember when BK was leaving UC? What a fiasco.

EG needed to continue to get reps through the spring, he needed to be "all in" to the ND football program to keep his scholarship. It sucks he had to do it, but he had to play the game.

This is true. I get that it's a business and the players have to look after themselves at times. For me, it's the combination of everything.

Don't get me wrong, I'm going to miss Golson as the QB. The kid made a hell of a lot of plays during his "short time" at ND (he only got to play two seasons...imagine had he played four. Perhaps BK managed him incorrectly (it wouldn't be the first time). But leadership was always an issue with him. He got suspended for an entire season. He played horrible down the stretch and hung his head. Then he bounced when there was a chance he wouldn't be "the guy." Any of those in isolation can be overlooked. But it's the combination that annoys me and why I'm just ready for the Malik era to begin.

 

[ulukinatme]

Meh, a lot of infatuation on this page. Golson had an arm at times in 2012, but how many games did he single-handedly win for us? Maaaaybe Pitt? Pitt is even debatable because that was arguably one of his most inconsistent games until he turned it on at the very end. I think in some ways Tommy bailed us out more often in 2012 offensively than Golson ever did, as they say he "rode the bus" to the NC. Tommy got us through Michigan, BYU, and got us through the crucial parts of Stanford and Purdue. Truly the true heroes were the defensive players in that 2012 season of course, but I'm pretty confidant that Tommy could have scored 14 points in Norman to come away with a victory, especially since Cierre contributed one by himself on a big run. Same for USC, Tommy could have scored 14 there, he did it the previous two years. I know I'm taking a bit away from Golson there, but my main point is more than anything Everett had the benefit in 2012 of being the Quarterback of a defensive juggernaut. That team was Manti's from start to finish, and when he faltered that's when it came apart.

Looking back through the 2012 schedule in retrospect if Kelly called the same kind of game plan with Tommy and threw the ball < 20-25 times a game that's still an 11-12 win season. There wasn't a lot of Golson magic or anything outside of the Pitt comeback, and there wouldn't have needed to be a comeback if he hadn't been inconsistent to a point where we had only 6 stinkin' points against Pitt by the 4th quarter. 6....points....against Pitt. Even if one of those 2012 games ends up being a loss I think a lot of us would have rather gone 11-1 and won a big bowl game rather than going 12-0 and getting embarrassed against 'Bama in the title game.

I supported Golson while he was the QB, but he's not the QB anymore and he took his ball elsewhere. I honestly was never sold on his abilities, and I've been waiting for the day that Zaire would take over. I was hoping that Golson would stick around so they could ease Zaire in, but this probably works out for the best as there's no controversy and Malik ends up with all the 1st team reps now.

For me, Golson was so much more frustrating to watch in his time at QB over a guy like Tommy because he had all the turnover problems (Even more so at times) and yet he had so much more athleticism. If Golson took care of the football we probably wind up with 10 wins last season despite the late defensive injuries. Heck, our defense would have been on the field a lot less without all those turnovers that's for sure. I kind of wonder now if Zaire had started the season if maybe the defense doesn't get so banged up as Kelly has shown he'll air the ball less with a new starter.

In retrospect I kind of wish Golson wouldn't have come back from his suspension. I think he lost something after his suspension, and he was coming back to a very different team in 2014. All of his go to guys and skill position players were essentially gone, and the defense was entirely different too. Long term it would have been better that Zaire did get the reps. Think about this...with all the hype coming in, and 4 years of possible eligibility we got less than 1 1/2 good seasons out of him between the suspension, injuries, and transfer. That's disappointing.

 

[Rocket89]

Meh, a lot of infatuation on this page. Golson had an arm at times in 2012, but how many games did he single-handedly win for us? Maaaaybe Pitt? Pitt is even debatable because that was arguably one of his most inconsistent games until he turned it on at the very end. I think in some ways Tommy bailed us out more often in 2012 offensively than Golson ever did, as they say he "rode the bus" to the NC. Tommy got us through Michigan, BYU, and got us through the crucial parts of Stanford and Purdue. Truly the true heroes were the defensive players in that 2012 season of course, but I'm pretty confidant that Tommy could have scored 14 points in Norman to come away with a victory, especially since Cierre contributed one by himself on a big run. Same for USC, Tommy could have scored 14 there, he did it the previous two years. I know I'm taking a bit away from Golson there, but my main point is more than anything Everett had the benefit in 2012 of being the Quarterback of a defensive juggernaut. That team was Manti's from start to finish, and when he faltered that's when it came apart.

Looking back through the 2012 schedule in retrospect if Kelly called the same kind of game plan with Tommy and threw the ball < 20-25 times a game that's still an 11-12 win season. There wasn't a lot of Golson magic or anything outside of the Pitt comeback, and there wouldn't have needed to be a comeback if he hadn't been inconsistent to a point where we had only 6 stinkin' points against Pitt by the 4th quarter. 6....points....against Pitt. Even if one of those 2012 games ends up being a loss I think a lot of us would have rather gone 11-1 and won a big bowl game rather than going 12-0 and getting embarrassed against 'Bama in the title game.

I supported Golson while he was the QB, but he's not the QB anymore and he took his ball elsewhere. I honestly was never sold on his abilities, and I've been waiting for the day that Zaire would take over. I was hoping that Golson would stick around so they could ease Zaire in, but this probably works out for the best as there's no controversy and Malik ends up with all the 1st team reps now.

For me, Golson was so much more frustrating to watch in his time at QB over a guy like Tommy because he had all the turnover problems (Even more so at times) and yet he had so much more athleticism. If Golson took care of the football we probably wind up with 10 wins last season despite the late defensive injuries. Heck, our defense would have been on the field a lot less without all those turnovers that's for sure. I kind of wonder now if Zaire had started the season if maybe the defense doesn't get so banged up as Kelly has shown he'll air the ball less with a new starter.

In retrospect I kind of wish Golson wouldn't have come back from his suspension. I think he lost something after his suspension, and he was coming back to a very different team in 2014. All of his go to guys and skill position players were essentially gone, and the defense was entirely different too. Long term it would have been better that Zaire did get the reps. Think about this...with all the hype coming in, and 4 years of possible eligibility we got less than 1 1/2 good seasons out of him between the suspension, injuries, and transfer. That's disappointing.

I've read a lot of petty posts regarding Golson, mostly the usual vindictive stuff that spurned fans always write.

But to go to these lengths to belittle and brush aside everything Golson did at Notre Dame? This is the new leader in the clubhouse for worst post on the subject.

 

[ulukinatme]

I've read a lot of petty posts regarding Golson, mostly the usual vindictive stuff that spurned fans always write.

But to go to these lengths to belittle and brush aside everything Golson did at Notre Dame? This is the new leader in the clubhouse for worst post on the subject.

What did Golson do in 2012 that Tommy couldn't/wouldn't have done? It still would have been an 11-12 win season. Then he got suspended for 2013. 2014 is harder to gauge, but I wonder if we wouldn't have fared better if Malik had started from the start. Maybe we lose one or two of the first 6 games, but we probably win one or two of the back six and Malik would have been better for 2015. Now Golson is taking his ball elsewhere.

So, again, how much did Golson really do for us in retrospect?

 

[wizards8507]

I've read a lot of petty posts regarding Golson, mostly the usual vindictive stuff that spurned fans always write.

But to go to these lengths to belittle and brush aside everything Golson did at Notre Dame? This is the new leader in the clubhouse for worst post on the subject.

I was going to respond to this, but BleedBlueGold already hit it out of the park.

The kid made a hell of a lot of plays during his "short time" at ND.

But leadership was always an issue with him.

He got suspended for an entire season.

He played horrible down the stretch and hung his head.

Then he bounced when there was a chance he wouldn't be "the guy."

 

[kmoose]

Most talented Qb in years and I hate-just hate to see this guy leave.

No offense, but...

Yeah, unlike those no talent hacks like Quinn and Clausen!

Golson was no more talented than either of those guys, other than his ability to scramble. But they were so far ahead of Golson in the other aspects that it becomes essentially a push.

 

[EddytoNow]

No offense, but...

Yeah, unlike those no talent hacks like Quinn and Clausen!

Golson was no more talented than either of those guys, other than his ability to scramble. But they were so far ahead of Golson in the other aspects that it becomes essentially a push.

In comparing Golson to Clausen, one cannot ignore the fact that Clausen played behind one of the most porous offensive lines in recent history for much of his career. He also drove the team down the field many times to take a late lead only to have the defense give up a winning touchdown in the closing seconds. The problem wasn't Clausen. He played nearly all of his final season with turf toe.

Quinn had a better surrounding cast than Clausen, but both were far better quarterbacks than Golson.

 

[irishff1014]

This is a good article and it helps us fans remember the good times.

But my issue with Golson is how this whole thing ended. I'll remember him as a good, play-making QB. But also as one who literally told everyone he was staying at ND, only to up and leave after getting his degree. His lack of leadership, on and off the field, along with the lying during the spring leaves a sour taste in my mouth. It basically just capped a horrible final year at ND with his as the QB (which is crazy to say considering how well it started). That's what I'll remember.

Thanks for the good times, Everett, but it won't take me long to move on.

I 2nd this except the article.

 

[RDU Irish]

In comparing Golson to Clausen, one cannot ignore the fact that Clausen played behind one of the most porous offensive lines in recent history for much of his career. He also drove the team down the field many times to take a late lead only to have the defense give up a winning touchdown in the closing seconds. The problem wasn't Clausen. He played nearly all of his final season with turf toe.

Quinn had a better surrounding cast than Clausen, but both were far better quarterbacks than Golson.

If we had Quinn or Clausen eligible for next year- 1) there is no doubt they would be the starter. 2) We would be national champion favorites. 3) There is no doubt they would be returning to the team given #1 and #2.

 

[NDohio]

I am surprised people are taking up so much time and using so much effort to rip on EG.

 

[Irish YJ]

No offense, but...

Yeah, unlike those no talent hacks like Quinn and Clausen!

Golson was no more talented than either of those guys, other than his ability to scramble. But they were so far ahead of Golson in the other aspects that it becomes essentially a push.

I'd take either one of them over Golson with this or the 2012 surrounding cast

 

[woolybug25]

I'd take either one of them over Golson with this or the 2012 surrounding cast

Could you imagine Clausen running the 2012 team? Holy cow. He wouldn't know what to do with blocking and a real defense.

 

[Emcee77]

I am surprised people are taking up so much time and using so much effort to rip on EG.

Seriously. I just don't get the interest. He was a talented guy who never quite realized his potential for us. I'm sorry he's gone, because I was hoping he was finally going to put all together next year, but I wish him well, and I look forward to seeing him get outplayed by Malik in next year's national championship game. But that's really all I have to say about it.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Could you imagine Clausen running the 2012 team? Holy cow. He wouldn't know what to do with blocking and a real defense.

Robby Toma All American?

 

[Irish#1]

Could you imagine Clausen running the 2012 team? Holy cow. He wouldn't know what to do with blocking and a real defense.

You're right. I can still see him getting hammered time and time again. He took a licking, but kept on ticking.

 

[ulukinatme]

I am surprised people are taking up so much time and using so much effort to rip on EG.

I am surprised people are taking up so much time and using so much effort to lament that he's leaving when he's contributed little in retrospect.

It's not really about ripping on EG, it's more about being realistic regarding his accomplishments and separating the truth from the hype. He's been a fantastic play maker for us at times, but a fantastic play maker that was horribly inconsistent, lost a year to academic suspension, and ultimately decided he wanted the keys handed to him somewhere else rather than battle Malik.

 

[wizards8507]

I am surprised people are taking up so much time and using so much effort to rip on EG.

It actually requires very little effort... just a pair of eyeballs and crap like this: