'15 CA WR Equanimeous St. Brown (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

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Definitely a tough season, and a little underwhelming. However, as I've stated in the past. His QB Travis Waller just wasn't very good and is insanely overrated. I think this had a lot to do with it.

Travis waller is still way better than the average high school qb, so idk I'd that's a valid reason for st browns season.
 

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Travis waller is still way better than the average high school qb, so idk I'd that's a valid reason for st browns season.

Considering the quality of competition that Servite plays its all relative. Of course he's better than the QB at my old HS but the QB at my old HS plays significantly weaker competition. For the level of HS competition they are playing, Waller was very average. His comp% for the year was around 50%. In comparison Wimbush was 70%+. On top of that, there were games where he was rushing for more yards than he threw. Again, I'm not saying that this was the only reason but it definitely plays a part.
 

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Travis waller is still way better than the average high school qb, so idk I'd that's a valid reason for st browns season.

He's much better than the average HS QB but he isn't a much better passer than the average HS QB. He is a runner first and foremost. They have a ton of talent at WR and this was Waller's stat line:

Name...GP....C.....Att.....Yds.....C%.....Avg.....Y/G .....C/G.....TD.....Int..... Lng.....QB Rate......

Waller...11...122...224...1692.....545...13.9....153.8...11.1....14.......6....... 50 ........88.6........

The best day of ND's '15 recruiting cycle up until today was when Waller gave his verbal to Oregon.

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When we pick up ESB officially, we should be 1 or 2 in the WR/TE rankings. Crazy good class receiving class. LBs too.
 

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Equanimeous, with Aliz'e Jones on board we'd love to have you be next. Make that call and let BK know you want to be part of the Irish family going forward. I'm looking forward to the TV announcers saying "Wimbush connects with St. Brown again!" We fans are excited about the offensive firepower being assembled in the 2015 class.
 

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His name is Josh Adams. His name is Josh Adams. His name is Josh Adams.

LOLOL I know I know, but as it stands, you have to figure there is a good chance one or both of GB and TF will be gone by the time Wimbush takes gametime snaps. RB corps, party of one... We need to do better with RB recruitment, 'as all.
 
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LOLOL I know I know, but as it stands, you have to figure there is a good chance one or both of GB and TF will be gone by the time Wimbush takes gametime snaps. RB corps, party of one... We need to do better with RB recruitment, 'as all.

Add that to the list of "Why Notre Dame needs to run the ball ad nauseam in 2015" list.
 

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I thought this was funny so I'll share. In the Alize Jones article that Wiltfong put up he wrote that Alize was commit #24, a poster called him on it and said he was actually #23. Witlfong replies I was thinking ahead to ESB.

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LOLOL I know I know, but as it stands, you have to figure there is a good chance one or both of GB and TF will be gone by the time Wimbush takes gametime snaps. RB corps, party of one... We need to do better with RB recruitment, 'as all.

GB won't be gone. He'll have to stay just to get some tape of him playing for the NFL scouts.
 

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Add that to the list of "Why Notre Dame needs to run the ball ad nauseam in 2015" list.

Agreed. All we need is one productive year at the position and you have to figure we're going to be taken a lot more seriously by the elite RBs. Not that Soso and Jones weren't taking us seriously, but when it really came down to brass tacks, I just don't think our system provided them enough of a comfort level. 1,000 yards out of Folston this year should do the trick.
 

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Add that to the list of "Why Notre Dame needs to run the ball ad nauseam in 2015" list.

Agreed. All we need is one productive year at the position and you have to figure we're going to be taken a lot more seriously by the elite RBs. Not that Soso and Jones weren't taking us seriously, but when it really came down to brass tacks, I just don't think our system provided them enough of a comfort level. 1,000 yards out of Folston this year should do the trick.

After we saw our OL give what was probably their best performance of the year in the bowl game, I agree with this completely. We should be running and running and running until teams can prove they can stop it.

We have Stanley returning, we have a bevy of underclassmen who look physically ready to impose their will. Nelson is a year developed, McGlinchey looks ready, Stanley is returning, Martin is a 5th year, McGovern and Bivin look ready. Montelus will hopefully make a big jump because he has the frame to open holes.

If we don't average near 200 yds/game in 2015, something is seriously wrong. Couple that with the vertical threats we have and I just don't see how a defense can commit 8 to stopping the run. Really looking forward to spring ball already.
 

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After we saw our OL give what was probably their best performance of the year in the bowl game, I agree with this completely. We should be running and running and running until teams can prove they can stop it.

We have Stanley returning, we have a bevy of underclassmen who look physically ready to impose their will. Nelson is a year developed, McGlinchey looks ready, Stanley is returning, Martin is a 5th year, McGovern and Bivin look ready. Montelus will hopefully make a big jump because he has the frame to open holes.

If we don't average near 200 yds/game in 2015, something is seriously wrong. Couple that with the vertical threats we have and I just don't see how a defense can commit 8 to stopping the run. Really looking forward to spring ball already.
I don't see why this offense can't average ~500 yards/gm with a healthy dose of running. I think a lot depends on which QB gets QB1 snaps. I think a Golson offense can net more yards, yet a Zaire offense would net less while being more efficient. It's also very possible I'm rambling now. It's cold out and there are wolves after me..
 

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When we pick up ESB officially, we should be 1 or 2 in the WR/TE rankings. Crazy good class receiving class. LBs too.

Could easily be the best class of receivers we've ever signed.
 

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We legitimately have 3 players on the receiving corps that could come in and contribute immediately (Sanders, ESB, and Jones) and two others that will eventually be great contributors.
 

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We legitimately have 3 players on the receiving corps that could come in and contribute immediately (Sanders, ESB, and Jones) and two others that will eventually be great contributors.

The best part is that they won't be needed to come in and contribute right away. They'll have to legitimately earn it.

Sanders will have to outperform Hunter Jr., Prosise, & maybe Carlisle.

ESB will have to outcompete Robinson, Brown, Fuller, Brent & Holmes.

Jones will have to displace one of: Heuerman, Luatua, Smythe, Weishar. (each of which could be legitimate players for us.)

Competition is great for a program.
 

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The year we got Floyd, Rudolph and Walker was pretty good.

McKnight, Stovall and Fasano was pretty good also off the top of my head.


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Could easily be the best class of receivers we've ever signed.

I love ESB and I believe he has a very high ceiling, but Sanders and Jones I think are the types of guys who could be very, very special.

I think this could turn out to be the best LB class we've ever signed too.
 

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No doubt ESB, Alize, and Sanders would be the highlights of the receiving class but I could also see Boykin coming I and playing a role similar to Robinson and being very productive.
 

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No doubt ESB, Alize, and Sanders would be the highlights of the receiving class but I could also see Boykin coming I and playing a role similar to Robinson and being very productive.
I'm a huge Boykin fan and think he's going to be a stud when it's all said and done but IMO he's nothing like Robinson.

The player I think that fits more of the Robinson mold is ESB.

Boykin is a tall power WR that very well could be a TE. I think Boykin is more in the mold of Devin Funchess.
 

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I'm a huge Boykin fan and think he's going to be a stud when it's all said and done but IMO he's nothing like Robinson.

The player I think that fits more of the Robinson mold is ESB.

Boykin is a tall power WR that very well could be a TE. I think Boykin is more in the mold of Devin Funchess.

Agreed. I see ESB as a "possibly" more athletic Corey Robinson, which is a big compliment considering his nickname is catch radius.

Boykin, if we are lucky, is a poor man's Anquan Boldin. Runs across the middle with power. Hopefully Brent can be that as well.
 

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Agreed. I see ESB as a "possibly" more athletic Corey Robinson, which is a big compliment considering his nickname is catch radius.

Boykin, if we are lucky, is a poor man's Anquan Boldin. Runs across the middle with power. Hopefully Brent can be that as well.

Boldin is 6'1" at best. Boykin is like 6'4". I hate player comparisons but if you want to make one you should be think more along the lines of Devin Funchess rather than Boldin.
 

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Boldin is 6'1" at best. Boykin is like 6'4". I hate player comparisons but if you want to make one you should be think more along the lines of Devin Funchess rather than Boldin.

I hope Boykin is more in the mold of Brandon Marshall because we don't need another Funchess. When they made Funchess they didn't break the mold, they poured Aliz'e Jones a few years later then broke the mold.

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Agreed. I see ESB as a "possibly" more athletic Corey Robinson, which is a big compliment considering his nickname is catch radius.

Boykin, if we are lucky, is a poor man's Anquan Boldin. Runs across the middle with power. Hopefully Brent can be that as well.
I don't really see the Boykin/Boldin comparison. I sort of get what I believe your thinking but not quite.

Boldin is great but he's without question a possession WR game isn't based on speed at all. He's never been fleet of foot and that alone differentiates Boykin an Brent. Where I sort of get what your saying is Boldin is actually like a TE in that he's a great blocker, route runner who game is based on positioning, strength and hands.

Boykin is already a much bigger at 6'5 225 a day like I said I just don't see it, too me he's more Funchess or Mike Evans than the slower and shorter 6'1 220 Boldin.

I think a Brent comparison to Boldin is much more apropos. Brent is already slightly taller and faster than Boldin but like him the is a strength/power element to his game.

Boldin is a great example that measurables are and can be overrated because he's a 6'1 4.7 forty WR that would get overlooked in the draft nowadays despite being a great player.
 

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To clear up my post, I wasn't trying to compare Robinson and Boykin's games but more so the role they play within the offense.
 

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Boldin is 6'1" at best. Boykin is like 6'4". I hate player comparisons but if you want to make one you should be think more along the lines of Devin Funchess rather than Boldin.

I don't believe height is what determines a player's type. Boykin, to me, is a taller Boldin.

I don't really see the Boykin/Boldin comparison. I sort of get what I believe your thinking but not quite.

Boldin is great but he's without question a possession WR game isn't based on speed at all. He's never been fleet of foot and that alone differentiates Boykin an Brent. Where I sort of get what your saying is Boldin is actually like a TE in that he's a great blocker, route runner who game is based on positioning, strength and hands.

Boykin is already a much bigger at 6'5 225 a day like I said I just don't see it, too me he's more Funchess or Mike Evans than the slower and shorter 6'1 220 Boldin.

I think a Brent comparison to Boldin is much more apropos. Brent is already slightly taller and faster than Boldin but like him the is a strength/power element to his game.

Boldin is a great example that measurables are and can be overrated because he's a 6'1 4.7 forty WR that would get overlooked in the draft nowadays despite being a great player.

So maybe I misspoke, do we believe Boykin to be a burner? We really think he's faster the Boldin? Boykin is not 6'5" unless he grew a few inches from his junior year.

I guess I'm having a hard time believing Anquan Boldin is slower than a senior in high school (who isn't labeled a burner) and Justin Brent, who isn't known to be a burner either.

The comparison to Boldin was because he is a brick sh*thouse who goes up and gets the ball, blocks pretty well and just plays the game in a very physical manner.

I don't think Boykin will be a hybrid or flex TE unless he continues to grow. I think he's a receiver who doesn't rely on elusiveness.

Of course, maybe I don't remember Boykin's highlight tape very well. I'm going to look up his senior film and I'll get back to both of you.

**Went searching for senior highlights and found a few scattered plays but found this gem:

OFDs Boykin breakdown a few games into his senior season

Also, if you jump on cube.com you can see his senior highlights in segments and I don't believe he is a burner (although he's not slow).
 
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