'15 TX S Prentice McKinney (Oklahoma Signee)

[TheChosen1]

Why would we tell him he couldn't enroll early? Was is the academic thing?

That's the rumor. But remember the last rumor

 

[Luckylucci]

McKinney was never an EE....

Agreed, I haven't seen that mentioned one time until now. He's long been considered an academic risk and was aware what he needed to do. I don't think its a coincidence that the academic issues get leaked and next thing you know he's taking an OV. Also, he puts out a tweet speaking to how if people want you around they'll make it happen. As if we're not supposed to hold him to the same standards of other players/recruits. Now, are those standards too much. That's debatable but its not as if he is getting some kind of poor treatment.

 

[NDRock]

Mora is treating us like Urban did when he was at Florida, grabbing a few of our recruits as needed. Brutal.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

We made the post addressing rumors (maybe coming from here stemming from Loy's post), not suggesting it himself. The source he quoted said they were "under the impression everything is going to be fine". He also said the topic of it not working out hasn't been brought up by either party, but could be something to watch.

I'm not a big Jake Brown fan, but let's not twist his words around.

End result seems to be the same: Gonzo. You're welcome Coach Mora.

 

[BeauBenken]

Agreed, I haven't seen that mentioned one time until now. He's long been considered an academic risk and was aware what he needed to do. I don't think its a coincidence that the academic issues get leaked and next thing you know he's taking an OV. Also, he puts out a tweet speaking to how if people want you around they'll make it happen. As if we're not supposed to hold him to the same standards of other players/recruits. Now, are those standards too much. That's debatable but its not as if he is getting some kind of poor treatment.

Well we can probably take a wild guess and say that someone on the recruiting trail fed him that line. *cough* Jim Mora *cough*

 

[GoldenDome]

F**k this sucks. We need safeties bad.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Agreed, I haven't seen that mentioned one time until now. He's long been considered an academic risk and was aware what he needed to do. I don't think its a coincidence that the academic issues get leaked and next thing you know he's taking an OV. Also, he puts out a tweet speaking to how if people want you around they'll make it happen. As if we're not supposed to hold him to the same standards of other players/recruits. Now, are those standards too much. That's debatable but its not as if he is getting some kind of poor treatment.

I agree with your first statement but disagree with everything else.

1. You do not know what the tweet was even about. McKinney isnt the kid that tweets with underlying meaning like that.

2. Not relating to you, but its comical how many people "know" whats going on in this recruitment since he tweeted that he was taking an OV this morning.

3. Id try not to hold judgement on someone until all the facts or situations are made clear.

 

[Irishnuke]

Mora is only doing the exact same thing Kelly is. Mora is just better at it.

 

[IrishLax]

We might have to add to that list! Damn it.

lol... we're gonna be what? 4ish away from a dozen if Jones and McKinney end up there? Hopefully my bad guesstimation wasn't actually just prophetic...

 

[Irish#1]

I agree with your first statement but disagree with everything else.

1. You do not know what the tweet was even about. McKinney isnt the kid that tweets with underlying meaning like that.

2. Not relating to you, but its comical how many people "know" whats going on in this recruitment since he tweeted that he was taking an OV this morning.

3. Id try not to hold judgement on someone until all the facts or situations are made clear.

His tweet about "if someone wants you around they'll make it happen" certainly has underlying tones.

If this means his academics aren't in order and he expects BK to grease the wheels, then it tells me he didn't pay a lot of attention to the "Frozen Five".

 

[TheTurningPoint]

His tweet about "if someone wants you around they'll make it happen" certainly has underlying tones.

If this means his academics aren't in order and he expects BK to grease the wheels, then it tells me he didn't pay a lot of attention to the "Frozen Five".

Look through his tweets lol. He is all about the ladies.

Life is all about the girls at that age.

 

[GBdomer]

Mora is treating us like Urban did when he was at Florida, grabbing a few of our recruits as needed. Brutal.

What is Mora suppose to do? Ya the guy is a dirt ball but he plays the recruiting game beautifully, smells blood and goes after it. We try flip kids all the damn time and we will always goes head to head with UCLA for recruits because we hit Cali hard. Aren't we trying to flip one of his top guys? I hate Mora as well but ND recruits some of the best players in the country and lands top talent so other schools will try and pluck our guys when they smell weakness. It's not like Mora called up McKinney last night after he heard the rumors. I am sure these convos have been going on for weeks. Probably why the staff wants 17 safeties in this class.

 

[GBdomer]

Look through his tweets lol. He is all about the ladies.

Life is all about the girls at that age.

Exactly, his Instragram account would have all the "RKG" lovers having a mental breakdown.

 

[IrishLax]

What is Mora suppose to do? Ya the guy is a dirt ball but he plays the recruiting game beautifully, smells blood and goes after it. We try flip kids all the damn time and we will always goes head to head with UCLA for recruits because we hit Cali hard. Aren't we trying to flip one of his top guys? I hate Mora as well but ND recruits some of the best players in the country and lands top talent so other schools will try and pluck our guys when they smell weakness. It's not like Mora called up McKinney last night after he heard the rumors. I am sure these convos have been going on for weeks. Probably why the staff wants 17 safeties in this class.

Yeah, UCLA has at least been interested and in contact with McKinney since last summer.

All of this stuff with Mora seems like a classic "don't hate the player, hate the game"... no one batted an eye when we grabbed a top QB from PSU on account of better academics and good recruiting, or when we flipped Crawford because BVG is not Diaco. Just the way things are.

 

[Rack Em]

Yeah, UCLA has at least been interested and in contact with McKinney since last summer.

All of this stuff with Mora seems like a classic "don't hate the player, hate the game"... no one batted an eye when we grabbed a top QB from PSU on account of better academics and good recruiting, or when we flipped Crawford because BVG is not Diaco. Just the way things are.

 

[Irish#1]

Look through his tweets lol. He is all about the ladies.

Life is all about the girls at that age.

Sorry, I don't follow recruits on Twitter.

 

[GoldenDomer]

Sorry, I don't follow recruits on Twitter.

I wish nobody even thought that was remotely appropriate.

 

[GBdomer]

Sorry, I don't follow recruits on Twitter.

Me either brother

 

[stlnd01]

Yeah, the Mora whining gets tiresome. Vanderdoes was a crappy deal, but there's a strong case to be made that he never really wanted to be here anyway. And what else has Mora done to us besides also be in the hunt for some of our west coast recruits? He plays the game just like any other big-time coach, that's all. If McKinney goes, it'll be because his academics weren't in order. More on us than anything Mora's done.

As some on here like to point out, Cali kids are fickle and like to stay close to home. USC's been down so UCLA's winning more than their typical share. But if they're doing it dirty, it's hard to see how.

 

[yankeehater]

UCLA is and will always be a basketball school. Reggie Miller was recently on Dan Patrick's show and reiterated this point right before (their biggest football) the SC game.

The atmosphere at the Rose Bowl for their games is horrible. MY buddy has a supplier rep who is a Clemson alum and he had us out for a game (awesome time and experience). We reciprocated and invited him out for the Arizona game a couple of years ago and he was so bored with the experience he left at halftime to go back to the car and finish off our tailgate liquid refreshments.

 

[Irish#1]

Yeah, the Mora whining gets tiresome. Vanderdoes was a crappy deal, but there's a strong case to be made that he never really wanted to be here anyway. And what else has Mora done to us besides also be in the hunt for some of our west coast recruits? He plays the game just like any other big-time coach, that's all. If McKinney goes, it'll be because his academics weren't in order. More on us than anything Mora's done.

As some on here like to point out, Cali kids are fickle and like to stay close to home. USC's been down so UCLA's winning more than their typical share. But if they're doing it dirty, it's hard to see how.

It's obvious that the Vanderdoesn't situation left a really bad taste in a lot of peoples minds.

 

[koonja]

I'm at the point where we cut our losses and just pray Mora doesn't decide to take CJ Sanders from us. There's no reason to think CJ will not sign with ND, but with him being good, in Cali, him not having visited in a while, and Mora getting what Mora wants, wouldn't surprise me.

 

[irishff1014]

Yeah, the Mora whining gets tiresome. Vanderdoes was a crappy deal, but there's a strong case to be made that he never really wanted to be here anyway. And what else has Mora done to us besides also be in the hunt for some of our west coast recruits? He plays the game just like any other big-time coach, that's all. If McKinney goes, it'll be because his academics weren't in order. More on us than anything Mora's done.

As some on here like to point out, Cali kids are fickle and like to stay close to home. USC's been down so UCLA's winning more than their typical share. But if they're doing it dirty, it's hard to see how.

Yes I understand it is the young mans responsability to make sure the academics are in order but how does this keep happening? Does no one check through out the year to make sure they still meet the regulations?

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Yes I understand it is the young mans responsability to make sure the academics are in order but how does this keep happening? Does no one check through out the year to make sure they still meet the regulations?

What could they do besides ask the player to decommit or publicly commit elsewhere? At one point is a student definitely disqualified? Often times, it could come down to the final tests/papers. I don't see how decommits can be attributed to the staff unless they gave up.

Our staff go out on a limb for a number of prospects every year because they are worth the risk. They believe Prentice was worth the risk, knowing this could happen. If he would've qualified, none of us would've known and we'd be happy to have him.

Sometimes it just doesn't work out in our favor.

 

[Irish#1]

Yes I understand it is the young mans responsability to make sure the academics are in order but how does this keep happening? Does no one check through out the year to make sure they still meet the regulations?

I have to belief the staff stays in touch and asks the kid about his academics and if he's making progress, but they can't get the actual grades from anyone but the student and parents. Given that, the kid could hedge the truth hoping it will all work out. It could turn a little ugly to ask the kid to show you his grades to verify he's making progress.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Yes I understand it is the young mans responsability to make sure the academics are in order but how does this keep happening? Does no one check through out the year to make sure they still meet the regulations?

I think that you are overthinking to a point. Coaches/Programs check in with the kid throughout the year, but there also only certain times one can take tests throughout the year.

 

[irishff1014]

I have to belief the staff stays in touch and asks the kid about his academics and if he's making progress, but they can't get the actual grades from anyone but the student and parents. Given that, the kid could hedge the truth hoping it will all work out. It could turn a little ugly to ask the kid to show you his grades to verify he's making progress.

Thats what I am getting at. If I am a recruit and I know I am a slack ass in the class room and a ND offer doesn't get you excited I don't know what will.

But if I am struggling and have a great relationship with my recruiter I would be honest with him. Look I am struggling with this class but I am getting help so I can still be good for ND. Maybe I am just to honest.

And further more if I am a recruiter I want them to trust me too. Be honest and know if he is struggling to keep an eye on it and in courage them to strive for better.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Train to get better Work hard to get stronger <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PersonalTrainer?src=hash">#PersonalTrainer</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GrindDontStop?src=hash">#GrindDontStop</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Herbalife?src=hash">#Herbalife</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RoadToRiches?src=hash">#RoadToRiches</a> &#55357;&#56490;&#55357;&#56490;&#55357;&#56490;&#55357;&#56490;&#55356;&#57152;&#55356;&#57152;&#55356;&#57152; <a href="http://t.co/KB1C7apmM5">pic.twitter.com/KB1C7apmM5</a></p>— P.Mckinney#⃣4⃣ (@LilP_JustCool) <a href="https://twitter.com/LilP_JustCool/status/545774823075774465">December 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Not exactly a discouraging tweet.

Also can't help but notice he's training at a Planet Fitness.

 

[irishandy]

His twitter account also has these positive tweets:

 P.Mckinney#⃣4⃣ retweeted


Bryan Driskell @CoachDrisk78
· 6h 6 hours ago
Senior clips of the most underrated S in the country, @LilP_JustCool gave him 4.5 grade with 5 star upside. ND commit



P.Mckinney#⃣4⃣
‏@LilP_JustCool I'm feeling good cause I feel like I did good on all my exams ready for the break fr

Hopefully he sticks to his Irish pledge!!

 

[Irish YJ]

ND Gear, shamrocks....
Looks all Bruins