'11 SC QB Everett Golson (FSU transfer)

[NDBoiler]

Golson has 13 TD passes in 4 games. He had 12 for the entire 2012 season.

His 33 yd run is a career best.

He's 15-1, Winningest Percentage QB Stater in ND History.

It's 5 games not 4, but still very good.

 

[dshans]

... He's 15-1, Winningest Percentage QB Stater in ND History.

Not so fast, my friend. You're not quite off the hook yet!

 

[Irish2155]

Golson has 13 TD passes in 5 games. He had 12 for the entire 2012 season.

His 33 yd run is a career best.

He's 15-1, Winningest Percentage QB Stater in ND History.

Golson has the best play/TD throw of the season. Heisman winners have plays like that.

 

[yankeeND]

Game winner was a big time Heisman moment and I told any and everybody that would listen. He has got to protect the football better when running. That is honestly my only real knock on him as that has been concerning since 2012. Otherwise he is phenomenal and ridiculously clutch!

 

[koonja]

Not that anyone else wasn't, but it's awesome how likeable Everett Golson is. He's fun to watch, has swagger, is completely humble, has chose to take the tough road at ND, has a big smile. I love the guy.

 

[KPENN]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Everett_Golson5">@Everett_Golson5</a> just said he would lock <a href="https://twitter.com/JLin7">@JLin7</a> up in a one on one...<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/idk?src=hash">#idk</a> lol</p>— amir carlisle (@Solarbot3) <a href="https://twitter.com/Solarbot3/status/519630354160689155">October 7, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Everett Golson faces UNC. He almost went there. He almost played hoops. What could've been? <a href="http://t.co/Zo4KZ4JNPB">http://t.co/Zo4KZ4JNPB</a> <a href="http://t.co/8JMgb3lISq">pic.twitter.com/8JMgb3lISq</a></p>— Matt Fortuna (@Matt_Fortuna) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matt_Fortuna/status/519851478576799744">October 8, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[PANDFAN]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Everett Golson faces UNC. He almost went there. He almost played hoops. What could've been? <a href="http://t.co/Zo4KZ4JNPB">http://t.co/Zo4KZ4JNPB</a> <a href="http://t.co/8JMgb3lISq">pic.twitter.com/8JMgb3lISq</a></p>— Matt Fortuna (@Matt_Fortuna) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matt_Fortuna/status/519851478576799744">October 8, 2014</a></blockquote>
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sounds like a 30/30

 

[Emcee77]

Thanks. I wasn't sure if the year he sat out was considered some kind of academic exception since he was not part of the team. Is this a different situation than, say Julius Jones?

It's a different situation eligibility-wise because Jones played as a freshman, so he could "get back" the year he sat out; in other words, by being suspended, he actually gained the opportunity to stay at ND for a 5th year that he wouldn't otherwise have had. The same thing will happen with KVR or Ishaq Williams if by some chance they are suspended for this entire season; they will gain a year of eligibility in 2016 and 2015, respectively, that they wouldn't otherwise have had. Golson, on the other hand, did not play as a freshman, so he already has a 5th year available, and you don't get a sixth just because you sat out two years.

Not that anyone else wasn't, but it's awesome how likeable Everett Golson is. He's fun to watch, has swagger, is completely humble, has chose to take the tough road at ND, has a big smile. I love the guy.

Out of context I might have thought that was an oxymoron, but I know exactly what you mean and I totally agree. Somehow Golson both has swagger and is really humble. What a great combination.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Question about EG and a 5th Year.

It's my understanding that the student has to have graduated and apply for graduate school.

With the semester that EG missed, is he on course to graduate so that he could be considered for a 5th year?

 

[wizards8507]

Question about EG and a 5th Year.

It's my understanding that the student has to have graduated and apply for graduate school.

With the semester that EG missed, is he on course to graduate so that he could be considered for a 5th year?

I might be wrong, but I think that's a Notre Dame rule, not an NCAA rule.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I might be wrong, but I think that's a Notre Dame rule, not an NCAA rule.

Yes, it is a ND rule. I'm just wondering if EG will qualify for a 5th year from ND if they keep that stipulation that you have to have graduated and apply for grad school to be even considered for a 5th year.

 

[koonja]

Yes, it is a ND rule. I'm just wondering if EG will qualify for a 5th year from ND if they keep that stipulation that you have to have graduated and apply for grad school to be even considered for a 5th year.

My guess is that after the season, they'll spend the 2015 calendar year forming a committee to determine if Golson would have been eligible to return for a 5th year.

Decision coming spring, 2016.

 

[wizards8507]

Yes, it is a ND rule. I'm just wondering if EG will qualify for a 5th year from ND if they keep that stipulation that you have to have graduated and apply for grad school to be even considered for a 5th year.

I'm not sure about the "letter" of the rule, but I think "spirit" of the rule is more generally that you have to be pursuing a degree. They don't want players who are only taking pottery or ballroom dance. If Golson missed enough class during his suspension that he'd come back for his fifth year as an academic Senior, that might be enough to satisfy them.

 

[SoDakDomer]

Question about EG and a 5th Year.

It's my understanding that the student has to have graduated and apply for graduate school.

With the semester that EG missed, is he on course to graduate so that he could be considered for a 5th year?

I believe that most student athletes are required to take enough clasess to graduate in 4 years. Meaning that once they do that if they want to participate in a 5th year of athletics they need to be a graduate student. With EG he missed the sememster so he still may need an additional semester to complete his undergrad degree, which would allow him the extra semester needed to play his 5th year without being a grad student. Just a theory anyways.

 

[koonja]

I'm guessing if ND/BK thought that he wouldn't be eligible, it would have been raised as a QU to him by now.

 

[GowerND11]

I'm not sure about the "letter" of the rule, but I think "spirit" of the rule is more generally that you have to be pursuing a degree. They don't want players who are only taking pottery or ballroom dance. If Golson missed enough class during his suspension that he'd come back for his fifth year as an academic Senior, that might be enough to satisfy them.

I'm pretty confident I read/heard/saw/etc that Golson was still on course to graduate on time, as the football players usually take summer courses to compensate for the work load being missed during the season. Therefore he had some credits to spare with the suspension. Plus he was an EE so that gave him the benefit of an extra semester.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I'm not sure about the "letter" of the rule, but I think "spirit" of the rule is more generally that you have to be pursuing a degree. They don't want players who are only taking pottery or ballroom dance. If Golson missed enough class during his suspension that he'd come back for his fifth year as an academic Senior, that might be enough to satisfy them.

I believe that most student athletes are required to take enough clasess to graduate in 4 years. Meaning that once they do that if they want to participate in a 5th year of athletics they need to be a graduate student. With EG he missed the sememster so he still may need an additional semester to complete his undergrad degree, which would allow him the extra semester needed to play his 5th year without being a grad student. Just a theory anyways.

Thanks for the insight. Seems logical

 

[Emcee77]

I'm not sure about the "letter" of the rule, but I think "spirit" of the rule is more generally that you have to be pursuing a degree. They don't want players who are only taking pottery or ballroom dance. If Golson missed enough class during his suspension that he'd come back for his fifth year as an academic Senior, that might be enough to satisfy them.

Yeah, I have a similar understanding. I mean, Chris Salvi was allowed to play a 5th year, and he hadn't graduated because some of his credits from Butler didn't count toward his ND degree.

Like wizards said, they just don't want people taking pottery or ballroom dance. They want to know that you are taking that 5th year because you are pursuing some valid academic goal, not just going through the motions in enough classes to be eligible for football. I don't think you really HAVE to be in graduate school, if there are extenuating circumstances.

But this discussion is likely all academic anyway (no pun intended) because I'm sure Golson can graduate by the end of the spring semester. All football players are on track to graduate in 3.5 years. Golson missed a semester, so he should need only one more to get back on track, and that's not even accounting for the fact that he was an EE so he might have been ahead of the game before his suspension.

 

[kmoose]

Chris Salvi was allowed to play a 5th year, and he hadn't graduated because some of his credits from Butler didn't count toward his ND degree.

Chris Salvi did graduate in 4 years at Notre Dame, though. That might account for the apparent exception to the rule.

 

[Emcee77]

Chris Salvi did graduate in 4 years at Notre Dame, though. That might account for the apparent exception to the rule.

It might, but I doubt it. Like I said above, I think the point of the Faculty Board of Athletics is just to make sure the players are still at ND because they are still pursuing a valid academic goal. I just can't think of a good reason for requiring the players to be in graduate school without exception.

 

[wizards8507]

Heisman Watch: Guys, Does Anybody Want This Thing? «

The Survivor: Everett Golson, QB, Notre Dame

Everett Golson’s past two games highlight the importance of competition in the Heisman race. Last week, we downgraded him for throwing two interceptions against Syracuse despite his otherwise impeccable performance, because the Orange aren’t exactly a paragon of defensive excellence. After Saturday’s showing against Stanford, however, Golson’s stock is going up like the club on a Tuesday. Though he completed fewer than half his passes for a paltry 5.6 yards per attempt, he staged a game-winning drive against the top defense in the FBS, which culminated in a potential Heisman moment:

Consequently, the Irish remain undefeated, and barring a loss to 17-point underdog North Carolina, Golson will travel to Tallahassee in Week 8 with the opportunity to cement his status. Knowing the Fighting Irish’s history, they’d probably follow a victory over no. 1 Florida State with an inexplicable loss to Navy, but we’ll cross that bridge if and when we get there.

 

[yankeeND]

Heisman Watch: What are Everett Golson's chances?

1. QB Everett Golson, Notre Dame (Last week's ranking: No. 6)

Golson gets the nod for coming through in the clutch: Down by four points with time clicking away, Golson connected on a fourth-down pass to tight end Ben Koyack to lift the undefeated Fighting Irish past Stanford. For now, this play alone — not to mention his 17 touchdowns and 1,521 yards of offense — is enough to lift Golson to the top of the list. But it may be temporary: Notre Dame needs to win at Florida State on Oct. 18.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

What list

 

[jspags10pg]

If Everett didn't have 4 turnovers against Syracuse I wouldn't have as much of a a problem with that list but he shouldn't be number one at this point, IMO. He still has plenty of chances to prove himself tho. A great game against FSU would go a long way.

The Stanford game (and last drive and play) should boost him up a bit even tho his numbers weren't great since the game was played in such poor passing conditions.

Right now I'd have Prescott or Gurley at #2 right behind VanGorder.

 

[BeauBenken]

2. RB Todd Gurley, Georgia (Last week's ranking: No. 3)
Gurley returns to his perch as the top-ranked running back in the Heisman race. He had another perfect afternoon against Vanderbilt, contributing 163 yards and two scores on the ground and tossing a 50-yard touchdown in Georgia's 44-17 win. The scoring toss was new; the rest has become par for the course.

I just want to point out that Gurley's 50 yard pass was NOT a touchdown. It is really odd because I've heard this a couple times on television and in articles, but if you look up the play, it is definitely NOT a TD.

This is the freaking USA Today...

Shoddy journalism, am I right?

 

[yankeeND]

I just want to point out that Gurley's 50 yard pass was NOT a touchdown. It is really odd because I've heard this a couple times on television and in articles, but if you look up the play, it is definitely NOT a TD.


Shotty journalism, am I right?

Agreed, that is piss poor but most of it is anymore. Facts and integrity just seem to not matter anymore.

 

[BobbyMac]

If Everett didn't have 4 turnovers against Syracuse I wouldn't have as much of a a problem with that list but he shouldn't be number one at this point, IMO. He still has plenty of chances to prove himself tho. A great game against FSU would go a long way.

The Stanford game (and last drive and play) should boost him up a bit even tho his numbers weren't great since the game was played in such poor passing conditions.

Right now I'd have Prescott or Gurley at #2 right behind VanGorder.

Hopefully by the end of the year, his 4 TO's will be over shadowed by his stat line of 32 of 39 for 360something yards, 4 TD's and 25 consecutive pass completions.

His worst game was still statistically special, not to mention victorious. That could be the factor that seals the award for him.

That and a victory at FSU.

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[PANDFAN]

I just want to point out that Gurley's 50 yard pass was NOT a touchdown. It is really odd because I've heard this a couple times on television and in articles, but if you look up the play, it is definitely NOT a TD.

This is the freaking USA Today...

Shotty journalism, am I right?

yepper
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[dshans]

Shotty journalism, am I right?

I just noticed that you're telling me to shut up, soooo ...

It's "shoddy," you wet-behind-the-ears twit!!!