'15 CA QB Blake Barnett (Arizona State Transfer)

[Kingbish01]

125-135 lbs MAX

 

[IrishLion]

nice run by flake barnett

Flake Golson had a few nice plays for ND tonight.

 

[ThePiombino]

All you guys would have your trousers at your ankles if he was still committed to us. GTFOH with this butt hurt.

 

[BobbyMac]

All you guys would have your trousers at your ankles if he was still committed to us. GTFOH with this butt hurt.

Not all.

I'm happy he's gone in the same way I'm glad Kiel is gone. There is no "if" left in the equation. Like the saying goes, "Once the bell's been rung, ya can't un-ring it."

Most believe ND will get a high 4 or 5 star QB in '16 as the depth chart is more appealing to that class' QB's. You have to admit, a future rotation of Zaire, Kizer and say Henry is better than Zaire, Kizer and Barnett if only that you get an extra season of eligibility from that group.

If Kizer wasn't in the fold yes... trousers around ankles would have been in order along with some crying like a lil b****.

 

[dublinirish]

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[ThePiombino]

Not all.

I'm happy he's gone in the same way I'm glad Kiel is gone. There is no "if" left in the equation. Like the saying goes, "Once the bell's been rung, ya can't un-ring it."

Most believe ND will get a high 4 or 5 star QB in '16 as the depth chart is more appealing to that class' QB's. You have to admit, a future rotation of Zaire, Kizer and say Henry is better than Zaire, Kizer and Barnett if only that you get an extra season of eligibility from that group.

If Kizer wasn't in the fold yes... trousers around ankles would have been in order along with some crying like a lil b****.

To the first bolded point: building our future QB depth on assumption doesn't seem the most prudent of choices, but I understand your point.

To the second bolded: No, I don't have to admit that, for two reasons: 1) a bird in hand is worth two in the bush. Since we have no commitment(s) for '16, this theory holds no waters. Even if we did, signing day is 17 months away. 2) All indications are that BB was possibly going to be a player from day 1, AT LEAST push for the job - whether or not he would have gotten it is no more/less certain whether or not our (imaginary) '16 QB would pan out.

In short, in case it's not completely clear, at this point I do not view losing BB as a good thing...at all. Land one of the '16 studs then maybe we can start thinking that way...

 

[T Town Tommy]

I still think BB would have had a much bigger upside in the Irish offense than at Bama. I will give wonder boy a little credit as he is using Sims in a similar manner that BB would be used, but the Irish losing BB, at least for the moment, can not be considered a "good thing."

Once ND locks up their next Qb, then the debate can begin.

 

[IrishLion]

Having Henry or some other '16 stud will be fantastic...

But having watched BK's offenses at UC, and seeing it evolve at ND, I'm of the opinion that BB is about as close to a perfect fit for BK's system as there could possibly be. I'm still bummed that we lost him.

However, I'm not dissatisfied with the way things are shaking out now, in the aftermath, either. As long as Golson is back, and Zaire and Kizer continue to develop behind the scenes, the QB position in South Bend will be more than fine, especially if a stud hops on board for '16.

 

[ThePiombino]

Having Henry or some other '16 stud will be fantastic...

But having watched BK's offenses at UC, and seeing it evolve at ND, I'm of the opinion that BB is about as close to a perfect fit for BK's system as there could possibly be. I'm still bummed that we lost him.

However, I'm not dissatisfied with the way things are shaking out now, in the aftermath, either. As long as Golson is back, and Zaire and Kizer continue to develop behind the scenes, the QB position in South Bend will be more than fine, especially if a stud hops on board for '16.

Spot on.

 

[BobbyMac]

His actions showed that he was NEVER the guy. As much as I wanted Kiel to be the guy, he never was the guy either. It's like saying, if the world was still flat, you guys would be happy. The world was never flat and Barnett was never Irish. It was simply a marketing ploy that many fell for from Team Barnett. Randy Moss was more Irish than Barnett.

Had he stayed Irish, my opinion is he or Kizer would have left and that's ok. Sign all you can when you can and let the playing time figure out who the starters, back ups, bench warmers and transfers are. I know the process, I went through it on both sides.

*BUT... the fact that the Irish skipped a QB in '15 and the class of '14 QB may not be a "franchise" guy in some people's eyes will definitely make the odds of landing a high star QB in '16 greater. Kids want to get on the field. Nobody from the class of '15 was seeing the field until '18 at the earliest as Zaire is the most obvious heir apparent in college football.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I still think BB would have had a much bigger upside in the Irish offense than at Bama. I will give wonder boy a little credit as he is using Sims in a similar manner that BB would be used, but the Irish losing BB, at least for the moment, can not be considered a "good thing."

Once ND locks up their next Qb, then the debate can begin.

It can never be a good thing that we lost Blake. We can turn lemons into lemonade if we end up getting someone great in '16 but that doesn't remove the fact that we are missing a QB in 15. Lemonade is better than lemons but I wanted a beer.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Who cares

 

[BobbyMac]

Who cares

I do.

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[anarin]

I do.

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You shouldn't. It's over.

 

[Rhode Irish]

It can never be a good thing that we lost Blake. We can turn lemons into lemonade if we end up getting someone great in '16 but that doesn't remove the fact that we are missing a QB in 15. Lemonade is better than lemons but I wanted a beer.

Like....a shandy?

 

[BobbyMac]

You shouldn't. It's over.

Hoke and Skunkbear are over too but still rank as the #2 & #3 threads. So what exactly is your point?

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[ThePiombino]

His actions showed that he was NEVER the guy. As much as I wanted Kiel to be the guy, he never was the guy either. It's like saying, if the world was still flat, you guys would be happy. The world was never flat and Barnett was never Irish. It was simply a marketing ploy that many fell for from Team Barnett. Randy Moss was more Irish than Barnett.

Had he stayed Irish, my opinion is he or Kizer would have left and that's ok. Sign all you can when you can and let the playing time figure out who the starters, back ups, bench warmers and transfers are. I know the process, I went through it on both sides.

*BUT... the fact that the Irish skipped a QB in '15 and the class of '14 QB may not be a "franchise" guy in some people's eyes will definitely make the odds of landing a high star QB in '16 greater. Kids want to get on the field. Nobody from the class of '15 was seeing the field until '18 at the earliest as Zaire is the most obvious heir apparent in college football.

Good Lord, please dial back the hyperbole.

 

[BobbyMac]

Good Lord, please dial back the hyperbole.

He's not? Who is?

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[ThePiombino]

He's not? Who is?

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As far as I'm concerned he's tied with every other #2 QB in the country.

 

[dublinirish]

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[Rambler09]

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Posting highlights showing how awesome he's playing is a twist of the knife. This is like clicking through your ex-girlfriend's Facebook photos- merely confirming the fact that she's still hot.

 

[connect the dots]

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With the Brandon Wimbush commitment, Blake Barnett will become an indistinct blur in the 2015 recruitment class rear view mirror. Not only does Wimbush possess a stronger arm and body than Barnett, he will prove to have a more articulate and more confident personality - traits essential for a successful quarterback. This is the year for quarterback commitment flippin', and with this matchup, Notre Dame has come out the winner!

 

[Booslum31]

Does anyone else think that he looks like the bully "Farkus" from Christmas Story?

 

[Crazy Balki]

Posting highlights showing how awesome he's playing is a twist of the knife. This is like clicking through your ex-girlfriend's Facebook photos- merely confirming the fact that she's still hot.

Until you realize that you have a "hotter" current girlfriend. I'm pretty convinced that Wimbush is at least as good as Barnett. He doesn't have the pretty stat line that Flake has, but he plays SIGNIFICANTLY better competition. Barnett seems to be a little bit more polished, but Wimbush has a better arms, wheels and pocket awareness. He doesn't just scramble around in the pocket, but he knows where to go. That's a benefit from playing strong competition, because your athleticism alone won't get you there without mental awareness.

 

[ryno 24]

I am very happy with Wimbush but Barnett is a really talented and I am disappointed he did not stay. Saying that I think we won the situation and have set ourselves up for the next two years for quarterbacks.

 

[IrishLax]

Barnett is a better talent with better pro upside than Wimbush, IMO.

But anyone stupid enough to want to go play for Lane Kiffin clearly doesn't have a full set of marbles up there... so I'll take the bird in hand who was actually actively seeking the best academic school for himself 10 out of 10 times.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Barnett was a rising stud. We all spouted out a ton of hyperbole about him, and its mostly been verified in camp settings. Now that we have a new QB (even though he is also ranked incredibly high), we risk sounding like we are full of crap if we say we like him better than Blake. Therefore, we do not.

That's not to say that Blake isn't better QB than Wimbush--most analysts seem to think he is. But in football-poster world, there is only one respectable position at this point: "I still think Blake is amazing, but..."

The "ND got the best QB this cycle" capital was spent on Barnett and will be rejected out of hand if applied to Wimbush.

 

[Ricochet]

Blake is a better talent but not necessarily a better QB. There are a ton of people with talent that never come close to living up to anywhere near there ability.

Blake has better tools to work with but unless he maximizes his abilities it won't matter against players that are talented just not as talent as he is that have the intangibles and develop three slightly lesser set of tools more than he does.

 

[Irishnuke]

I'm glad we landed Wimbush and I think he'll be great, but if things went the staff's way, Barnett would still be our QB.

 

[BobbyMac]

Until you realize that you have a "hotter" current girlfriend. I'm pretty convinced that Wimbush is at least as good as Barnett. He doesn't have the pretty stat line that Flake has, but he plays SIGNIFICANTLY better competition. Barnett seems to be a little bit more polished, but Wimbush has a better arms, wheels and pocket awareness. He doesn't just scramble around in the pocket, but he knows where to go. That's a benefit from playing strong competition, because your athleticism alone won't get you there without mental awareness.

There is no way St Peter's schedule is significantly better. I seriously doubt it's better at all. I looked at their schedule and they don't play Paramus, Bosco or St. Joe's.