'16 MI OLB Daelin Hayes (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[GBdomer]

He doesn't buy it that he committed.

lol what? So just because he liked ND but liked USC more there is no way possible right?

 

[Rack Em]

lol what? So just because he liked ND but liked USC more there is no way possible right?

Top of this page Bro Montana

 

[GBdomer]

Tell him to make a Youtube video about how he feels about this and that very kid makes a bad decision because they didn't go to ND

 

[Pachuco]

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[Crazy Balki]

He doesn't buy it that he committed.

No, no. You just made that up. I said I didn't think he'll stay committed, not that he didn't commit at all. I take shit for my "optimism", but at the very least get your facts straight before trying to do just that.

 

[Crazy Balki]

lol what? So just because he liked ND but liked USC more there is no way possible right?

Uggh. Could you please read the updates before giving me shit, because you're just making yourself look stupid.

 

[STLDomer]

I'm not buying this commitment.

He doesn't buy it that he committed.

No, no. You just made that up.

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[Crazy Balki]

Tell him to make a Youtube video about how he feels about this and that very kid makes a bad decision because they didn't go to ND

Pretty much a prime example of the blind leading the blind.

 

[Crazy Balki]

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Way to go man. I'm really not in the mood to deal with this shit right now, but you guys are really starting to piss me off. I said I didn't buy that this would stick, and I stand by that. If you can't comprehend that, then I'm sorry for not spelling it out for you.

 

[Luckylucci]

Wiltfong posted that as of last night Hayes camp was still ND but the visit kept getting better. I think even Wiltfong is surprised by how fast this changed. IMO, if he doesn't move to Cali this has a long ways to go. Keep in mind that this kid almost committed to UM at one point. He's a very smart kid but seems impressionable. It wouldn't surprise me to see a change over the next year especially if he stays in the Midwest.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Okay, I'm tired of dealing with this. I'm really fed up with some of these guys right. And what's really disappointing is that it's from regulars here that are usually stand up fellows. So, since I am CLEARLY out of line with my conversation, I'll do you all a favor and just leave this thread, because my 2 cents are apparently not welcome here.

 

[STLDomer]

Way to go man. I'm really not in the mood to deal with this shit right now, but you guys are really starting to piss me off. I said I didn't buy that this would stick, and I stand by that. If you can't comprehend that, then I'm sorry for not spelling it out for you.

WUT.

He literally quoted EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID and then you said he made it up and to get his facts straight.

 

[Crazy Balki]

WUT.

He literally quoted EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID and then you said he made it up and to get his facts straight.

No he did not. What are you guys not getting from this? He stated that I didn't buy THAT HE COMMITTED, I said I didn't buy THE COMMITMENT itself. Not the same. One indicates that I don't believe that he committed in the first place. The other is stating that I question how "committed" to SC he really is.

 

[yankeeND]

Im just posting because I want to see my sweet new avatar! Weeoo I think ND Sean's not buying it.

 

[STLDomer]

No he did not. What are you guys not getting from this? He stated that I didn't buy THAT HE COMMITTED, I said I didn't buy THE COMMITMENT itself. Not the same. One indicates that I don't believe that he committed in the first place. The other is stating that I question how "committed" to SC he really is.

Okay whatever ya caught on your little semantic difference. Congratulations. Either way your doing your annoying optimism based on nothing but green kool aid schtick yet again.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Okay whatever ya caught on your little semantic difference. Congratulations. Either way your doing your annoying optimism based on nothing but green kool aid schtick yet again.

And you're starting a trend of making up shit. Popular trend among this thread it seems. I have a pretty legitimate basis around my "optimism" why he won't stay committed to USC, due to what he says. Can it be wrong? Possibly, but at the end of the day, there isn't much to base it on. I'm pretty sure everybody here knows that verbal commits are almost essentially meaningless in this day and age of recruiting.

 

[Grahambo]

Quick tip (because nobody asked for it):

Instead of poking fun at NDSean44, how about some of you grow up and let him say his peace? I must have forgotten when this site turned into an elementary school playground with some of you acting like a 4th grade bully.

Quit acting like a keyboard warrior and maybe start to act like ND fans/alumni who like to claim they are above this type of idiocy.

 

[Old Man Mike]

..... another thread derailed into irrelevancy by things of no importance, thus ruining it for everyone else.

My thanks for all the rest of us.

 

[Rack Em]

..... another thread derailed into irrelevancy by things of no importance, thus ruining it for everyone else.

My thanks for all the rest of us.

Yeah STLDomer quit ruining it for everybody else.

 

[irishog77]

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[Luckylucci]

Debuted at #17 in the rivals 100.

 

[jerboski]

Debuted at #17 in the rivals 100.

Damn, I think this one boils down to whether he moves to Cali for high school or stays in Midwest for it. If he stays, I like our chances of flipping him however if he moves out there then I think its over.

 

[TomHaverford]

Debuted at #17 in the rivals 100.

how does a kid who didn't play varsity as a freshman and didn't play at all except for a few games because of an injury his sophomore year rated as the #17 prospect in the entire country for his class? Because USC offered him and he committed early? That basically it?

Don't get that one. They have him knocking on 5* status and he hasn't done a thing on the actual football field. I don't think they should even make these lists until after these kids finish their junior seasons.

 

[IrishLax]

how does a kid who didn't play varsity as a freshman and didn't play at all except for a few games because of an injury his sophomore year rated as the #17 prospect in the entire country for his class? Because USC offered him and he committed early? That basically it?

Don't get that one. They have him knocking on 5* status and he hasn't done a thing on the actual football field. I don't think they should even make these lists until after these kids finish their junior seasons.

Seriously.

Not trying to be a downer, but early rankings are duuuuuuumb. A very large portion of kids isn't even close to physically maturing. So much of early rankings like this is just extrapolation and guesswork.

I'd respect early rankings a lot more if they rated kids as they are instead of projecting. So if you evaluate the kid as a senior (i.e. view his tape as senior tape) and you grade him accordingly, it would make a lot of sense. And it would allow kids to naturally move up their grade and the rankings as they mature/improve.

Just some food for thought.

 

[ThePiombino]

Seriously.

Not trying to be a downer, but early rankings are duuuuuuumb. A very large portion of kids isn't even close to physically maturing. So much of early rankings like this is just extrapolation and guesswork.

I'd respect early rankings a lot more if they rated kids as they are instead of projecting. So if you evaluate the kid as a senior (i.e. view his tape as senior tape) and you grade him accordingly, it would make a lot of sense. And it would allow kids to naturally move up their grade and the rankings as they mature/improve.

Just some food for thought.

Yeah, but that wouldn't jive with the lazy reporting and self-serving that coincides with most of these services.

 

[TomHaverford]

Seriously.

Not trying to be a downer, but early rankings are duuuuuuumb. A very large portion of kids isn't even close to physically maturing. So much of early rankings like this is just extrapolation and guesswork.

I'd respect early rankings a lot more if they rated kids as they are instead of projecting. So if you evaluate the kid as a senior (i.e. view his tape as senior tape) and you grade him accordingly, it would make a lot of sense. And it would allow kids to naturally move up their grade and the rankings as they mature/improve.

Just some food for thought.

Agree completely.

Hayes is a really good athlete with really good size and length, but Jaylon Smith he is not. He flat out is just not that type of freakish athlete. If he was I could maybe see an argument for having him so high despite doing literally nothing on the field. Wouldn't agree with it, but I could at least see where they were coming from. That ranking just makes zero sense.

 

[dad4aa]

The real question is, if he does decommit from USC, will his ratings drop at the next evaluation.

 

[Grahambo]

The real question is, if he does decommit from USC, will his ratings drop at the next evaluation.

Depends..if he commits to ND then yes, if he goes to the SEC, no.

 

[DillonHall]

how does a kid who didn't play varsity as a freshman and didn't play at all except for a few games because of an injury his sophomore year rated as the #17 prospect in the entire country for his class? Because USC offered him and he committed early? That basically it?

Don't get that one. They have him knocking on 5* status and he hasn't done a thing on the actual football field. I don't think they should even make these lists until after these kids finish their junior seasons.

I know it's pointless, but I find it entertaining, so I still look.

 

[Irish#1]

Seriously.

Not trying to be a downer, but early rankings are duuuuuuumb. A very large portion of kids isn't even close to physically maturing. So much of early rankings like this is just extrapolation and guesswork.

I'd respect early rankings a lot more if they rated kids as they are instead of projecting. So if you evaluate the kid as a senior (i.e. view his tape as senior tape) and you grade him accordingly, it would make a lot of sense. And it would allow kids to naturally move up their grade and the rankings as they mature/improve.

Just some food for thought.

Ya Think!? I remember when Yogi Ferrel was rated the best 4th grade basketball player in the country. Big article in the paper. This entire evaluation, ratings, recruiting, specialization of sports has gone too far.