Israeli ground invasion of Gaza-What a day!!

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The top is a "rocket" from Hamas, the bottom is from an Israeli missile. Not exactly the same.

The racists in Israel should show more appreciation for the 1,500 "rocket" fireworks display Hamas put on for them in the past two weeks.
 

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The top is a "rocket" from Hamas, the bottom is from an Israeli missile. Not exactly the same.

Actually, it is the same. If you are 5-8 and 120lbs and punch me in the face repeatedly am I supposed to restrain myself and simply poke you in the eye because I am 6-6, 280? Sorry, you are getting punched.

Sorry my fist is bigger than yours.

Maybe you shouldn't have punched me in the first place...no?

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Actually, it is the same. If you are 5-8 and 120lbs and punch me in the face repeatedly am I supposed to restrain myself and simply poke you in the eye because I am 6-6, 280? Sorry, you are getting punched.

Sorry my fist is bigger than yours.

Maybe you shouldn't have punched me in the first place...no?

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This is complete bullshit. You don't have a clue. Israel is a racist and fascist state. They bulldoze 20,000 to 25,000 Palestinian homes every year. This is colonialism.

Just out of curiousity.......... what race is Israel biased against?
 

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This is complete bullshit. You don't have a clue. Israel is a racist and fascist state. They bulldoze 20,000 to 25,000 Palestinian homes every year. This is colonialism.

Racist state? Don't play that card, it's off suit here. Race has nothing to do with this. They are all the same race.

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Racist state? Don't play that card, it's off suite here. Race has nothing to do with this. They are all the same race.

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No they aren't, the majority of Israelis are European. That's why its colonialism.
 

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Israel is protecting it's border, it's not on the offensive like Hamas and other related groups. Israel isn't making strategic moves to position itself to capture land or invade a country. Israel has every right to ensure the border of their country is protected against unreasonable harm and force. Isreal has 0 interest to go on the offensive ... That's the biggest difference between the two sides and one of the strongest reasons we support Israel..
 

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Amazing how many people jump to the defense of Israel for protecting their borders (which I'm on board with), yet we see a very different conversation when we talk about (peacefully) protecting our own borders.
 

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Racist state? Don't play that card, it's off suit here. Race has nothing to do with this. They are all the same race.

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Look up the term Ashkenazi and try to see how many citizens in modern day Israel or Zionist around the world are actually Semitic people.
 

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Israel is protecting it's border, it's not on the offensive like Hamas and other related groups. Israel isn't making strategic moves to position itself to capture land or invade a country. Israel has every right to ensure the border of their country is protected against unreasonable harm and force. Isreal has 0 interest to go on the offensive ... That's the biggest difference between the two sides and one of the strongest reasons we support Israel..

Israel is on the offensive every day. 20,000+ Palestinian homes are destroyed every year in the West Bank. These Palestinians become refugees again and Israeli settlers move in. New "no Palestinians allowed" roads are then built between these communities.
 

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Look up the term Ashkenazi and try to see how many citizens in modern day Israel or Zionist around the world are actually Semitic people.

I don't need to look anything up... this is my field. Everybody involved is the same race except for maybe some Ethiopian Jews caught in the crossfire.

THIS IS A CULTURAL, ETHNIC... AND SPECIFICALLY A RELIGIOUS CONFLICT.

This thread has the sociological aptitude of a Bama board.


***EDIT*** No hard feelings Redbar... Anybody located in my all time favorite song is OK by me!

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Look up the term Ashkenazi and try to see how many citizens in modern day Israel or Zionist around the world are actually Semitic people.

What does the the prison in Harry Potter got to do with it?
 

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I hate this crap...

A lot of people are blind to how Israel conducts themselves... which, to put it mildly, would be completely unpalatable to most Americans.

At the same time, the completely inaccurate pro-Hamas propaganda bullshit being spewed forth by some in this thread is ridiculous. SMH. It's "cool" to be anti-Israel these days like every other trendy counter-culture thing. But as nlroma1o said rather eloquently... "read a book". It's Israel against the world and if you put any other country in a similar situation the result for their neighbors would probably be MUCH worse.
 

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Amazing how many people jump to the defense of Israel for protecting their borders (which I'm on board with), yet we see a very different conversation when we talk about (peacefully) protecting our own borders.

Borders that were established in 1948 by outside forces (including the USA) and expanded since with military aggression and the continued settlement of contested land. The insistence of the Israelis to build settlements (an indication that they plan to expand their borders) on land that historically belonged to someone else is a key point in the conflict.

If you want to talk about protecting land or protecting borders, you are backing the wrong side in this conflict. The land was taken from the Palestinians, who were too weak and disorganized at the time to resist. They are now fighting back to regain what was rightfully there's before it was taken following World War II.

Since you like to compare this situation with others. Here's a scenario for you. Someone takes your home and property by force. You are left homeless. Do you have the right to fight to regain possession of the home that at one time belonged to you? Based upon your previous logic, you are just out of luck. If you try to regain possession of your own home, you are a terrorist. You should just accept the fact that your home was taken by another. The Palestinians and, in particular, groups like Hamas would argue otherwise. They would argue that they have every right to do whatever is necessary to regain what they previously held as their historic homeland.
 

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I hate this crap...

A lot of people are blind to how Israel conducts themselves... which, to put it mildly, would be completely unpalatable to most Americans.

At the same time, the completely inaccurate pro-Hamas propaganda bullshit being spewed forth by some in this thread is ridiculous. SMH. It's "cool" to be anti-Israel these days like every other trendy counter-culture thing. But as nlroma1o said rather eloquently... "read a book". It's Israel against the world and if you put any other country in a similar situation the result for their neighbors would probably be MUCH worse.

I don't think people understand how much of an ally the US and Israel really are.
 

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I hate this crap...

A lot of people are blind to how Israel conducts themselves... which, to put it mildly, would be completely unpalatable to most Americans.

At the same time, the completely inaccurate pro-Hamas propaganda bullshit being spewed forth by some in this thread is ridiculous. SMH. It's "cool" to be anti-Israel these days like every other trendy counter-culture thing. But as nlroma1o said rather eloquently... "read a book". It's Israel against the world and if you put any other country in a similar situation the result for their neighbors would probably be MUCH worse.


If the day comes when the non-supporters out number the supporters and Israel is no longer be tied to our apron strings... Then their neighbors will see why the Jews have been so restrained. It's the US that keeps the Israeli's in check so that WWIII doesn't start in the region, ensuring the world has access to cheap gulf oil.

If you thought the 6 Day War was a short one... see how fast the next one ends when Israel busts out their big toys. Pound for pound, they have no equal.

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Borders that were established in 1948 by outside forces (including the USA) and expanded since with military aggression and the continued settlement of contested land. The insistence of the Israelis to build settlements (an indication that they plan to expand their borders) on land that historically belonged to someone else is a key point in the conflict.

If you want to talk about protecting land or protecting borders, you are backing the wrong side in this conflict. The land was taken from the Palestinians, who were too weak and disorganized at the time to resist. They are now fighting back to regain what was rightfully there's before it was taken following World War II.

Since you like to compare this situation with others. Here's a scenario for you. Someone takes your home and property by force. You are left homeless. Do you have the right to fight to regain possession of the home that at one time belonged to you? Based upon your previous logic, you are just out of luck. If you try to regain possession of your own home, you are a terrorist. You should just accept the fact that your home was taken by another. The Palestinians and, in particular, groups like Hamas would argue otherwise. They would argue that they have every right to do whatever is necessary to regain what they previously held as their historic homeland.

Dude..... where do you think the Jews came from.... The Jews have been there since biblical times..... Israel wasnt just invented in 1948....
 

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Borders that were established in 1948 by outside forces (including the USA) and expanded since with military aggression and the continued settlement of contested land. The insistence of the Israelis to build settlements (an indication that they plan to expand their borders) on land that historically belonged to someone else is a key point in the conflict.

If you want to talk about protecting land or protecting borders, you are backing the wrong side in this conflict. The land was taken from the Palestinians, who were too weak and disorganized at the time to resist. They are now fighting back to regain what was rightfully there's before it was taken following World War II.

Since you like to compare this situation with others. Here's a scenario for you. Someone takes your home and property by force. You are left homeless. Do you have the right to fight to regain possession of the home that at one time belonged to you? Based upon your previous logic, you are just out of luck. If you try to regain possession of your own home, you are a terrorist. You should just accept the fact that your home was taken by another. The Palestinians and, in particular, groups like Hamas would argue otherwise. They would argue that they have every right to do whatever is necessary to regain what they previously held as their historic homeland.

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Dude..... where do you think the Jews came from.... The Jews have been there since biblical times..... Israel wasnt just invented in 1948....

Wait, what?

The Jews were there in biblical times, but from classical antiquity all the way through World War II Palestine was controlled by some outside political power. Basically from the beginning of Islam, it was controlled by one Muslim overlord or another. Since time immemorial there have been "Arabs" (the meaning of the term has changed throughout history but I'll use it for lack of a better term) living in Palestine. Those are the people Eddy is referring to. Israel was kind of "just invented" after WWII. There wasn't a Jewish state before that, at least not for centuries.

Not taking anyone's side, just hoping the sides can understand each other a little better.
 

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I don't support either group as I don't know enough about the conflict to form an educated opinion. I did a quick Google search and found this pro-Palestine website that cites some interesting numbers that seem to contradict some of the posts made in this thread. I'm curious if anyone knows if they are accurate.

If Americans Knew - What every American needs to know about Israel/Palestine

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131 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,581 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.
 

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Wait, what?

The Jews were there in biblical times, but from classical antiquity all the way through World War II Palestine was controlled by some outside political power. Basically from the beginning of Islam, it was controlled by one Muslim overlord or another. Since time immemorial there have been "Arabs" (the meaning of the term has changed throughout history but I'll use it for lack of a better term) living in Palestine. Those are the people Eddy is referring to. Israel was kind of "just invented" after WWII. There wasn't a Jewish state before that, at least not for centuries.

Not taking anyone's side, just hoping the sides can understand each other a little better.

My point was that Israel has always been there, and the Jewish people have always lived there. Eddy was making it sound like Judaism was created somewhere in Eastern Europe, and then after WWII, they just decided that little spec of land over by Syria and Jordan is the perfect place for the UN to give to them.
 

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I don't support either group as I don't know enough about the conflict to form an educated opinion. I did a quick Google search and found this pro-Palestine website that cites some interesting numbers that seem to contradict some of the posts made in this thread. I'm curious if anyone knows if they are accurate.

If Americans Knew - What every American needs to know about Israel/Palestine

Particularly

131 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,581 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.

How many of the 131 were kidnapped and murdered? How many of the 1581 were accidental collateral damage from a military action? The numbers mean jack shit with out answering these questions.
 

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I don't need to look anything up... this is my field. Everybody involved is the same race except for maybe some Ethiopian Jews caught in the crossfire.

THIS IS A CULTURAL, ETHNIC... AND SPECIFICALLY A RELIGIOUS CONFLICT.

This thread has the sociological aptitude of a Bama board.


***EDIT*** No hard feelings Redbar... Anybody located in my all time favorite song is OK by me!

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Since you understand who the Ashkenazi are and where they are from, and you know that they comprise about 48% of the population of Israel, with the largest group being the Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews which make up 50.2% of the Israeli population. How is Aves' statement that most of the people who populated Israel were from Europe inaccurate? Sephardic Jews are also from Spain and Portugal coupled with the Ashkenazi I don't think it is inaccurate to say that most people in Israel now are more European in descent than they are Semitic.

***None taken, we are all more alike than we are different, for some reason that is easier to see once Brindza raises his hand on Saturday or Stone plugs in his amp.***
 
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