'14 IL LB Nile Sykes (Indiana Transfer)

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ND would have known his final semester grades far before now. Graduation was 6 weeks ago for goodness sake. This is all bullshit and super freaking shady. Shit like this will deter top talent from coming here.

Shit like this DOES DETER elite talent from coming here.
 

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ND would have known his final semester grades far before now. Graduation was 6 weeks ago for goodness sake. This is all bullshit and super freaking shady. Shit like this will deter top talent from coming here.

Maybe not top talent who has grades, but anyone in the top 250 who has average grades... they will think twice... why turn down other schools when you can be booted before Aug 1
 

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Or we accepted his letter of intent in February and then he slacked off the rest of the semester. He had 3 months of school left still that was out of admissions control.

Yup, and that slacking costs kids spots all the time. Everyone has heard horror stories of schools pulling acceptances due to "Senioritis."

It's not as bad as it looks on the surface... my problem is that it should never, ever get to this kind of point. A kid shouldn't be in school right now taking classes and then they go "hey how you liking things so far? Doing good in school work? Yeah, looks like you've adjusted great... about that though... your test score was just a bit too low for my subjective line in the sand so pack up your things. K THANKS."

If you want to not admit him that's OK. Handle it at the correct time. Do your damn job.
 

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Fire. Everyone.

I usually have no reservations getting out the pitchforks and whipping up all the people I know who donate far more $$ than me... but these people might be evaluating my kid's application some day so I'm gonna sit this one out.

Lol!

I'm sure people in the admissions department will be perusing ND message boards, looking for any potentially disparaging remarks about the university, marking the poster, doing an intense (and perhaps illegal) background check in the hopes of identifying the poster, creating a file on the alleged poster, then cross-checking any relations the poster may have potentially applying to the school at some future date.

Does the admissions department target former KGB operatives as counselors? :yes:
 

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I echo the sentiments expressed. I'm embarrassed this happened AGAIN. Head(s) need to roll.
 

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Yup, and that slacking costs kids spots all the time. Everyone has heard horror stories of schools pulling acceptances due to "Senioritis."

It's not as bad as it looks on the surface... my problem is that it should never, ever get to this kind of point. A kid shouldn't be in school right now taking classes and then they go "hey how you liking things so far? Doing good in school work? Yeah, looks like you've adjusted great... about that though... your test score was just a bit too low for my subjective line in the sand so pack up your things. K THANKS."

If you want to not admit him that's OK. Handle it at the correct time. Do your damn job.

I agree that the situation you have presented makes us look really bad. We need more information, and hopefully it's not as presented.
 

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Shouldn't be able to accept someone's NLI unless they are THROUGH admissions. You SHOULD NOT be able to come back in JUNE!!!! and say "oh yeah... sooooo... ummm..."

Where is the indication that this happened? I haven't seen ANYTHING that says this is the case except for wild speculation in message boards.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Freshman <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> LB Nile Sykes appears headed toward a transfer. Story ($): <a href="https://t.co/JBhOyKsGdp">https://t.co/JBhOyKsGdp</a></p>— Irish Illustrated (@NDatRivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDatRivals/statuses/484399995852836864">July 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Where is the indication that this happened? I haven't seen ANYTHING that says this is the case except for wild speculation in message boards.

Give me another plausible scenario considering the kid has not completed a single class and likely has not even had the opportunity to cheat or anything else like that.
 

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If he's good enough for you to accept a NLI and enforce a binding contract then suck it up ND. You knew what you were getting into. Be a Catholic university and enrich the education of your students. Ex post facto or rolling admissions review isn't going to cut it
 

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these situations are why our current head coach will be here at the most 5 more years
 

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if we wer going to lose one LB from chicago i would say this would be the one....no offense
 
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I honestly can't see any major head coach wanting or having to deal with this. Feel sorry for BK and Staff.
 

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Give me another plausible scenario considering the kid has not completed a single class and likely has not even had the opportunity to cheat or anything else like that.

I just find it amazingly hard to believe that ND un-admitted someone in June, unless he was never officially admitted to begin with.

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I just find it amazingly hard to believe that ND un-admitted someone in June, unless he was never officially admitted to begin with.

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I share in your disbelief which is why I'm particularly pissed (assuming this is was happened).
 

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When Kelly leaves we're done. Nobody in their right mind would want to coach ND after seeing dumb shit like this
 

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I just find it amazingly hard to believe that ND un-admitted someone in June, unless he was never officially admitted to begin with.

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Well this is why everyone is so angry at ND
 

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I just find it amazingly hard to believe that ND un-admitted someone in June, unless he was never officially admitted to begin with.

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You mean like how they un-admitted Tee Shephard in the middle of an actual semester?
 

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If he's good enough for you to accept a NLI and enforce a binding contract then suck it up ND. You knew what you were getting into. Be a Catholic university and enrich the education of your students. Ex post facto or rolling admissions review isn't going to cut it


I think this is what is really at issue here for me. These things can potentially ruin a young man's life. Live up to the high standards you place upon yourselves, and do what is right for this student. Do what is right for the university by not sullying its good name. Do what is right for the football team that represents this university (within reason and this is well within reason). Do what is right for the family that helped guide him in the decision making process. What I have seen so far, this has not been doing what is right by anything other than "Look at all the power we have in admissions to ruin somebody's future HAHAHA!"
 

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If I am Kelly, it makes me terrified to go after boarder grade kids cuz admissions is making it impossible
 
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and Koon's post deleted, classic.

Not sure why.

Anyway, no idea what it means, but Jay Hayes tweeted then deleted 'someone rip up this contract I signed'.

Maybe he bought a boat he didn't like, but I'm hoping it's nothing to do with ND.
 

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Days like today make me feel like we will never win another national championship in my lifetime. Hope I'm wrong.
 

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Holy shit I wonder if Stanford fans are as butthurt about their admissions people as you bunch. How many of you have actually sat in a classroom with a Notre Dame football player? You don't have to be a fucking genius to get in on a football scholarship.

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Holy shit I wonder if Stanford fans are as butthurt about their admissions people as you bunch. How many of you have actually sat in a classroom with a Notre Dame football player? You don't have to be a fucking genius to get in on a football scholarship.

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What fans?

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Holy shit I wonder if Stanford fans are as butthurt about their admissions people as you bunch. How many of you have actually sat in a classroom with a Notre Dame football player? You don't have to be a fucking genius to get in on a football scholarship.

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Wtf is your point dude? I've had classes with many ND football players. What does that have to do with ND un-admitting someone?
 
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