'15 CA QB Blake Barnett (Arizona State Transfer)

[tko]

I can't believe we're going down the whole academics things again and we're going to have to clean this up... I've been very guilty of these tangents in the past, so I understand how it spirals... but didn't we just do a big cleanup?

Cack's point was just that we, as fans, tend to have a much different appreciation of "academics are important to me" than these kids. Most of us coming through high school that weren't looking at full athletic rides with a lucrative pro-league were playing a game of balancing cost + prestige + academic opportunity + fit with where we applied, got accepted, and ultimately attended. Most "regular" kids are truly "academics first"... because academics is literally the reason why you're matriculating.

Cleaning all this up in a sec.

Herb, clean up in aisle 7!

 

[johnnycando]

Hell if I was a stud footbaw player I'd go to alabama, huh paw?

I'd just need to be promised that no disease would permeate my condom ever.

 

[Cackalacky]

Apologies. I just saw the fallout. Sorry Lax and everyone else.

 

[johnnycando]

I would like to add, that I do feel like we are the shunned boyfriend.

30 years without pussy is a long time.

Meanwhile Johnny come fucking lately is tearing it up with all the hot hoes.

We take them out to dinner, he takes them home.

And we're still not mad enough to buy nutrisystem.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I would like to add, that I do feel like we are the shunned boyfriend.

30 years without pussy is a long time.

Meanwhile Johnny come fucking lately is tearing it up with all the hot hoes.

We take them out to dinner, he takes them home.

And we're still not mad enough to buy nutrisystem.

I understand the frustration, but this doesn't just happen to ND. It happens to Bama every year too... and to USC and Michigan and Texas and everybody else. It's the nature of the beast when you're dealing with 17 and 18 year old kids who are getting pulled in every direction and having their egos stroked. Sometimes you'll flip a recruit from someone else, and sometimes yours will get flipped. The worst thing you can do is be petty and disparage the kid or the other school. Be bigger than that and just wish them well and move on to the next one.

 

[johnnycando]

I understand the frustration, but this doesn't just happen to ND. It happens to Bama every year too... and to USC and Michigan and Texas and everybody else. It's the nature of the beast when you're dealing with 17 and 18 year old kids who are getting pulled in every direction and having their egos stroked. Sometimes you'll flip a recruit from someone else, and sometimes yours will get flipped. The worst thing you can do is be petty and disparage the kid or the other school. Be bigger than that and just wish them well and move on to the next one.

I don't think there's anyone on here who isn't glad he's going to Bama over Oregon.

We'd just rather him to have donned blue and gold.

"Whore."

 

[Wingman Ray]

I can't believe we're going down the whole academics things again and we're going to have to clean this up... I've been very guilty of these tangents in the past, so I understand how it spirals... but didn't we just do a big cleanup?

Cack's point was just that we, as fans, tend to have a much different appreciation of "academics are important to me" than these kids. Most of us coming through high school that weren't looking at full athletic rides with a lucrative pro-league were playing a game of balancing cost + prestige + academic opportunity + fit with where we applied, got accepted, and ultimately attended. Most "regular" kids are truly "academics first"... because academics is literally the reason why you're matriculating.

Cleaning all this up in a sec.

Sorry to make a mess. I just see what Saban pulls year in year out. I think it was two years ago there was a OLman that had D1 scholarship offers was guaranteed a scholy if he took a "gray shirt" that year only to be denied it the next year when they recruited over him. It is just about character...or lack of. I admit Bama is a machine. They are rolling and will roll as long as Saban is coaching because...well he IS the best coach in cfb and Alabama is a talent rich state. But talking character of a man and the fact that he can look these kids in the eye, flash NC rings and say come here and you will be in the pros is just wrong. Dont deceive kids and dont play to their pipedreams. For every player Saban has put in the pros, there are 4 more that never graduate dumping trash for the city when he told them they were guaranteed pro. That isnt preparing them.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Sorry to make a mess. I just see what Saban pulls year in year out. I think it was two years ago there was a OLman that had D1 scholarship offers was guaranteed a scholy if he took a "gray shirt" that year only to be denied it the next year when they recruited over him. It is just about character...or lack of. I admit Bama is a machine. They are rolling and will roll as long as Saban is coaching because...well he IS the best coach in cfb and Alabama is a talent rich state. But talking character of a man and the fact that he can look these kids in the eye, flash NC rings and say come here and you will be in the pros is just wrong. Dont deceive kids and dont play to their pipedreams. For every player Saban has put in the pros, there are 4 more that never graduate dumping trash for the city when he told them they were guaranteed pro. That isnt preparing them.

Wingman... you seem like an alright guy. But your Saban rants are a little ridiculous. You don't have a clue as to what Saban tells recruits when he meets with them. Maybe you should actually read what every single recruit in recent memory says about their conversations with him. I don't prop up players at Bama on this forum who are stellar academic students. I can list name after name of those players and many of who you would be shocked to hear. Nor do I rant about Irish players that have been admitted to ND that have had less than stellar high school academic achievements.

I can understand being upset that you lost a recruit. Even we lost 4-5 commitments from last year. It happens. Big deal. But to run a coach, player, fan, or anyone else down is self serving and really has no purpose here.

Done talking about academics and Barnett. Much like I say about every recruit, no matter the school, I hope he has great success - both on the field and in the classroom.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Sorry to make a mess. I just see what Saban pulls year in year out. I think it was two years ago there was a OLman that had D1 scholarship offers was guaranteed a scholy if he took a "gray shirt" that year only to be denied it the next year when they recruited over him. It is just about character...or lack of. I admit Bama is a machine. They are rolling and will roll as long as Saban is coaching because...well he IS the best coach in cfb and Alabama is a talent rich state. But talking character of a man and the fact that he can look these kids in the eye, flash NC rings and say come here and you will be in the pros is just wrong. Dont deceive kids and dont play to their pipedreams. For every player Saban has put in the pros, there are 4 more that never graduate dumping trash for the city when he told them they were guaranteed pro. That isnt preparing them.

Ray, chill out. You're acting like a butthurt, jilted 16-year-old girl. First, get your facts straight instead of spouting made up bs that fits your delusions but isn't even on a first name basis with reality.

There are two possible players you're referring to in your Bama grayshirt story, but your facts are so off that I can't tell which you're actually talking about. One player was offered a scholly a few years ago and told months in advance that he'd probably have to grayshirt, leaving him plenty of opportunity to accept one of the offers from other schools. He held out hope of not having to grayshirt at Bama right up until signing day, but when there was only the grayshirt offer from Bama that day, he took the offer from Arkansas. Nobody lied to him and he wasn't misled in any way. He just hoped it would work out differently but it didn't.

The other grayshirt in the last couple of years was a guy you all howled was lied to and wouldn't get his scholly the next semester. He did and he's at Bama. Nobody lied to him. He was given the option of waiting a semester or signing somewhere else. He waited. He got what he was promised.

I can guarantee you that neither Saban nor any other coach with an ounce of brains has ever guaranteed any recruit they'll get to the NFL. No coach can guarantee that and any coach who tried would lose all credibility with recruits. In fact, Saban's current and former players consistently say one of the things that most impressed them was that Saban was very up front, honest and blunt with them about everything. Face it man, he doesn't need to bs recruits or lie to them and I think you'll find it very difficult to find any examples of former players claiming he promised them a guaranteed starting job, being an NFL draft pick, or anything else of that nature. He can truthfully tell them that Bama gets more of our players drafted than any other school's do, and that's all he needs to say to them.

You really think for every Bama player that goes to the NFL, there are 4 who don't graduate??? Are you that uninformed or just that angry. Dude, dial back the hyperbole, exaggerations, made up "facts" and outright lies. Get ahold of yourself and be bigger than that.

 

[md_bennett]

Are we due to lock this thread yet? Please??

 

[irishog77]

Are we due to lock this thread yet? Please??

No

 

[johnnycando]

Are we due to lock this thread yet? Please??

Just unsubscribe.

 

[KPENN]

Are we due to lock this thread yet? Please??

Just unsubscribe.

Or just don't click on it, its pretty simple actually.

 

[Pachuco]

Locking threads is like locking dreams... sometimes there are nightmares, and sometimes there are great visions. You wrestle them both, but you never stop dreaming.

This is the last thing I will offer in this thread, as a fan of Notre Dame football and college football:

I welcome the competition.

Every single organization is comprised of coaches, players, and fans who have to put in the work to be successful... for individual players, it's an advantage to have tough classes and its an advantage to have easy classes. The smarts come in all forms, but the work has to be put in one way or the other...

The competition is what makes these games so much fun.

This game is SUPPOSED to be FUN.

I don't care that Blake chose Alabama over Notre Dame.

He hasn't snapped the ball once in college football. He still has to rise above to make an impact.

The only thing his choice says is he found a better fit for himself.

And as a fan of cfb, who loves the pomp and circumstance, the drama of the matchups, his choice also allows for a great potential story...

So with all PC bullshit aside, I look forward to the opportunity of kicking both Bama's ass and Blake's ass on the field when we meet again. It's a two-in-one package, if the stars align properly...

And that's how it should be... payback actualized on the field, not slinging rocks.

See, isn't it beautiful?

God, I love this game.

 

[Bishop2b5]

It is beautiful. Pachuco, you get it. Hats off to you.

 

[PLACforever]

How about this for payback?
Colleges With The Most STDs | ViralSip. | Page 2

Roooooll Tide

 

[md_bennett]

How about this for payback?
Colleges With The Most STDs | ViralSip. | Page 2

Roooooll Tide

So basically if you go to school in the state of Alabama wrap it up. Bama and Auburn lol that's so sad

 

[johnnycando]

Hell if I was a stud footbaw player I'd go to alabama, huh paw?

I'd just need to be promised that no disease would permeate my condom ever.

How about this for payback?
Colleges With The Most STDs | ViralSip. | Page 2

Roooooll Tide

And now you understand.

 

[T Town Tommy]

So basically if you go to school in the state of Alabama wrap it up. Bama and Auburn lol that's so sad

Wrap that rascal.

 

[STLDomer]

The Opening parents open up on kids' recruitments

 

[Cackalacky]

I mean this in the best possible way but every school I have ever been to or visited or held a conversation with regarding Communications, is that it is a joke major. Am I wrong? My experience is that it is on the level of bottom barrel major at any public institution.

 

[Rack Em]

I mean this in the best possible way but every school I have ever been to or visited or held a conversation with regrading Communications, is that it is a joke major. Am I wrong? My experience is that it is on the level of bottom barrel major at any public institution.

Why do you think ND doesn't have a Communications degree? Seriously.

 

[wizards8507]

I mean this in the best possible way but every school I have ever been to or visited or held a conversation with regrading Communications, is that it is a joke major. Am I wrong? My experience is that it is on the level of bottom barrel major at any public institution.

Some schools have legitimate Communications majors, especially if they offer concentrated tracks in something like Social Work or Advertising. My sister majored in Communications - Advertising and it was basically a Marketing degree.

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[MNIrishman]

I mean this in the best possible way but every school I have ever been to or visited or held a conversation with regarding Communications, is that it is a joke major. Am I wrong? My experience is that it is on the level of bottom barrel major at any public institution.

Communications
Why You Chose It

Look, you get it. No college career is going to spit you out onto the fast track to being a millionaire. Majoring in Communications allows you to achieve the same degree as all your friends while doing, like, half the work.

Why You'll Regret It

Contrary to popular belief, there's one really difficult aspect of being a Communications major: Convincing everyone you're not functionally retarded after they find out you're a Communications major.

There isn't a more eye-rolling, smirk-inducing major than Communications. And hey, maybe those Communications professors really are good at, uh, communicating because the only people who don't seem to know that they've selected a joke major are the Communications majors themselves. I've met some very earnest ones, who speak emphatically about how their school has "the best Communications program in the country." It's sort of adorable. Like a kindergartner who doesn't realize all their classmate's finger paintings got first prize at the art show too.

Source:
The 6 Best College Majors (For Filling You With Regret) | Cracked.com

 

[Luckylucci]

Its funny that what this really boiled down to was getting to the NFL. Playing in a pro-style offense and somehow Kiffin convincing him that he was the guy that was going to help.

 

[Rack Em]

Some schools have legitimate Communications majors, especially if they offer concentrated tracks in something like Social Work or Advertising. My sister majored in Communications - Advertising and it was basically a Marketing degree.

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IMO that is the exception and not the norm. Communications degrees on the whole don't open the same doors as other degrees. Doesn't mean they still can't be valuable though.

 

[IrishLax]

Its funny that what this really boiled down to was getting to the NFL. Playing in a pro-style offense and somehow Kiffin convincing him that he was the guy that was going to help.

It was so hilarious to listen to him talk about being like Mariota and being a perfect fit for Oregon's offense... and then overnight saying "I don't like the dual-threat label. I'm not a dual-threat QB. I'm a pocket passer that can extend plays."

Impressionable is the nicest way to put it and a huge understatement.

 

[Cackalacky]

Its funny that what this really boiled down to was getting to the NFL. Playing in a pro-style offense and somehow Kiffin convincing him that he was the guy that was going to help.

Yeah. I mean outside of McCaron, I cant think of one productive NFL QB from Alabama. Also Sanchez, Leinart, Palmer, were more of a product of Petey than Kiffin and I cant really say I was ever in awe of Barkley or any other QB Kiffin was responsible for.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I mean this in the best possible way but every school I have ever been to or visited or held a conversation with regarding Communications, is that it is a joke major. Am I wrong? My experience is that it is on the level of bottom barrel major at any public institution.

Communications offers the same poor employment prospects as most liberal arts degrees (probably among the worst, in fact), without any of the benefits that liberal arts majors usually receive-- like learning how to think.

Some schools have legitimate Communications majors, especially if they offer concentrated tracks in something like Social Work or Advertising. My sister majored in Communications - Advertising and it was basically a Marketing degree.

Sounds like your sister got a marketing degree then. Questionable choice by her school to label it as Communications.

 

[Luckylucci]

It was so hilarious to listen to him talk about being like Mariota and being a perfect fit for Oregon's offense... and then overnight saying "I don't like the dual-threat label. I'm not a dual-threat QB. I'm a pocket passer that can extend plays."

Impressionable is the nicest way to put it and a huge understatement.

Exactly and calling his father a helicopter parent was an understatement as well.

"We tried to walk him through the process. The distance from home, the weather. But you know a 17-year old kid that’s impressed and he’s excited. I couldn’t disagree with that. Notre Dame is a great school. But I just think in the end it wasn’t the fit Blake was looking for."

This is the father that "cried" because he was so proud of his son for having the opportunity to go to ND, in front of BK. Looks like somebody wanted some more attention.