'15 CA QB Blake Barnett (Arizona State Transfer)

[GBdomer]

I just want this thread to die

Because it hurts my heart every time I have to look at the thread title. Just curious but what are you guys still talking about? I haven't thread the lately.

 

[koonja]

I just want this thread to die

Because it hurts my heart every time I have to look at the thread title. Just curious but what are you guys still talking about? I haven't thread the lately.

Shits.

 

[GBdomer]

Shits.

Like what kind of shit we talking about? There is a good site if you wanna look at some gnarly dumps

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Did anyone every relay this info from ISD? Some poster posted it on ISD board a few days ago. Not sure if someone already did.

I know a guy who has the opportunity to speak to a current staff member fairly regularly. Here goes:

The staff knew roughly a week or so before it happened that keeping Barnett was unlikely. They were doing their QB due diligence in prepping for his decommitment. Was told when Barnett decommitted they basically said "Goodbye and good luck. See ya."

Unrelated to Blake: Same staff member got a call from another recruit saying they were staying in their home state and eliminating ND to which he told them in a nice way "No sweat, we want kids who want to be here and have plenty of recruits on the board who fit that category. "

He implied they are done dealing with fence riders as it rarely works out for them in taking those kids who they talk into coming then end up leaving anyways. Mike has echoed this many times over the years how it rarely ends well for ND.

Ty Issac wanted to come to ND but USC blocked it. Didn't say what position had he came to ND as it was moot point.

DT Dew-Treadway is a guy they really like. Didn't say where he falls in priority with E. Taylor and Tiassum but they really like him as a 3T DT. They see him at 6'5 300 once they get him in with Longo. They want big space eaters at DT to keep the OL off the LBs in BVGs scheme.

That's about it for now. I kept this as generic as possible for obvious reasons.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Literally just read that on there. Thanks for posting it here.

 

[GBdomer]

I just read that and was gonna copy and paste it.

Sounds like staff just didn't want Ty Isaac

 

[rtrn2glory]

Did anyone every relay this info from ISD? Some poster posted it on ISD board a few days ago. Not sure if someone already did.

edit: nevermind just re-read the post and i'm a dumb ass

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

I just read that and was gonna copy and paste it.

Sounds like staff just didn't want Ty Isaac

Yeah there was some disagreement b/w that OP and another poster about whether or not Kelly tried hard enough re: Isaac. But still some good info.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

hope he's not referring to Bilal as the guy from Indy that wants to go elsewhere.

He said it was a southern kid.

 

[zelezo vlk]

edit: nevermind just re-read the post and i'm a dumb ass

Nah. Apparently was a player saying he'd stay in state. .

 

[Luckylucci]

Thanks for posting, some good stuff.

 

[rtrn2glory]

good to know thanks guys.

 

[ResLife Hero]

He implied they are done dealing with fence riders as it rarely works out for them in taking those kids who they talk into coming then end up leaving anyways. Mike has echoed this many times over the years how it rarely ends well for ND.

I like that our staff is taking this approach, but I hope we aren't limiting ourselves by avoiding heated recruiting battles. I haven't gotten that impression from the staff at all to this point.

 

[md_bennett]

I like that our staff is taking this approach, but I hope we aren't limiting ourselves by avoiding heated recruiting battles. I haven't gotten that impression from the staff at all to this point.

I don't think you can compare the two. Battles are reserved for those that really do have legit interest in your program. Fence riders are those guys that string you along, never fully making a decision, cancel 5 visits, allow their friends to influence their decisions, want all the love from each fanbase, and just don't know what they want for themselves.

 

[ResLife Hero]

I don't think you can compare the two. Battles are reserved for those that really do have legit interest in your program. Fence riders are those guys that string you along, never fully making a decision, cancel 5 visits, allow their friends to influence their decisions, want all the love from each fanbase, and just don't know what they want for themselves.

Now that I can fully support. My concern was that "fence rider" would apply to any kid whose struggling with the decision and shuffling favorites.

 

[OCIrish]

I just read that and was gonna copy and paste it.

Sounds like staff just didn't want Ty Isaac

Don't know how you got that, the post said Tyler Isaac wanted to come to ND, however, Southern California blocked him from doing so......

 

[md_bennett]

Now that I can fully support. My concern was that "fence rider" would apply to any kid whose struggling with the decision and shuffling favorites.

I get what you're saying there. I think the only reason to keep those guys in play would be if there are 2 or 3 consistent teams while the others shuffle about and we are one of those always mentioned.

 

[bigedefense]

I requested to cancel my subscription as well. The level of professionalism and 'journalism' is atrocious. I am not giving them another dime.

I'm late getting to this party, I've been out of pocket for a month or so. After going back to page 40 & catching up, I cancelled my subscription as well.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Don't know how you got that, the post said Tyler Isaac wanted to come to ND, however, Southern California blocked him from doing so......

Yeah but there was some disagreement in that thread about if BK would have called USC, if they would have lifted his restriction. Seems the consensus was yes, if BK would have tried harder, they might have.

 

[md_bennett]

Yeah but there was some disagreement in that thread about if BK would have called USC, if they would have lifted his restriction. Seems the consensus was yes, if BK would have tried harder, they might have.

That sounds more like wishful thinking mixed with BK haters. USC isn't going to do us any favors - EVER

 

[bigedefense]

Awesome. Hope he winds up at Ole Miss.

HELL NO!

 

[Emcee77]

Yeah but there was some disagreement in that thread about if BK would have called USC, if they would have lifted his restriction. Seems the consensus was yes, if BK would have tried harder, they might have.

That sounds more like wishful thinking mixed with BK haters. USC isn't going to do us any favors - EVER

Right, it seems very unlikely to me that SC would block Ty, then change its mind just because BK called and said pretty please with sugar on top. Why would they do that? Plus, BK likely didn't even want to open that door; wouldn't he want to respect other schools' denials of permission to contact so that they will respect his? And if he wanted to use up some capital to ask for an exception, not sure Ty Isaac would be the right player, considering that he doesn't exactly play a position of need.

But I haven't read the thread in question. Am I missing something?

 

[GBdomer]

Don't know how you got that, the post said Tyler Isaac wanted to come to ND, however, Southern California blocked him from doing so......

I don't think ND put any effort in for it. Didn't Isaac mom also state USC didn't block him from any schools?

 

[Ironman8]

I don't think ND put any effort in for it. Didn't Isaac mom also state USC didn't block him from any schools?

Nope. She said she thought USC might have missed the deadline in attempting to block him from ND, but that's it. So no, not at all - they clearly didn't want him at ND.

 

[GBdomer]

That's what I thought glad we agree Ironman.

This also makes me wonder if when Isaac almost visited before signing day that ND staff didn't want him too. Because they didn't want to scare off Tarean Folston or Greg Bryant. Or Ty Isaac really wanted to visit but ND staff told them no

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

That's what I thought glad we agree Ironman.

This also makes me wonder if when Isaac almost visited before signing day that ND staff didn't want him too. Because they didn't want to scare off Tarean Folston or Greg Bryant. Or Ty Isaac really wanted to visit but ND staff told them no

That makes sense. I also think the staff probably feels good about where they stand with our 2015 RB prospects. And if we took Isaac and he sat a year, the depth chart looks a little worse for the 2015 guys.

 

[IrishLax]

There is some serious cross talk on whether ND was blocked or not. People in Ty's camp (per a poster on ISD who Christian vouched for) all ND had to do was request permission but ND didn't. So either we weren't interested or dropped the ball... or the family is mistaken.

 

[gkIrish]

There is some serious cross talk on whether ND was blocked or not. People in Ty's camp (per a poster on ISD who Christian vouched for) all ND had to do was request permission but ND didn't. So either we weren't interested or dropped the ball... or the family is mistaken.

Wrong thread

 

[Redbar]

That's what I thought glad we agree Ironman.

This also makes me wonder if when Isaac almost visited before signing day that ND staff didn't want him too. Because they didn't want to scare off Tarean Folston or Greg Bryant. Or Ty Isaac really wanted to visit but ND staff told them no

Obviously we don't really know how the relationship with Barnett ultimately ended and we also don't know how the final days of Ty Isaac's initial recruitment ended, but maybe the staff feels the roster has been built to a point where they are not going to go too far out of their way to entertain someone not upholding their commitment, or someone getting a second bite of the apple, one year later, unless there is a glaring need on the team. Maybe they fought their hearts out to secure his commitment a year ago. Maybe they feel in a case like this, that ship has sailed, we will go with the people who want/wanted to be here and understand what we are about. I understand that some things have changed in Ty's personal life but that shouldn't necessarily create a necessity on our part. Similarly to when there were rumors that A Lynch wanted to come back and the staff decided it was best to move on. And I say this harboring no resentment to any of these guys and not trying to imply that the staff does either, but timing is an important thing for all of us to learn, and decisions have consequences, sometimes you can't turn back the clock.

 

[IrishBlood81]

Let's not pretend even marginal talents don't have a huge advantage in the job market based on their name recognition in the South. Hell, I'd rather tell people my insurance agent is Connor Shaw than "Joe Snuffy."

Poor Joe Snuffy... He always gets the shaft. Why does everyone always pick on Joe? What did he do that was so terrible? Man, Steelhead, you totally just ruined his career. Who's gonna hire Mr Snuffy now??