Recruiting stories

GBdomer

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What are some old ND recruiting stories or rumors that were going around? Whether it's decommits, commitment stories, or just flat out rumors that were going around. Kids we almost landed. ect ect, I have only been following recruiting for a couple years but I love hearing old stories on prospects whether they ended up at ND or almost did.

For example I love hearing about the Ishaq Williams story or I would love hear about the Lorenzo Booker story. Let's tell some stories guys!
 

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Isn't this why we archive our threads? Lol Quick someone copy all the recruiting thteads into this one.
 

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is there a thread like this one?

Doesn't have to be ND guys it would be a player who signed with anyone.
 

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is there a thread like this one?

Doesn't have to be ND guys it would be a player who signed with anyone.

I am just being a smartass. But the old threads from every year are available i think for any recruit who was on the radar. Lots of reading but all the stories are in there.
 

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I heard Matt Elam once ate his weight at Godfather's Pizza and bankrupted UL's recruiting budget.
 

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And another time Michael Jackson went to Lou Holt's house to use the bathroom.
 

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Ok, never mind mods feel free to delete the thread. Thought it would make for good stories and interesting comments but I guess not
 

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Ok, never mind mods feel free to delete the thread. Thought it would make for good stories and interesting comments but I guess not
Actually some of these are pretty good... Aaron Lynch saga beats most.
 

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Just didn't feel like shifting through old recruiting profiles and reading them page by page.

What happen with Lorenzo Booker? Didn't he like cry and say he had to go to FSU

South Florida recruiting stories are always my favorite
 

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He got kicked out within a week of being here I think.

I knew he left shortly after his arrival, but was he kicked out? Wasn't his brother a QB on the team whose prospective playing time appeared to be non-existent?
 

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This thread has serious potential, but you have to want it. It's not gonna just happen.

He started the thread, that is enough. Just the first two people to respond where kind of being dicks...

Brian Poole flipping to ND on NSD was a great rumor until NSD came and gone. :(
 

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Does anyone know the story behind Jacques Mcclendon's visit? He's from the city I live in and ended up signing with Tennessee. I remember seeing something on the internet about him being told to go home while on his official visit but never heard the whole story. Thanks.
 

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What happend with Joesph Fauria? I honestly had no idea he was at ND
 

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My recruiting story?

I wasn't.

But found my way to ND in spite of it.



"Back when I was a kid" I had no idea what recruiting high school kids for college football was like. I don't think my itty-bitty Catholic HS had any players recruited for any major program. Maybe there were.

There was no ESPN (etc.). USA Today or internet then, though.
 

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The WR on the opposite side of me in HS went full ride to Purdue... I was never there at any of his sit downs but he did say Purdue basically told him he'd almost certainly never play, but they have spots that need filling, and he'd be able to tell people he played D-1... so at least they were honest... lol

that's exactly what happened too... saw him on the sidelines on some televised game though...
 

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I played on the same high school football team as former Notre dame center John Sullivan. That is all
 

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Wasn't there a bad Al Pacino/Colin Ferrel movie about this?


Anyone?


Anyone?


Hello?


I hear crickets...
 

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Crickets? It ain't August yet – maybe July in yer nek o' da woulds.
 

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Just recently started following recruiting, anyone care to explain Gio Bernard and Anthony Barr and the ND relation?
 

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Just recently started following recruiting, anyone care to explain Gio Bernard and Anthony Barr and the ND relation?

Gio wanted to play for Weis in a pro style system.
Barr liked ND but just didn't wanna go to ND. Blazed his own trail. Kelly recruited him at LB first then switched to WR when he wasn't buying it.
 

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The amount of players who could've/should've played at ND and later became standouts in college and/or the NFL is staggering to me. It seriously drives me nuts. I know you win some and you lose some. But for awhile there, it really seemed like ND lost more than their fair share. Randy Moss, Greg Olsen, Gio Bennard, Anthony Barr are just a few that have already been listed...I'm sure the guys who have been following ND recruiting for a long time know of a bunch more.
 

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The amount of players who could've/should've played at ND and later became standouts in college and/or the NFL is staggering to me. It seriously drives me nuts. I know you win some and you lose some. But for awhile there, it really seemed like ND lost more than their fair share. Randy Moss, Greg Olsen, Gio Bennard, Anthony Barr are just a few that have already been listed...I'm sure the guys who have been following ND recruiting for a long time know of a bunch more.


But they also got Clausen, Floyd, Young, Wenger, Olson, Crist, McDonald, both Grays, Tuitt, Nix, Lynch, Ishaq. You arent going to get all the top end talent. Weis loaded his class with 4-5 stars, but never got depth in the 3star kids. I mean you can make an argument that ND had no business getting any of those kids I listed minus Floyd. You are going to pull some from families/areas ND has no track record of success in and lose some with families/areas that ND has a good track record.
 
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Vinny Cerrato has a bunch of great stories surrounding him. His recruiting for Holtz was amazing. One Foot Down did a piece on him. If you can, check him out.

Vinny Cerrato was an enigma during the early years of Lou Holtz' tenure at Notre Dame, a man so crucial to the success of the football team but also so misunderstood and distrusted by many within the campus power structure.

Back in those days, programs didn't need to have their recruiting coordinators be a coach, and Cerrato flourished in this full-time role like so few people in college athletics. He came with Holtz to Notre Dame from Minnesota after being named the recruiting coordinator for the Gophers at the tender age of 23 in 1985, and proceeded to turn heads within a couple years.

If people doubted his ability to bring talent to South Bend, they would be sorely mistaken.

Cerrato's five full classes from 1987-1991 were packed full of some of Notre Dame's most illustrious modern talents, including:

Ricky Watters, Tony Brooks, Kent Graham, Chris Zorich, Todd Lyght, Rocket Ismail, Derek Brown, Rodney Culver, Rod Smith, Kevin McDougal, Rick Mirer, Demetrius Dubose, Jerome Bettis, Michael Stonebreaker, Mirko Jurkovic, Reggie Brooks, Ray Zellers, Lake Dawson, Lee Becton, Bryant Young, Aaron Taylor, Jeff Burris, Tom Carter, and Craig Hentrich.

Those five classes would go 72-13-1 during their careers at Notre Dame, and 64-9-1 from 1988 to 1993, winning a national title and 5 major bowl games along the way.

Cerrato was young, good looking, confident, and a master salesman. By 1990, he seemed to have the whole world in his hand.

Holtz liked to joke that Cerrato was the only person in South Bend with a year-round tan, because Cerrato was rarely on campus due to his long hours recruiting across the country.

What's more, his recruiting methods were cutting edge and incredibly crafty. In fact, the NCAA had to institute new recruiting regulations (dubbed the Vinny Cerrato Rule by Holtz) specifically because of his his actions while at Notre Dame:

"What Cerrato did at the Orange Bowl game was the stuff of sales genius. It had nothing to do with football strategy; other coaches called the plays against Colorado.

Cerrato, 30, stood on the sidelines with a cellular phone and a list of 35 high school seniors. Actually, he had two phones - a spare, and a pocketful of extra batteries. The 35 high school seniors on his list were football players in whom Notre Dame was interested, and who had either visited the campus or had been visited by Cerrato.

When the game started - remember, this was potentially for the national championship, and was telecast in prime time - Cerrato started calling the high school athletes.

"They were all watching the game," Cerrato said. "I knew they would be. So I called their houses all over the country, and I said: 'This is Vinny Cerrato from Notre Dame. I'm on the sidelines at the Orange Bowl. You watching?' And then I'd tell them what the next play was going to be."

That's correct - Notre Dame Coach Lou Holtz sends in each offensive play, and Cerrato made a point of finding out what the play was going to be. He knew how effective this would be over the phone.

"The high school kids could hear all the crowd noise, and they could hear our players hollering," Cerrato said. "I'd say: 'I'm on the 35-yard line. I've got the play for you. We're going to run a 34.' A 34 is a handoff to the fullback over the right side. I'd say to the high school kids, 'Watch the fullback.' And while I was on the phone, the fullback would run that play."

Cerrato first tried this cellular phone technique a year ago, at the Fiesta Bowl. "But it didn't work," he said. "I didn't have my own phone, so I borrowed one from the hotel, and it broke after only three calls. This year my phones worked perfectly. I was making calls from a few moments before the opening kickoff until the final gun."

Occasionally Cerrato would put one of the Notre Dame players on the phone. "They just said hello real quickly, but you can imagine how it made the high school guys feel," Cerrato said.

Perhaps Cerrato's finest moment came when he was talking on the phone to an extremely talented high school prospect, and Notre Dame speedster Rocket Ismail saw what he was doing.

According to Cerrato, "Rocket asked me who I was talking to, and when I told Rocket he said, 'Tell him if I give the thumbs-up sign when I'm in my stance, that means I'm going deep.' That's got to be pretty impressive to a high school football player - a message like that from Rocket Ismail in the middle of the Orange Bowl game."

Because Cerrato felt that the phone calls would be most effective if they came totally by surprise, some of the high school players weren't home when he called. "They were over at their buddies' houses watching the game," Cerrato said. "So I got their buddies' numbers from the parents of the players, and I called their buddies' houses. In a way that was even better - their friends could get on the phone and listen, too."

One high school player talked to Cerrato and said, "I can't see you. Stand behind Coach Holtz." So Cerrato did just that - he and his cellular phone moved behind Holtz."

As you can imagine, Cerrato didn't exactly carry around the best reputation on campus---he didn't "fit in" so to speak. People were suspicious of his methods. People were upset that he was never on campus or that he didn't serve any real role on the staff as a coach.

As a result, his time at Notre Dame was short. Since coming with Holtz to South Bend in 1986, Cerrato watched the 1991 class sign their letters of intent and then left to become the Director of College Scouting, and later Director of Player Personnel, for the San Francisco 49ers.

Though his time was short, Cerrato left an indelible mark on Irish football history. More than any other individual, he's credited with being one of the most important reasons why Notre Dame flourished on the field in the late 1980's and early 1990's.

Although Notre Dame would continue to recruit well after his departure, including up until today, no one has brought in the star power that Cerrato did. He wasn't around for the success of the 1991-93 seasons, but his absence on the recruiting trail would be felt once his players graduated.

Here is another link about Cerrato.
ESPN.com - RECRUITING - Cerrato has the winning edge
 
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