'10 GA WR Tai-ler Jones (Notre Dame Signee)

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Scoring top 5 on the Wonderlic at the combine.. Sounds pretty good to me. I'll take it. Lol</p>— TJ Jones (@Tj2Smoove) <a href="https://twitter.com/Tj2Smoove/statuses/445941726193004544">March 18, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Nice work TJ!

He's a damn smart kid that runs precise routes. He's a hard worker and comes from an NFL bloodline. I could easily see him having a fine NFL career.

I would die if my Bears picked him up. He would compliment our receiving corps perfectly.
 

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I wonder if thats for this years draft class or overall.....I would imagine its for this class.

Wooly, Im with you, I would be stoked if the Bears snagged him!
 

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4th round you think, Wooly? I'd be okay with Phil pulling the trigger there.
 

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Emery isn't smart enough to take a good player in the draft unfortunately.
 
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He'd be great for the Bears, but staying in the same division, he's also kill it for the Packers, IMO. I think they could use one more WR.
 

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He'd be great for the Bears, but staying in the same division, he's also kill it for the Packers, IMO. I think they could use one more WR.

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I'd love to have him in Chicago but I don't see it as a good landing spot for him. Cutler is throwing the ball to Marshall, Jeffery or Forte. He rarely makes it far enough through his progressions to get the third receiver the ball.
 

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I'd love to have him in Chicago but I don't see it as a good landing spot for him. Cutler is throwing the ball to Marshall, Jeffery or Forte. He rarely makes it far enough through his progressions to get the third receiver the ball.

But with the proper third receiver, game planning could dictate making a guy like TJ Jones the first read of a progression while defenses are worrying about Marshall/Jeffery damage control.
 

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I'd love to have him in Chicago but I don't see it as a good landing spot for him. Cutler is throwing the ball to Marshall, Jeffery or Forte. He rarely makes it far enough through his progressions to get the third receiver the ball.

That's simply not true. For a much crap I talk about Trestman, the dude's offense moves the ball around.

Bears had 11 receivers with receptions last year. Even with Cutler throwing for over 1,200 yards to two receivers (Marshall/1,295 & Jeffery/1,421) M Bennett had 65 receptions for 759 yards and Earl Bennett had 32 receptions for 243 yards.

What has been dreadfully missing is a competent Z receiver. It's typically an important role in Trestman's offense. The problem is that Bennett plays out of position there and our backup was Hester, who was dreadful.
 

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That's simply not true. For a much crap I talk about Trestman, the dude's offense moves the ball around.

Bears had 11 receivers with receptions last year. Even with Cutler throwing for over 1,200 yards to two receivers (Marshall/1,295 & Jeffery/1,421) M Bennett had 65 receptions for 759 yards and Earl Bennett had 32 receptions for 243 yards.

What has been dreadfully missing is a competent Z receiver. It's typically an important role in Trestman's offense. The problem is that Bennett plays out of position there and our backup was Hester, who was dreadful.

I don't think Trestman is the problem. He tries to spread it around and get everyone involved. It's easy for him to get Forte and Bennett touches by design - Forte is used in screens and check downs and Bennett is used as a primary target to keep safeties honest once they start cheating to give the corners help with the wide outs. It's a lot harder to get the ball in the slot receivers hands if your quarterback routinely stares down primary receivers and throws into coverage. Lucky for them, Jeffery and Marshall are good enough to make a play on the ball and it works.

Bennett average 2 receptions and 16 yards per game. After Bennett, the bottom six receivers had a total of 13 receptions and none had more than 4.
 

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I don't think Trestman is the problem. He tries to spread it around and get everyone involved. It's easy for him to get Forte and Bennett touches by design - Forte is used in screens and check downs and Bennett is used as a primary target to keep safeties honest once they start cheating to give the corners help with the wide outs. It's a lot harder to get the ball in the slot receivers hands if your quarterback routinely stares down primary receivers and throws into coverage. Lucky for them, Jeffery and Marshall are good enough to make a play on the ball and it works.

Bennett average 2 receptions and 16 yards per game. After Bennett, the bottom six receivers had a total of 13 receptions and none had more than 4.

TE's are receivers in Trestman's offense. So this offense spread the ball between three receivers pretty dang well, almost evenly in fact.

In one moment you say that Cutler stares down receivers and doesn't check down, then the next you acknowledge that Cutler routinely checks down to the TE and RB when his two 1,200+ yard recievers aren't open. Which one is it? Sounds like you just don't like Cutler and are going to find a way to bitch about him one way or the other.

I think it's pretty obvious that a true slot receiver (which we don't have on the roster) would be a welcomed addition.
 

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TE's are receivers in Trestman's offense. So this offense spread the ball between three receivers pretty dang well, almost evenly in fact.

In one moment you say that Cutler stares down receivers and doesn't check down, then the next you acknowledge that Cutler routinely checks down to the TE and RB when his two 1,200+ yard recievers aren't open. Which one is it? Sounds like you just don't like Cutler and are going to find a way to bitch about him one way or the other.

I think it's pretty obvious that a true slot receiver (which we don't have on the roster) would be a welcomed addition.

The stats don't suggest they spread it around as well as some other teams. The Bears had five guys with double digit receptions, the least in their division (pack had 11, Vikings had 9 and Lions had 8).

I said Bennett (Martellus) is used, by design, as a primary target when the defense is doubling the wide outs and/or safeties are bailing to the sideline to give deep help.

I said he checks down to Forte. When he does, it's b/c a blitz forces a quick throw, not b/c Jay has gone through his progressions, determined nobody is open and then dumps it to him for a couple yards. There's a difference.

I like Cutler. In one of these threads, maybe the free agency thread, I argued they should re-sign or franchise him so he gets another shot with Trestman. The guy has had five coordinators in as many years. He has an elite arm and I think Trestman has the ability to make him a great QB. Like him or not, Jay is throwing the ball to his primary targets, whether they are covered or not.
 
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He is a hard working young man that has sure hands. As a skins fan I would hate to see this but he is a typical NY Giants type player. Eli normally makes these types of players very good. But he would fit in a a lot of places like NE, Baltimore, Carolina. He could be a good get.
 

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TJ's little brother Jahmai committed to UNC for hoops. Talented family! TJ's other brother plays WR for Appalachian State
 

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TJ's little brother Jahmai committed to UNC for hoops. Talented family! TJ's other brother plays WR for Appalachian State


I think he's actually a baseball commitment. Supposed to be a potential high draft pick in the MLB draft.
 

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My bad no idea why i wrote hoops, Jahmai was rated as the #1 high school short stop
 

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Back home, Notre Dame Fighting Irish TJ Jones set to complete journey - ESPN

Modest would be one way to describe the way TJ Jones handled himself during his decorated four-year career at Notre Dame. Ask Jones to sell himself to his future NFL bosses, however, and the former Irish receiver wastes few breaths.

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TJ Jones, a 2013 team MVP, is expected to be a mid-round pick in the NFL draft.
"You should pick me because, in my opinion, I'm the model of consistency," Jones told ESPN.com. "I came in as a freshman at Notre Dame, I started all four years, I've gotten better each and every year, with graduating in three-and-a-half years as a senior captain in the record books at Notre Dame, and I'm nowhere near my best. This is me getting better after four years.

"Imagine four years from now. I'm only 21 right now. I'm young for my [grade], so I have plenty of time to mature and to get better than where I'm at now."

He did forget to mention his team MVP honors from 2013. Forgive him; his degree wasn't in marketing.

While many of his former teammates stayed in South Bend, Ind., after Notre Dame's pro day, Jones is spending the home stretch of the pre-draft process back home in Atlanta. His preparation includes strength and footwork training at DSA Training in Marietta, Ga., and it also includes being back under the same roof as his mother and three of his five siblings, a welcome reprieve that he says helps make up for lost time after four years in college. The last of those years away included 70 catches, 1,108 yards, nine touchdowns and plenty of heads turned during the future pro's biggest job rehearsal.

In the months since, Jones has relied heavily on his godfather, former Notre Dame great Raghib Ismail, whose biggest words of advice have been to invest in his body, something Jones -- who checked in at six feet, 188 pounds at the NFL scouting combine -- has taken to heart during these past four months of training.

"I think that the biggest area I needed to improve was my physical strength, my weight, being able to carry 195-200 strong without losing any speed and being able to physically handle myself at the NFL level," Jones said. "And I think in the three or four months I've been able to -- not at the ideal weight I want right now -- but with the weight I've gained, I've been able to also maximize the strength and the speed of the game as well and not losing any quickness or speed with [the addition of] a couple pounds as well."

Jones' family has given him needed space during his time back home, careful not to overload him with questions similar to the ones he's been getting from everywhere else since completing his college career. Group text messaging has kept him in touch with his fellow Irish teammates going through the same process as him, as it has with the receivers behind at Notre Dame looking to fill his void. (That includes the academically-exiled DaVaris Daniels, whom Jones expects to return to the team and "make the impact that most people should be expecting.")

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Jones' well-chronicled marine biology interests have been put on hold, though he says he can't help but watch the Discovery Channel during his free time.

Still, the lead-up to next week's NFL draft has carried a bittersweet taste for Jones, who lost his father Andre to a brain aneurysm in the summer of 2011 at the age of 42. Pursuing the professional dream was something often discussed between Jones and his father, who was a starting end on the Irish's 1988 national title team.

On the doorstep of completing that journey, Jones knows his father is looking down on him with a smile.

"I would hope to think he's real proud," said Jones, a projected mid-round pick. "Definitely having my degree already in my kitchen right now and being able to go through this process and -- I don't want to say expect to be drafted, but having the opportunity to be drafted, hearing there's talk about me being drafted, it was enough in itself for him to really be proud because that's something we've talked about since I was a kid, since I really could remember."
 

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"You should pick me because, in my opinion, I'm the model of consistency," Jones told ESPN.com. "I came in as a freshman at Notre Dame, I started all four years, I've gotten better each and every year, with graduating in three-and-a-half years as a senior captain in the record books at Notre Dame, and I'm nowhere near my best. This is me getting better after four years.

"Imagine four years from now. I'm only 21 right now. I'm young for my [grade], so I have plenty of time to mature and to get better than where I'm at now."

TJ probably just kills it in the interviews.
 

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Gosh I really wish nothing but the best for the kid.

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KC has had a terrible draft so far as we desperately need WRs and playmakers in the passing game. I am really hoping the Chiefs pick up TJ in round 4 or 5 today. Where do you guys see him landing?
 

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KC has had a terrible draft so far as we desperately need WRs and playmakers in the passing game. I am really hoping the Chiefs pick up TJ in round 4 or 5 today. Where do you guys see him landing?

Team wise.. Hard to say. But I believe he'll be taken anywhere from 125 to 160.
 
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