'13 FL RB Greg Bryant (R.I.P.)

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GBdomer said:
I'm not saying we need a bunch of those kids but every team needs them. Look at all the teams who are in the top 10 they all have some players with edges to them. I'm not saying let's have a team with a bunch of punks but we do need some bad asses on this team. Kelly has brought in some of these kids and have turned some of them around and some have failed.
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I do I appreciate your point... you have to recruit guys with a fire in their belly. You have to recruit guys who desperately want to win and want to compete and have confidence, but it's tricky because you need to avoid guys who are ONLY focused on football because they have a very high probability of washing out.

This is all irrelevant to Bryant, I just thought it was odd you'd point at Lynch and Niklas as archetypes you wish we had more of. I'd point more to your KLM and Golden Tate types than those two.
 
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Ironman8 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a> RB Greg Bryant: "Notre Dame humbled me. I came in thinking I was gonna be in the mix right away. Didn't happen that way."</p>— Rachel Terlep (@eTruth_Irish) <a href="https://twitter.com/eTruth_Irish/statuses/449644604690669568">March 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Unleash the hounds young buck!!! your time starts NOW!!
 
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NDBoiler said:
Ron Powlus had a ton, like 2 Hiesmans worth before he even set foot on campus.
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Ron Powlus was both the Parade Offensive Player of the Year and the USA Offensive Player of the Year. He was the #1 Recruit his senior year. He set HS records in PA where QBs like Montana, Unitas, Blanda, Marino, Namath, and half dozen other legendary HS QBs had played before him.

He was the real deal until to came to ND and broke a collarbone in practice the week before his freshman opener. He was never the same after that. Despite two broken bones he still set more than 20 records at ND while playing for a coach that was clueless about a pro set. Lou had made that clear with the jets. Powlus had 3 OC's and 3 different QB coaches at ND. None were really pro set people. He also had an OLine coach that refused to cooperate with Holtz's installation of the Blarney Offense.

Powlus is the opposite example of the point you're trying to make. Powlus didn't run his mouth.


Last year was a frustrating year for Bryant in several ways. He's not the first to encounter that and he won't be the last.

I look forward to his accomplishments in a Division 1 game.
 
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GBdomer said:
Exactly it's people making comments without hearing the interview or actually knowing the kid personally making assumptions behind a keyboard. It's good stuff
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Good Napoleon Dynamite.

It's true though. All I read were tweets.

I'm tickled to have him though.

I purely read it.

In fact, all my ND related info comes from words here.

My bad. Nope I'd didn't watch the interviews.

Perfectly honest, it's probably all my assumption considering his cry baby approach last season.

Maybe he can make me a fan.
 
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He wants to be on the field. He wants to make an impact. He supported his teammates. He weathered a rough injury-shortened year. He hit the books to remain eligible. He's busting his ass in practice.

I don't see anything negative in any of that. Those qualities are all positive from my perspective. He's got the fire in his belly and has frankly turned me into a big fan of his. I can't wait to see him get his chance to produce on the field.
 
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Bluto said:
Way to keep it classy...
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BGIF said:
Ron Powlus was both the Parade Offensive Player of the Year and the USA Offensive Player of the Year. He was the #1 Recruit his senior year. He set HS records in PA where QBs like Montana, Unitas, Blanda, Marino, Namath, and half dozen other legendary HS QBs had played before him.

He was the real deal until to came to ND and broke a collarbone in practice the week before his freshman opener. He was never the same after that. Despite two broken bones he still set more than 20 records at ND while playing for a coach that was clueless about a pro set. Lou had made that clear with the jets. Powlus had 3 OC's and 3 different QB coaches at ND. None were really pro set people. He also had an OLine coach that refused to cooperate with Holtz's installation of the Blarney Offense.

Powlus is the opposite example of the point you're trying to make. Powlus didn't run his mouth.


Last year was a frustrating year for Bryant in several ways. He's not the first to encounter that and he won't be the last.

I look forward to his accomplishments in a Division 1 game.
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I think you misunderstood what my point was. It wasn't anything to do with someone running their mouth. It was naming a player who had a ton of hype before he even played a snap, so not the opposite, but rather exactly what my point was LOL :)
 
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NDBoiler said:
I think you misunderstood what my point was. It wasn't anything to do with someone running their mouth. It was naming a player who had a ton of hype before he even played a snap, so not the opposite, but rather exactly what my point was LOL :)
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OK.
 
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BGIF said:
Ron Powlus was both the Parade Offensive Player of the Year and the USA Offensive Player of the Year. He was the #1 Recruit his senior year. He set HS records in PA where QBs like Montana, Unitas, Blanda, Marino, Namath, and half dozen other legendary HS QBs had played before him.

He was the real deal until he came to ND and broke a collarbone in practice the week before his freshman opener. He was never the same after that. Despite two broken bones he still set more than 20 records at ND while playing for a coach that was clueless about a pro set. Lou had made that clear with the jets. Powlus had 3 OC's and 3 different QB coaches at ND. None were really pro set people. He also had an OLine coach that refused to cooperate with Holtz's installation of the Blarney Offense.

Powlus is the opposite example of the point you're trying to make. Powlus didn't run his mouth.
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This is why I'll never jump on the Holtz bandwagon. I thought little of him in his Arkansas and Minnesota days. His brief stint with the Jets is telling.

I accept that I am a cynic, but his "motivation" always struck me as akin to tent preacher, elixir salesmen bullshit. In the realm of "How to Make Friends and Bullshit People." Dale Carnegie sired generations of charlatans selling weight loss, get-rich-quick "earn millions at home scamming people from your computer" schemes.

Powlus did his best under the circumstances. He never enjoyed the success he might have had with proper "handling." He never showed any rancor toward Lou or ND. He even returned to the program in later years to help as best he could.

A Notre Dame Man if ever I saw one.
 
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Bluto said:
So referring to someone as Koontah Kintay is cool? Great...didn't a bunch of panties get bunched when words like "cracker" and "honkey" were thrown around?
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It was a mere play on his name and had ZERO racial undertone. If it had, t'would be a different story. Stop trying to make this something it isn't.
 
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dshans said:
This is why I'll never jump on the Holtz bandwagon. I thought little of him in his Arkansas and Minnesota days. His brief stint with the Jets is telling.

I accept that I am a cynic, but his "motivation" always struck me as akin to tent preacher, elixir salesmen bullshit.
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Might just be a date and time thing, college football is a different game now. Holtz never an X's and O's genius, but he was perfectly suited to optimizing the advantages and dealing with the fishbowl of a top-tier program, both of which were magnified when he coached here compared to today. Lou Holtz was a rich man's Mack Brown- he could recruit the lights out, play politics, work a crowd, and ensure the program was running smoothly and in a unified direction all the way from recruiting to playcalling. That type of CEO coach is getting rarer and rarer as parity increases between the Old and New Money of college football, you need the X's and O's advantage more now than you did then.
 
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So ...
If I read this aller et retour correctly, monsieur Bryant bypassed the "tee" on his way to our ladies "clubhouses?"



Relax. Just a little light tete a tete.
 
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chubler said:
Might just be a date and time thing, college football is a different game now. Holtz never an X's and O's genius, but he was perfectly suited to optimizing the advantages and dealing with the fishbowl of a top-tier program, both of which were magnified when he coached here compared to today. Lou Holtz was a rich man's Mack Brown- he could recruit the lights out, play politics, work a crowd, and ensure the program was running smoothly and in a unified direction all the way from recruiting to playcalling. That type of CEO coach is getting rarer and rarer as parity increases between the Old and New Money of college football, you need the X's and O's advantage more now than you did then.
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Interestingly, the CEO thing is probably also Kelly's strong suit. Though at a program as high-profile as Notre Dame, I'd argue it's still more important than Xs and Os, maybe even moreso when Holtz was coaching. Staffs are bigger. Recruiting has become a two-year marathon. Media demands are vastly greater. Alumni glad-handing is at least as important. Assistants can manage a lot of what happens between the lines on Saturday. But someone's got to steer the ship. What Kelly's got to watch out for - and what was Mack Brown's downfall - is that all that stuff doesn't distance him from the actual players. He seems to know that, though, which is good.
 
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GBdomer said:
Per
TJ
Greg
Bryant
Is
The
Leader
To
Be
Notre
Dames
Punt
Returner
This
Year
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Per Bryant himself he said as much last Friday.

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<p>Greg Bryant says he will be the punt returner this year and also return some kickoffs when Amir Carlisle "is a little tired or something."</p>
— Andrew Owens (@BGI_AndrewOwens) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_AndrewOwens/statuses/449659424899338240">March 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
 
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Greg Bryant feels poised to be a force for Notre Dame | CSN Chicago

SOUTH BEND, Ind. — Greg Bryant read the rumors last fall, the ones that said he wouldn't last at Notre Dame.

It was the kind of speculation that follows any hyped recruit who doesn't play in his first year on campus. Because Bryant came to Notre Dame from the Miami area rated as a five-star running back — a designation and position that often equates to playing time and success as a true freshman — it only turned up the noise.

But Bryant's still here, and said bolting from Notre Dame never was on the table.

"I used to look online and see people saying, 'Oh like he's transferring, he's leaving,' " Bryant said. "I used to look at it and think like, 'Whoa, where did that come from?' I never thought about leaving here or nothing. It's just, I guess people see the hard times I was going through and they felt like I was leaving, but it never crossed my mind to leave this place."
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