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If it's not over the mountains, I'm not impressed.
'15 CA QB Blake Barnett (Arizona State Transfer)
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I mean its at least 60 yards, which is still damn impressive
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after watching it for a second time, i think it is prob 80 yards IF that field is really 100 yards...he throws from endzone of one end to what appears to be about on the 20 yard line down field...look in reference to the goal post after catch
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This is what I thought when I watched it the first time, but now after a second viewing, I'm not sure if that field is a full 100 yards lol.
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I wasn't going to say anything but if you measure the goalposts on either end zone, figuring the camera is on the sideline. Looking at the camera angle at either end zone as creating the hypotenuse of a right triangle, and assuming the goal posts are the same height, and the field is level, you can deduce the camera is about two thirds of the way down the field away from Blake. From his position you can see that he must be near the goal line when he throws. You can also see clues in the video that the camera us beyond the fifty, from the thrower.
More important however, why would someone lie about this?
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Hey you know what, how far was Doug Flute's, Hail Mary?
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64 or 65 yards?
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Considering that Flutie is only 3'7", and the flight trajectory of the football...... divide the velocity by the weight of the ball.......and you get about 127.3 yards.
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I think the coin flip is done on the 40 on that field. lol
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So I gotta ask. At this point, is it really just his release that is holding him back in the rankings. I've watched all 3 (Barnett, Town and Rosen) and honestly, his release isn't even bad. It could use some work, but honestly he looks like a pretty well polished passer. Not to mention his athleticism and arm strength are miles ahead of either Rosen or Town. I know that Barnett will definitely shoot up the rankings in camps, but I think it's a little silly to drop him that much because of a slightly odd release.
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Who dropped him? He has already shot up the rankings. He started ~#22 on the composite QB list and is now #3
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This. It's not textbook, but it's still better as a whole than most D1 players. It's also quicker than Zaire's. Even if nothing changes (which hopefully it'll tighten up a bit), if that's the worst of his problems we're going to have a damn fine quarterback.
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FWIW, ~December-ish he was rated around an 88 I believe on 247. Now he's up to a 95 I think. When the services find out they were 'wrong', they typically don't shoot someone up/down significantly, all at once. Blake has gotten incrimental bumps in his rating at every juncture, and he'll probably end up getting one or two more IMO. Saw the same thing with Luatua last year. Started out rated high, and continued to drop slowly, but not all at once.
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Is one of 4 QB's so far that have been invited to the Rivals 5 star challenge. Obviously rivals will have a lot of coverage of this event which will make it fun to follow Blake's success there.
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Up to #54 overall, #4 DT-QB on ESPN
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I don't want to be short sided and say that's crazy because I haven't seen all of the DT quarterbacks, but I have a hard time believing there are 3 better than Blake in this class.
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They have
1. Kyler Murray - Football Recruiting - Player Profiles - ESPN
2. Jarrett Stidham - Football Recruiting - Player Profiles - ESPN
3. Deondre Francois - Football Recruiting - Player Profiles - ESPN
Torrance Gibson is also the #8 overall player but they list him as an ATH
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National recruiting analysts Craig Haubert and Tom Luginbill pick the 2015 prospects they think are most likely to make an immediate impact in college and those who best project to the first round of a future NFL draft.
# 6Blake BarnettNotre Dame Fighting Irish
QB-DTCorona, Calif./SantiagoESPN 300: 54Previous rank: 10
Analysis: If there is one position that Notre Dame absolutely must hit a home run on, it's at quarterback. Barnett is the Irish's best shot in years and the closest thing -- if they can hold on to him -- to having a difference maker at the most important position. He is exactly what Brian Kelly wants: a pocket passer with dual-threat capabilities who can be a runner but not the runner.
# 6Blake BarnettNotre Dame Fighting Irish
QB-DTCorona, Calif./SantiagoESPN 300: 54Previous rank: 10
Analysis: If there is one position that Notre Dame absolutely must hit a home run on, it's at quarterback. Barnett is the Irish's best shot in years and the closest thing -- if they can hold on to him -- to having a difference maker at the most important position. He is exactly what Brian Kelly wants: a pocket passer with dual-threat capabilities who can be a runner but not the runner.
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I feel like ND's QB issues are a thing of the past. Golson, Ziarre, Kizer, Barnett. Granted only one has any collegiate experience. But they're all legit QB prospects coming out of high school.
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And Ricky Town has fallen to #92 overall.
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What QB issues would those be? In the last ten years, the only QB we had who WASN'T a "legit prospect coming out of high school" was Tommy Rees, and he never would have played a down if Dayne Crist hadn't been a bust and Everett Golson hadn't gotten suspended. The prospect of Quinn, Clausen, Crist, Golson was probably just as sexy in 2009 as Golson, Zaire, Kizer, Barnett seems now. Kizer could get suspended and Barnett could bust out just like EG and DC did. If anything, I think quarterback has been one of the unique strengths we've had in the past decade.
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Seriously? Maybe because Town was laughably overrated as the "#1" prospect in this class.
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Sorry GB, but I'm with Lax on this one. I really don't think Town is as good as people previously thought. With that said I've never been too high on ESPN but I think they have this one right so far.
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I don't like the what if game, but looking back on BK's seasons:
2010: Could've had Clausen, should've won the closer games against UM, MSU, Tulsa, and not get blown out by Navy...ugh....12-1 with bowl win
2011: The year of the turnover. Had Dayne not been a complete bust and Tommy hadn't earned the name Turnover Tommy, this season could've been a great one. Should've had wins against USF and UM and likely win against FSU...11-2 with a bowl win.
2012: BK's gets Golson for a full year and with Tommy's improvements and help, the team goes 12-1 with a loss in the championship game
2013: BK loses Golson to suspension. Tommy plays a decent season but in typical fashion he had his moments of turnovers. I don't believe for one second that ND couldn't beat OU again (if Golson played)...so after the defense gave away the UM game, ND could've went the rest of the season undefeated....12-1 with a bowl win.
I realize this is a ridiculous post but I'm trying to prove that BK hasn't had an elite QB other than one year....the year ND went to the title game. There's been a lot of very close games in BK's tenure and almost all of them included a QB turnover that proved to be very costly (yes, some losses were on the defense or other players on the team but you get my point). These are the "issues" I'm referring to. The next group of QBs to come to ND (and the two current ones on the roster) seem to have above average to elite talents. I think that should worth a few extra wins, don't you?
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Ricky Town has almost every offer in the country. Maybe the top arm in the country and strength wise. Scout, rivals, 24/7 all have him in the top two QBs in the country. Plenty of head coaches in the country think he is damn good as well as people who get paid to analyze recruits. You're telling me there are 98 players in the country better then Ricky Town? Ha
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I think we agree in principle, I just don't describe what you're talking about as "QB issues" that needed fixing. They were just a series of weird shit that all happened in a row. Based on what we knew about Clausen, Crist, and Everett before they actually played (and left early and got suspended), we looked like we should have been in good shape all through those years. I agree that things look good going forward but we could be heading straight for another suspension, early departure, or bust just like we had in the recent past.