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Bogtrotter07
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I agree completely. My wife is a Saint Mary's graduate and three years after graduation I probably have more continued friendships with SMC students than ND students. Even most of my SMC friends acknowledge that the culture over there can be somewhat hostile towards Notre Dame and men in general. I think it's due to a combination of different types of people that together leads to something unhealthy.
1. Many of the students are from Catholic, all-female high schools. They have had limited exposure to males in academic or social settings, which creates a natural discomford. With the high Catholic population, Notre Dame also has many freshmen enrolling from single-sex high schools, but they're given a bit of a baptism by fire during Frosh-O and have to get over their discomfort real quick once classes start.
2. Many students went to SMC specifically because it's an all-women's college rather than deciding "this is the school I like best, and it just happens to be an all-women's college." Again, this comes with certain innate biases. There's a reason why they sought out an all-female education.
3. Some of the women are from "Notre Dame families" and feel tremendous pressure to be a part of that community. This creates resentment from the girls who went to Saint Mary's for its own sake, because every SMC student will tell you that Notre Dame had nothing to do with their decision to enroll, even though, for many of them, it did.
This is getting a bit further off topic, but I believe that the worst thing that ever happened to Saint Mary's was when Notre Dame admitted women. I'm not saying it was right or wrong, but I think if Notre Dame were still an all-male school, Saint Mary's would have developed at a similar pace and both would be recognized as elite institutions on par with where Notre Dame is now. Saint Mary's still has some excellent students, but they've been forced to lower their admissions standards just to fill the freshman class every year. The applicant pool just isn't large enough. It's causing some legitimate financial concerns for the school.
Is this a class issue?
And there is two more elephants in the room.
One is the very real issue of race; did it influence a panic that may have led to the original complaint.
And the last elephant? There is one more thing required than the two things that I quoted above for their to be a crime. Inability to consent.
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