'12 NY DT Jarron Jones (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

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Outside of message boards, was this decision ever really "being made". I don't remember anyone actually on the staff mentioning a transition.

Obviously the coaches read the boards... just ask NDNation...
 

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I agree. Is there still a decision being made as far as whether we will be in the 3-4 alignment or 4-3?

Wait what? The coaches have always said that we will play a lot of both 4-down and 3-down, and I don't recall any of them saying that they are considering switching full time to a 4-down base.

Some of us have wondered whether we might want to go that way based on recruiting, but as far as I know that is no more than the barest speculation. Personally I've never bought into it.
 

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Whether or not they were having the discussion behind closed doors, I have no idea. However, there was never anything made public that they were deciding upon. In fact, from everything I've read most people BGI, II, TJ at II, etc. have all said that it would be far fetch to think that if the same coaches are in place that they would be completely changing defensive structure. Keep in mind we run a 4-3 50% of the time. I agree with the opinions I've read as well as agree that its an interesting topic for discussion.
 

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Outside of message boards, was this decision ever really "being made". I don't remember anyone actually on the staff mentioning a transition.

Thanks, I just remembered some talk of possibly switching to a 4-3. I was unsure whether this was something that was actually on the table or not. Thanks for clearing up.
 

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I know Jarron played NT out of need for ND this year and played well. But, he looked a little unnatural at the position. I would like to see him at 3-4 DE next year and move inside to DT in pass rushing downs. Just seems like a better more comfortable fit for him.

Just my opinion and what do I know.
 

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I know Jarron played NT out of need for ND this year and played well. But, he looked a little unnatural at the position. I would like to see him at 3-4 DE next year and move inside to DT in pass rushing downs. Just seems like a better more comfortable fit for him.

Just my opinion and what do I know.

If not Jones, who do you move inside next year? Stockton, Nix and Schwenke are all gone, and Springmann is coming off a major injury.
 

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I know Jarron played NT out of need for ND this year and played well. But, he looked a little unnatural at the position. I would like to see him at 3-4 DE next year and move inside to DT in pass rushing downs. Just seems like a better more comfortable fit for him.

Just my opinion and what do I know.

I always found it interesting that everyone puts him at NT when he's basically the same height/weight as Tuitt.
 

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Someone tell the big guy there should be a space in there

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Notre dame will be apart of that playoff next year.</p>— Jarron Jones (@Who_GotJones94) <a href="https://twitter.com/Who_GotJones94/statuses/420186159046610944">January 6, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Someone tell the big guy there should be a space in there

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Notre dame will be apart of that playoff next year.</p>— Jarron Jones (@Who_GotJones94) <a href="https://twitter.com/Who_GotJones94/statuses/420186159046610944">January 6, 2014</a></blockquote>
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He's practicing his gap-filling.
 

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Someone tell the big guy there should be a space in there

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Notre dame will be apart of that playoff next year.</p>— Jarron Jones (@Who_GotJones94) <a href="https://twitter.com/Who_GotJones94/statuses/420186159046610944">January 6, 2014</a></blockquote>
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or a "from"

Bazinga!
 

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That must have been sweet

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>In anthro class, debating who is the greatest athlete of all time (Bo Jackson) and this girl put the class on FaceTime with Michael Phelps &#55357;&#56883;</p>— Jarron Jones (@Who_GotJones94) <a href="https://twitter.com/Who_GotJones94/statuses/431638838029459456">February 7, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Very encouraged by his play towards the end of last year. It's nice he'll be around for another 3.
 

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Very encouraged by his play towards the end of last year. It's nice he'll be around for another 3.


Same. He's poised for a big '14. You could tell it "clicked" for him at the end of the season and confidence came along with it.
 

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Same. He's poised for a big '14. You could tell it "clicked" for him at the end of the season and confidence came along with it.

Most will think I am crazy, but I feel Jarron has a much better 14 than tuitt's 13
 

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Most will think I am crazy, but I feel Jarron has a much better 14 than tuitt's 13

Yea, I would be extremely surprised if that happened and see very little chance. We weren't excited by Tuitts play because our expectations were so high. He had 7.5 sack, 9 TFL, and 13 QB hurries. Those all led the team.
 

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Yea, I would be extremely surprised if that happened and see very little chance. We weren't excited by Tuitts play because our expectations were so high. He had 7.5 sack, 9 TFL, and 13 QB hurries. Those all led the team.

If he (or the rest of the defense for that matter) played like he did in the second half vs USC all year, he would be a top 5 pick this year.
 
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If he (or the rest of the defense for that matter) played like he did in the second half vs USC all year, he would be a top 5 pick this year.

The defensive line will be utilized differently this year.

I think as a product of the new defensive philosophy that will be in place, (everything that I hear Kelly say tells me BVG has a blank check, and everything I hear says the assistants may have been a little disgruntled before but are all, all in now), statistics will be much higher for defensive linemen. And, all defensive players will record more turnovers, caused fumbles, tackles for loss, and sacks than in the previous four years.
 

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The defensive line will be utilized differently this year.

I think as a product of the new defensive philosophy that will be in place, (everything that I hear Kelly say tells me BVG has a blank check, and everything I hear says the assistants may have been a little disgruntled before but are all, all in now), statistics will be much higher for defensive linemen. And, all defensive players will record more turnovers, caused fumbles, tackles for loss, and sacks than in the previous four years.

Let's hope that we have a Dlineman collect 12 sacks, LB with seven INT's, and a S with 7 INT's because that's the bar now.
 
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Let's hope that we have a Dlineman collect 12 sacks, LB with seven INT's, and a S with 7 INT's because that's the bar now.

Now before this gets going I was not saying that every player was going to beat the record, or that the records were going to "fall" immediately. What I am saying, is to expect more big play production from this defense in general, and a higher percentage more from the d-linemen specifically.

If the average for all the linemen played last year was 2.0 sacks, I could see an average between 3.0 (much higher would be a 50 percent improvement) and 4.0 being achievable without even breaking a single season record. Something like that.
 

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Someone tell the big guy there should be a space in there

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Notre dame will be apart of that playoff next year.</p>— Jarron Jones (@Who_GotJones94) <a href="https://twitter.com/Who_GotJones94/statuses/420186159046610944">January 6, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Being apart of the Notre Dame business school, you get to come in contact with literally some of the smartest people in the business world.</p>— Chase Hounshell (@chasehounshell) <a href="https://twitter.com/chasehounshell/statuses/431802674875351041">February 7, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Man, who teaches the English courses on campus? Amirite, dshans?
 

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Jones Having Fun With New Defense

For Notre Dame’s defense the arrival of new coordinator Brian VanGorder means getting to know a new coach, a new system and a new language. For Jarron Jones and the rest of the Irish defensive tackles it means having a lot more fun on the field, too.

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Junior nose guard Jarron Jones will have less reading and more attacking to do in the 2014 Irish defense.

Jones, a junior slated to step into a large void at the center of the Irish defensive line next fall, said the switch from a 3-4 defense to the 4-3 alignment run by VanGorder has made it easier to be excited about spring practice. Jones said his new assignments are simpler and give him more chances to make plays.

“It just allows us to play more aggressive,” he said. “Not too much of a mental game, it’s pretty much just whip the person that’s in front of you and win the gap. It’s a lot more fun in that way.”

The role of a nose guard in Notre Dame’s defense during Jones’ career to this point has been a thankless one. Big bodies like Louis Nix III and Kona Schwenke were used to eat up blockers and create space for the team’s linebackers to rack up tackles and glory. Jones got a taste of that during the final month of the 2013 season when he filled in for an injured Nix.

Their job required them to mind two gaps when facing the run, meaning they worked side-to-side along the line of scrimmage rather than plowing ahead at full speed to try to be the aggressor. Irish head coach Brian Kelly said that system was necessary for his first few seasons to build a foundation defensively.

Kelly said even if VanGorder had not replaced former coordinator Bob Diaco, the Irish had plans to migrate toward a more aggressive front seven in 2014. Having a new voice in charge, though, adds another layer to the jolt of energy.

“I can understand the nose guard being happy about anything that doesn’t have to do with two- gapping,” Kelly said. “I just think there’s an energy there that Coach VanGorder brings to the defense anyway. There’s some new teaching and some new terminology. Who doesn’t like to blitz? Who doesn’t like to rip through the A gap and not have to worry about holding onto another gap?”

Jones agreed that having a new coach to impress keeps the relatively young group of defensive linemen sitting up straight in defensive meetings and attentive during practice.

Other than returning starter Sheldon Day, Jones has the most defensive line experience of any one on the field this spring. He played regularly during the month of November after redshirting his freshman year and spending parts of his sophomore season on the scout team. Day and Jones are joined on the first line by converted outside linebackers Romeo Okwara and Ishaq Williams, both of whom are still learning the position. VanGorder said Jones is also in the process of figuring things out as his responsibilities change.

“He’s in that same fight in terms of the process,” VanGorder said. “Both Romeo and Jarron show ability to be productive. That’s a good sign. We’ve just gotta keep cleaning their games up.”

The 6-foot-6 Jones and his long wingspan are better suited to play the space-gobbling 3-4 role, even if that may be a little less exciting. Nose guard in a four-man front are more often cast as stockier, quick players.

“I’m none of those things. I’m more powerful, tall, lengthy,” he said. “I just want to show I can use my advantages in the 4-3 just as well as the advantages of the prototypical nose guard in the 4-3.”

Jones said his increased game action during the final month of the regular season —along with losing Nix and Schwenke — motivated him to become a more consistent player this spring and moving forward. He said his goal was to turn the 10 good and five average practices he had a year ago into 15 great practices this spring. It’s been an easier battle than expected so far because he’s having fun.
 

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the DL should be much more excited under BVG....idk about you guys, but i'm really hoping for some more negative plays for the defense this year.
 

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the DL should be much more excited under BVG....idk about you guys, but i'm really hoping for some more negative plays for the defense this year.

I'm hoping that we have a fast paced offense that puts a lot of points on the board.

Then our defense can be attacking and concentrate on a) causing turnovers and b) stopping the "small bite" type plays like 4 yard runs and short out patterns to TE's. If teams score on us, I want them to do it fast, that way we get our offense on the field and the defense can rest.
 

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I don't think our D will pitch a lot of shutouts, but I think they'll force more turnovers this year for sure, and they'll be capable of getting key stops. Our offense has the weapons that should allow it to outscore opponents this year, and I think an aggressive D will help beat down opponents.
 

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