'14 OH DT Daniel Cage (Notre Dame Signee)

[rikkitikki08]

We seem to have a strong shot at Quick and the two DTs. I'd be thrilled with that finish. Odd to be gaining momentum going into Signing Day. Feels like it's usually going the other direction.

Plenty of time for someone to screw up

 

[ThePiombino]

Plenty of time for someone to screw up

And don't forget that UCLA has until August to flip a commitment.

 

[ResLife Hero]

Plenty of time for someone to screw up

Cue the premature press releases.

 

[Cackalacky]

And don't forget that UCLA has until August to flip a commitment.

Brutal honesty is best served fresh.

 

[dublinirish]

i have a feeling there will be more Matthew Thomas/EV scenario's in CFB this spring, feel like the pandora's box was opened last year and there is no going back

 

[Rizzophil]

i have a feeling there will be more Matthew Thomas/EV scenario's in CFB this spring, feel like the pandora's box was opened last year and there is no going back

Unfortunately, I agree with you.

 

[stlnd01]

i have a feeling there will be more Matthew Thomas/EV scenario's in CFB this spring, feel like the pandora's box was opened last year and there is no going back

Probably. But on the plus side, I'll bet none of them involve us. We've got a pretty low-drama bunch this year.

 

[dublinirish]

Probably. But on the plus side, I'll bet none of them involve us. We've got a pretty low-drama bunch this year.

yep and hopefully some of it happens to ND's rivals lol

 

[Cpnd1]

@NDatRivals: RT @Jake_Brown: RT @JoshHelmholdt: The latest word I'm hearing on 3star DT Daniel Cage, for #ND fans ($): http://t.co/xkpWtvNfDi

 

[connor_in]

Just as an FYI on McDowell...the word is that the parents don't want him at either MSU or scUM. Per conversations at the MSU board, rumors are that his parents want him to get away from a particular crowd. Had him switch high schools and now don't want him to go to either of the close schools where they could catch back up to him without them around. Kinda sad really...

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Just as an FYI on McDowell...the word is that the parents don't want him at either MSU or scUM. Per conversations at the MSU board, rumors are that his parents want him to get away from a particular crowd. Had him switch high schools and now don't want him to go to either of the close schools where they could catch back up to him without them around. Kinda sad really...

Sounds like good parenting to me.

 

[yankeeND]

Sounds like good parenting to me.

Me too. MSU's QB recruit for next year slammed a security guard on his head at school. I am sure they are aware if that also. Granted I doubt he ends up playing for a D1 school after that incident but I heard the longest yard has an opening.

 

[NCND]

Sounds like good parenting to me.

EXACTLY what I was about to say.

 

[woolybug25]

Just as an FYI on McDowell...the word is that the parents don't want him at either MSU or scUM. Per conversations at the MSU board, rumors are that his parents want him to get away from a particular crowd. Had him switch high schools and now don't want him to go to either of the close schools where they could catch back up to him without them around. Kinda sad really...

Geez. Sounds like he should really attend a small, christian school where he will be challenged. That way, he is less likely to fall into a bad crowd and will be surrounded by good influences.

I wonder where he could go do that?

smh...

 

[Emcee77]

Oh yeah, the dad was really explicit about it with Wiltfong yesterday. He wants Malik out of Michigan and away from his friends. I think the article is free:

Malik McDowell - Signing Day Decision - In State Out Of State

How embarrassing! Can you imagine your dad telling the whole world how much he hates your friends? What if Malik insists on going to MSU? I think it's a big tactical blunder by the dad to be so candid with Wiltfong.

Not that I disagree with his parenting logic ... if Malik is running with a bad crowd, then going away to school is likely the best thing for him, and respect to the dad for providing sound advice even though it isn't what the kid wants to hear.

 

[aubeirish]

Sounds like good parenting to me.

Agreed.

 

[aubeirish]

Geez. Sounds like he should really attend a small, christian school where he will be challenged. That way, he is less likely to fall into a bad crowd and will be surrounded by good influences.

I wonder where he could go do that?

smh...

For what it's worth, his dad is very pro ND. The kid just doesn't want anything to do with us. What can you do.

 

[West Coast Domer]

Probably why the dad pushed ND so much.

 

[woolybug25]

Oh yeah, the dad was really explicit about it with Wiltfong yesterday. He wants Malik out of Michigan and away from his friends. I think the article is free:

Malik McDowell - Signing Day Decision - In State Out Of State

How embarrassing! Can you imagine your dad telling the whole world how much he hates your friends? What if Malik insists on going to MSU? I think it's a big tactical blunder by the dad to be so candid with Wiltfong.

Not that I disagree with logic ... if Malik is running with a bad crowd, then going away to school is likely the best thing for him, and respect to the dad for providing sound advice even though it isn't what the kid wants to hear.

Why is it a tactical blunder? If my kid's friends are screwing up his life, I will tell anyone who wants to hear that I want them to stay away from my son.

 

[Emcee77]

Why is it a tactical blunder? If my kid's friends are screwing up his life, I will tell anyone who wants to hear that I want them to stay away from my son.

Well, to each his own. I'd just be afraid that it might piss Malik off to have the dad air family business in public and, as a consequence, might push him further away from following the dad's sound advice. I think the most persuasive and effective way to guide someone is help him to see the correct decision on his own and make it himself; but now the dad has put Malik in a situation where he likely feels that his dad is trying to make the decision for him and, maybe worse to a teenager, if he goes out of state, the world will interpret that as him bowing to his parents' wishes. Just the fear that everyone will believe that his parents compelled him to go out of state, regardless of whether they are or aren't actually trying to make the decision for him, might be enough to sway a teenager to stay in-state.

Anyway, it doesn't much matter as far as Cage is concerned. MSU 247 reported late last night that Cage is a "Plan A" recruit for MSU, along with McDowell, Jamarco Jones, and TJ Harrell, and MSU will find a way to take all of them if they all want to come.

 

[dublinirish]

Why is it a tactical blunder? If my kid's friends are screwing up his life, I will tell anyone who wants to hear that I want them to stay away from my son.

dude i have read about court cases here where parents pleaded with judges to sent their kids to juvenile detention to keep them away from bad circles of friends. It happens

 

[yankeeND]

Sometimes it doesn't matter how you show it, it just matters that you show it. Being a concerned parent is being a good parent.

 

[woolybug25]

dude i have read about court cases here where parents pleaded with judges to sent their kids to juvenile detention to keep them away from bad circles of friends. It happens

Not sure what you mean here. I didn't see anything wrong with what his dad said.

Well, to each his own. I'd just be afraid that it might piss Malik off to have the dad air family business in public and, as a consequence, might push him further away from following the dad's sound advice. I think the most persuasive and effective way to guide someone is help him to see the correct decision on his own and make it himself; but now the dad has put Malik in a situation where if he goes out of state the world will interpret that as him bowing to his parents' wishes. The fear that everyone will believe that his parents compelled him to go out of state might be enough to sway a teenager to stay in-state.

I hear ya, that being said. It's hard to "guide kids into the right decisions". Typically, I feel like kids make poor decisions across the board. They need guidance from family, friends and mentors to be able to develop good decision making over time. So I never see anything wrong with parents demanding their kids do better for themselves. Setting proper expectations is important, imo. But like you said... it's all preference.

 

[dublinirish]

Not sure what you mean here. I didn't see anything wrong with what his dad said.

my point was in relation to Emcee saying:

How embarrassing! Can you imagine your dad telling the whole world how much he hates your friends?

Im saying parents have done much worse than this to try get the message to their kids that they dont approve of how they are acting/who they are hanging out with

 

[Emcee77]

I hear ya, that being said. It's hard to "guide kids into the right decisions". Typically, I feel like kids make poor decisions across the board. They need guidance from family, friends and mentors to be able to develop good decision making over time. So I never see anything wrong with parents demanding their kids do better for themselves. Setting proper expectations is important, imo. But like you said... it's all preference.

my point was in relation to Emcee saying:

Im saying parents have done much worse than this to try get the message to their kids that they dont approve of how they are acting/who they are hanging out with

I hear you guys. The situation might be so dire that the dad thinks he needs to shout from the rooftops that Malik needs to get away from his current crowd. And it could work ... maybe it will show Malik how serious the dad is about what he's been saying, or maybe it will actually pressure him to leave the state and his friends because he doesn't want the world to think he is some kind of hoodlum. All I'm saying is that it could backfire.

The dad knows his son best, obviously, so I didn't mean to seem overly critical. I was just giving my initial reaction.

 

[Irish#1]

I hear you guys. The situation might be so dire that the dad thinks he needs to shout from the rooftops that Malik needs to get away from his current crowd. And it could work ... maybe it will show Malik how serious the dad is about what he's been saying, or maybe it will actually pressure him to leave the state and his friends because he doesn't want the world to think he is some kind of hoodlum. All I'm saying is that it could backfire.

The dad knows his son best, obviously, so I didn't mean to seem overly critical. I was just giving my initial reaction.

I was thinking the same thing. You know this isn't something (bad friends) that just cropped up. I imagine his parents have been on him for a while to steer clear of the wrong types. His dad probably feels the kid isn't listening and has taken this direction to get him to see how serious he is. I guess we'll find out tomorrow how much he respects his parents.

 

[connor_in]

I was thinking the same thing. You know this isn't something (bad friends) that just cropped up. I imagine his parents have been on him for a while to steer clear of the wrong types. His dad probably feels the kid isn't listening and has taken this direction to get him to see how serious he is. I guess we'll find out tomorrow how much he respects his parents.

I believe his parents had him switch high schools as well

BTW, earlier I referred to the situation as kinda sad...people countered with good parenting...even with good parenting, the situation is kinda sad really...the only way they feel they can keep him from certain influences is to push him far away, that also makes it harder for his own family to come to visit him...its sad it has to come to this, even though it is good parenting and the best thing for him

 

[yankeeND]

I believe his parents had him switch high schools as well

BTW, earlier I referred to the situation as kinda sad...people countered with good parenting...even with good parenting, the situation is kinda sad really...the only way they feel they can keep him from certain influences is to push him far away, that also makes it harder for his own family to come to visit him...its sad it has to come to this, even though it is good parenting and the best thing for him

This is all true but, have you ever been to Michigan? Yuck

 

[woolybug25]

This is all true but, have you ever been to Michigan? Yuck

Michigan is a beautiful state. Bite your tongue.

 

[Redbar]

Wilting just CB'd him to ND!