'14 FL DE/OLB Richard Yeargin III (Clemson Verbal)

[TheChosen1]

has he always been a 3 star in rivals or was he dropped from a 4 recently?

Dropped to 3 after army bowl.

 

[tdbaum1]

Not the worst but it still doesn't sit well. I would like to see someone crunch the numbers for the following scenario: big school (sec, big 10, big 12, etc.), commits, decommits, etc. I think you get what I'm sayin. I just don't know whether to think it happens more to is or I'm just biased. It be nice to have some numbers that show the truth.

 

[IrishLax]

We all know my opinion on Yeargin. Other people still think he is a stud or otherwise a superb athlete. Here is an opinion from Coach D... formerly of ISD, now a recruiting coordinator/position coach for a small college but still takes time to give his no-holds-barred opinion of prospects and how they will fit with ND:

Not surprised at all. Kid never wanted to be at ND. He's talented, no doubt, but let's be honest, ND loaded up at OLB's in the last two classes. There are a lot of guys in this class and last year's that can play DE/OLB. They'll be fine.

Plus this opens up a spot potentially either in this class or next year's. Not worried about it.

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Yeargin was a good player and a good prospect. If he came to ND he would have had a chance to be a good player. But he also is a guy I was concerned about in regards to his desire to really be at ND. He didn't want to be there. There are plenty of other guys in the freshman class and in this class who bring similar or better skills to the table.

Even if you think he is great prospect for some reason, you cannot deny that DT is a HUGE need... whereas Yeargin was not appreciably better than his other classmates for either rush OLB or DE.

Literally the least I have ever cared about a decommit. If it allows us to take Alexander + Quick + McKenzie + DT I will actually be ecstatic that he left (but that scenario is unlikely).

 

[tdbaum1]

*us

 

[IrishLax]

Not the worst but it still doesn't sit well. I would like to see someone crunch the numbers for the following scenario: big school (sec, big 10, big 12, etc.), commits, decommits, etc. I think you get what I'm sayin. I just don't know whether to think it happens more to is or I'm just biased. It be nice to have some numbers that show the truth.

Does not happen appreciably more to us than other schools.

 

[tdbaum1]

Does not happen appreciably more to us than other schools.

I didn't think so...it was just curiosity. I thought the numbers would show it's about the same as other programs...it just magnified when it's ND cause we pay so much attention to it.

 

[IrishLax]

I didn't think so...it was just curiosity. I thought the numbers would show it's about the same as other programs...it just magnified when it's ND cause we pay so much attention to it.

Right, we see every decommit, whereas we don't pay attention to the other schools. It's a perception thing. Although the EV saga where he backed out of his LOI was pretty darn unique...

 

[gkIrish]

Right, we see every decommit, whereas we don't pay attention to the other schools. It's a perception thing. Although the EV saga where he backed out of his LOI was pretty darn unique...

This question obviously belongs in another thread, but since you brought up EV...did we ever find out why the hell he got a waiver to play immediately?

 

[Irishnuke]

Meh

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

FWIW:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Posted last week Clemson was still a threat for Yeargin. Just spoke w/ WR Tay Scott who said Yeargin told him of his next move: "Just watch"</p>— Anna Hickey (@AnnaHScout) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnnaHScout/statuses/426912368707133440">January 25, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Florida?

Dropped to 3 after army bowl.

I was in the camp that this kid was a baller. His senior tape is pretty damn nasty. But, as I was watched the Army bowl I realized that he had a long way to go as a stand up LB. He was slow to react, didn't show much urgency in pursuit, and was frequently arriving at the ball after the tackle had been made.

This is a long way of saying that the drop was warranted and to echo IM8 and others, he had a long way to go to see the field for us. This won't hurt us next year and with any luck we can fill the spot with an equally talented or better player next year.

And, yes I know, we love guys when they are committed and they suck when they aren't coming. Sue me.

 

[GBdomer]

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[irishog77]

I'm not heartbroken over losing him...but I was looking forward to being able to say, "Dick Yeargin III" for the next 4 years.

 

[Irish Insanity]

 

[Fbolt]

FUCK. Always thought it was weird that staff wasn't visiting him. Couple that with the fact that he stripped twitter of all ND stuff recently, and this is hardly a surprise.

Really, really wanted this guy. Lax, bet's paid.

This makes me wonder if BVG wasn't a fan.

 

[Ironman8]

I'm guessing he had a bet with Ironman, given the post. So I'd say him, lol.

Nope.

 

[Ironman8]

Right, we see every decommit, whereas we don't pay attention to the other schools. It's a perception thing. Although the EV saga where he backed out of his LOI was pretty darn unique...

Exactly. For instance, Rutgers now has 10 (!!!!) decommitments in their 2014 class, and it's possible more are coming.

 

[Ironman8]

I'll be that guy... I wouldn't.

Here's the reality, Mokeouah is a huge project, probably even more so than Yeargin. At least Yeargin had the remote possibility of playing another position and contribute to special teams. Shoot, Yeargin's freaky athleticism might have his upside at his position higher than Mokeouah at his.

Mokeouah could turn out to be a great player for us and I hope he does. But if Dickerson was still commited, then he wouldn't even have an offer.

Downplay this loss if you want, fellas. We lost a nice recruit today.

I think I disagree with this. BVG made it clear the second he was hired Mokwuah was a guy he really, really wanted and had no idea why he didn't have an offer from us. I think if Dickerson was still committed we would have taken both guys and had a monster DT haul.

Coach D on ISD (whose opinion I think everyone knows I think very highly of) loves this kid. He does think Matt Dickerson is a better prospect, but thinks we really lucked out in getting Mokwuah after Dickerson chose to stay closer to home. He is the guy Coach D wanted the most out of any of the new DT targets, and has the upside and tools to be really good. While he is really raw and is going to need a couple years of strength conditioning and coaching, he could be special.

Another interesting note I saw was that originally Pete was trying to EE to Rutgers, and the only reason we were able to get him was that him EE'ing fell through and he had to enroll in June. Real glad that happened.

 

[woolybug25]

I know coach and BVG both really like him, but if the staff really liked him that much, he wouldn't have been the fourth DT offer they issued after Dickerson's decommit.

Coach also said that this kid is raw. It's quite possible that this kid never develops or gets passed by other guys. He is an exciting prospect because of that possibility of being devoloped, but that's his most redeeming quality... Potential.

 

[texbender]

sorry to lose him, next man in.

 

[Ironman8]

I know coach and BVG both really like him, but if the staff really liked him that much, he wouldn't have been the fourth DT offer they issued after Dickerson's decommit.

Coach also said that this kid is raw. It's quite possible that this kid never develops or gets passed by other guys. He is an exciting prospect because of that possibility of being devoloped, but that's his most redeeming quality... Potential.

He was the first recruit BVG visited once hired. All site mods have stated he was the #1 DT on BVG's board once he was hired. He was obviously a priority.

 

[woolybug25]

He was the first recruit BVG visited once hired. All site mods have stated he was the #1 DT on BVG's board once he was hired. He was obviously a priority.

He was the fourth DT offered and the first three were all offered around the same time. Visits aside, there were three other guys that we offered before him. Just because a recruit is liked, doesn't mean they have the green light to add them to the class. It's just my opinion, but I stand by my statement that I don't think that he'd have an offer if Dickerson was still committed. Again... Just my opinion.

 

[stlnd01]

He was the fourth DT offered and the first three were all offered around the same time. Visits aside, there were three other guys that we offered before him. Just because a recruit is liked, doesn't mean they have the green light to add them to the class. It's just my opinion, but I stand by my statement that I don't think that he'd have an offer if Dickerson was still committed. Again... Just my opinion.

We also changed defensive coordinators in that time and are still pursuing other DTs for a slot beyond the one vacated by Dickerson. So, it's hard to say.
Regardless, glad to Mokwuah. Want another DT. Not too broken up about RYIII. South Florida kids who don't want to be here don't tend to stick.

 

[Ironman8]

He was the fourth DT offered and the first three were all offered around the same time. Visits aside, there were three other guys that we offered before him. Just because a recruit is liked, doesn't mean they have the green light to add them to the class. It's just my opinion, but I stand by my statement that I don't think that he'd have an offer if Dickerson was still committed. Again... Just my opinion.

I can tell we are obviously not going to come to an argreement here, but to further my point, this is again what TJ on II had to say about Pete when he came up as a potential recruit:

BVG really likes and wants this kid. Immediate priority upon hiring

I assume the 3 others you are talking about are Griffin, Cage and Sawyers? Griffin was never officially offered (it was contingent on him coming to campus), and we had had some previous communication, albeit on a small scale, with both Sawyers and Cage well before Mokwuah. The staff had seen and talked with both before offering. Once BVG met and saw Mokwuah, he was offered and pursued with intensity.

I hear what you are saying, and you could be right, but when I see the pieces out there it just seems to me that sure seems like he was at the top of the board once BVG was hired. And yeah, obviously he is very raw, but most lower ranked guys who explode once in college and go high in the NFL draft are. If you are not getting the elite, top 5-10 guys at a position, why wouldn't you go for the huge upside guys and trust in your player development program to help him achieve his potential?

When Coach D said he liked him more than Holley, to me that is saying a lot. Obviously BVG sees the same thing. He has a low floor, for sure, but the upside is undeniable and you have to put trust that the player development will get him to where he needs to be to help the team out in 2-3 years.

 

[FearTheBeard]

Didnt dickerson have some type of back injury? Could be a good thing we get someone else instead

 

[Ironman8]

Didnt dickerson have some type of back injury? Could be a good thing we get someone else instead

He had a fractured back, but everyone expects him to be fully recovered and ready to go by the time he enters a school in June.

 

[GBdomer]

Committed to Clemson

 

[irish o'phile]

shocking.

 

[eNDzone]

I don't know why but from the start I didn't see him sticking.

 

[rtrn2glory]

GTFO!!!!!

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Lmfao


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