'14 FL DE/OLB Richard Yeargin III (Clemson Verbal)

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The only Clemson stuff I see him retweeting is from some dumb redneck who can't even use proper grammar that tweets every recruit. He is actually worse than Fister. I didn't think that was possible.

Steady on brah!
 

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Are we surprised? We have no DC. We are dragging our feet during the most crucial time of recruiting. It's like the dragging out process with Kelly last January. It hurts the program.

no in-person recruiting can take place from Dec. 16 through Jan. 15 -- a month-long period that occurs during bowl season.

However, coaching vacancies cause alarm for recruits and parents of recruits. Does quiet mean we can't announce a DC?

Read a report on ISD that there will be no official release until after the holidays because ND's administration office is closed. Sometimes there's more to it then what's on the surface.

Not sure why you'd think Kelly would intentionally hurt the program. Hes a smart coach that is a canidate for NFL vacancies as well as Texas. He clearly knows what he's doing.

Soooo how exactly is the staff dragging its feet, tko? Why does everyone always feel the need to blame someone for everything? It has been well documented that the kid likes Clemson, hence his visit earlier in the year. Was the staff dragging its feet then as well? lol, step back my friend. You'll love longer.
 

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no in-person recruiting can take place from Dec. 16 through Jan. 15 -- a month-long period that occurs during bowl season.

That's what I thought, so I don't see where we are dragging our feet.

He's already an ND verbal, so it's not like we trying to play catch up with him. Plus if he's balancing between ND & Clemson with his tweets or clothes he's wearing, maybe he's just having a little fun.
 

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Soooo how exactly is the staff dragging its feet, tko? Why does everyone always feel the need to blame someone for everything? It has been well documented that the kid likes Clemson, hence his visit earlier in the year. Was the staff dragging its feet then as well?

because ND. I think we're all a bit excitable and prone to getting worked up. It's in our nature as fanatics.



lol, step back my friend. You'll love longer.

Did this just turn into a male enhancement ad?......tell me moar!
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Richard Yeargin III is running with the 1s at OLB. Looks pretty athletic.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/statuses/418108725023342592">December 31, 2013</a></blockquote>
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From ISD:

Recruiting Week in Review

Yeargin said:
When I committed to Notre Dame I was pretty confident in my decision,” Yeargin shared. “(Notre Dame) exemplified everything that I stand for as a young man. I cherish God, I cherish my family and I cherish my education as well as playing football at its highest level. I felt like Notre Dame cherished those things as well.

Plans to come for the spring game.

Had a good time with Nelson and Weisher at the US All-American Game. He really likes them and thinks they are easy to talk to and "cool"

Also says he was very disappointed to see Diaco go, but is impressed that van Gorder has spent time in the NFL and is excited to work with him.
 

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I hope he sticks, nothing has come up about him which is awesome, but I like this kid's "potential." He was all over the field during the AA game.
 

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Retweeting a lot of Clemson fans today.

Yeah, his buddy is still recruiting him to Clemson pretty hard. Not sure how hard Clemson's staff is pursuing him right now. Was definitely looking around very hard before ND's staff got him to "shut it down" on taking more visits. With coaching changes you never know which way things are going to turn.

Honestly, not worried at all whether he's a part of the class or isn't. Unlike Dickerson, who was at a position of dire need, Yeargin is definitely not and he's not a premium player either. Would trade him in a heartbeat for a DT... but of course we're scraping just to put names on the board there.
 
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Yeah, his buddy is still recruiting him to Clemson pretty hard. Not sure how hard Clemson's staff is pursuing him right now. Was definitely looking around very hard before ND's staff got him to "shut it down" on taking more visits. With coaching changes you never know which way things are going to turn.

Honestly, not worried at all whether he's a part of the class or isn't. Unlike Dickerson, who was at a position of dire need, Yeargin is definitely not and he's not a premium player either. Would trade him in a heartbeat for a DT... but of course we're scraping just to put names on the board there.

I think Yeargin is possibly the best all around athlete in the class. He seems really fast for his size. When's the last time we've had a legit 6'3", maybe 6'4" guy who can move like him?

FWIW, I don't follow him on twitter, but I've checked his profile a couple of times. Noticed he's stripped away all ND related stuff on his home page. For instance, it used to say 'FL (plane graphic to) South Bend'. I think at one time it also had something like 'ND football recruit' or something like that on his 'profile bio'.
 
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I think Yeargin is possibly the best all around athlete in the class. He seems really fast for his size. When's the last time we've had a legit 6'3", maybe 6'4" guy who can move like him?

FWIW, I don't follow him on twitter, but I've checked his profile a couple of times. Noticed he's stripped away all ND related stuff on his home page. For instance, it used to say 'FL (plane graphic to) South Bend'. I think at one time it also had something like 'ND football recruit' or something like that on his 'profile bio'.

Jaylon Smith begs to differ with you on this......
 
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Jaylon Smith begs to differ with you on this......

Right, and wouldn't want want everyone with near-Smith-esque size/speed? But Jaylon much faster than Yeargin, I admit that.

My biggest complaint (and IDK if it's Longo, Diaco, or a combination) of the defense is how ridiculously slow our LBs have been. Carlo Calabrese, Kendall Moore, Dan Fox, Jarret Grace, even Ben Coucell to a lesser degree are brutal to watch in any open space.
 
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I think Yeargin is possibly the best all around athlete in the class. He seems really fast for his size. When's the last time we've had a legit 6'3", maybe 6'4" guy who can move like him?

First of all, he's 6'3". That's what he has a verified measurement at without shoes, and I haven't seen a verified report of him growing sizeably over the past 6 months.

We have tons of people bigger than him who move as well as he does both on our roster and in this incoming class. He's a 5.0 40-yard dash guy who's about the size of Jaylon Smith... soooo...........

In this class, Trumbetti is much bigger and also much more athletic. So is Blankenship. So is Luatua. So is Weishar. So is Williams. Then if you start looking at guys who are an inch or so shorter, there are tons more.

He's nowhere close to being the "best all-around athlete" and that's not opinion. It's fact. Look at his Sparq score at The Opening... it was an 89. Brent scored a 121.

FWIW, I don't follow him on twitter, but I've checked his profile a couple of times. Noticed he's stripped away all ND related stuff on his home page. For instance, it used to say 'FL (plane graphic to) South Bend'. I think at one time it also had something like 'ND football recruit' or something like that on his 'profile bio'.

Yeah, I thought he was going to flip, then I thought he was going to probably stick, and now I'm really leaning back towards him flipping if Clemson wants him. Was surprised we even took someone from the University School to begin with, and especially someone who only committed to us because he was a non-take at the school he actually wanted to commit to.
 

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First of all, he's 6'3". That's what he has a verified measurement at without shoes, and I haven't seen a verified report of him growing sizeably over the past 6 months.

We have tons of people bigger than him who move as well as he does both on our roster and in this incoming class. He's a 5.0 40-yard dash guy who's about the size of Jaylon Smith... soooo...........

In this class, Trumbetti is much bigger and also much more athletic. So is Blankenship. So is Luatua. So is Weishar. So is Williams. Then if you start looking at guys who are an inch or so shorter, there are tons more.

He's nowhere close to being the "best all-around athlete" and that's not opinion. It's fact. Look at his Sparq score at The Opening... it was an 89. Brent scored a 121.



Yeah, I thought he was going to flip, then I thought he was going to probably stick, and now I'm really leaning back towards him flipping if Clemson wants him. Was surprised we even took someone from the University School to begin with, and especially someone who only committed to us because he was a non-take at the school he actually wanted to commit to.

Wow...that analysis was quite eye-opening. The removal of ND propaganda from his twitter activity says it all IMO.
 
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First of all, he's 6'3". That's what he has a verified measurement at without shoes, and I haven't seen a verified report of him growing sizeably over the past 6 months.

We have tons of people bigger than him who move as well as he does both on our roster and in this incoming class. He's a 5.0 40-yard dash guy who's about the size of Jaylon Smith... soooo...........

In this class, Trumbetti is much bigger and also much more athletic. So is Blankenship. So is Luatua. So is Weishar. So is Williams. Then if you start looking at guys who are an inch or so shorter, there are tons more.

He's nowhere close to being the "best all-around athlete" and that's not opinion. It's fact. Look at his Sparq score at The Opening... it was an 89. Brent scored a 121.



Yeah, I thought he was going to flip, then I thought he was going to probably stick, and now I'm really leaning back towards him flipping if Clemson wants him.
Was surprised we even took someone from the University School to begin with, and especially someone who only committed to us because he was a non-take at the school he actually wanted to commit to.

Without shoes, that's pretty good height for LB. Most kids that come in, say, listing 6'2", we find out are closer to 6'0".

Trumbetti is a good one, and you're probably right.

Although Williams would win in a 40, I don't consider him 'more athletic' than Yeargin. First off, Yeargin seems much stronger in his film IMO. Also, Yeargin seems to move really well in space, side to side, and I personally doubt Yeargin's 40 is accurate. Based on watching his film, I bet he could run faster than 5.0.

When they toss all of these kids into a weekend event with not much experience/coaching in 'how to maximize your 40', there can be some big discrepancies among players, especially when some players know track/starting and some just go run as fast as they can... In all actuality they can be just as fast/faster than someone with a close or even better score. Sure, this theory may not apply to Yeargin and maybe he is 'coached up' in 40s, but given my opinion on how he looks pretty damn fast, and the fact that he returned a 5.0 at the Sparq, I'd guess that he can do better than that.

*I'm basing my 'Yeargin is uber-athletic' based on how he stands out on film and considering his competition is as good as it gets*, so no sense in splitting hairs. Given the Sparq data, I don't have an argument against you, so just wanted to make that clear.


I mean, I hope he sticks for more reasons than 1!
 
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I have a very high opinion of Yeargin and think his versatility makes him a huge get. He had a monster senior season. With that said I do understand Lax's point in that he doesn't fit into a specific need right now.
 
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This Yeargin topic is a sensitive subject for me on many levels (looming bet, how good he is) but none more highlighted than the fact that the Yeargin discussion is where we lost IrishPat183!

For the record Lax, I think you're both crazy, and my opinion sits between you and Pat's. He's no Mario Williams, but he's a lot better than you're giving him credit for.

#RIPPat #FreePat

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Without shoes, that's pretty good height for LB. Most kids that come in, say, listing 6'2", we find out are closer to 6'0".

Trumbetti is a good one, and you're probably right.

Although Williams would win in a 40, I don't consider him 'more athletic' than Yeargin. First off, Yeargin seems much stronger in his film IMO. Also, Yeargin seems to move really well in space, side to side, and I personally doubt Yeargin's 40 is accurate. Based on watching his film, I bet he could run faster than 5.0.

He is one of the few guys with an accurate 40, as he ran it at combines and The Opening. He's a 4.9-5.0 guy.

When they toss all of these kids into a weekend event with not much experience/coaching in 'how to maximize your 40', there can be some big discrepancies among players, especially when some players know track/starting and some just go run as fast as they can... In all actuality they can be just as fast/faster than someone with a close or even better score. Sure, this theory may not apply to Yeargin and maybe he is 'coached up' in 40s, but given my opinion on how he looks pretty damn fast, and the fact that he returned a 5.0 at the Sparq, I'd guess that he can do better than that.

This is a good point, that kids with track experience can run 40s that are fast and don't reflect their football speed, whereas kids without that training may play MUCH faster than their 40. In Yeargin's case, he has a great first step.

*I'm basing my 'Yeargin is uber-athletic' based on how he stands out on film and considering his competition is as good as it gets*, so no sense in splitting hairs. Given the Sparq data, I don't have an argument against you, so just wanted to make that clear.

I mean, I hope he sticks for more reasons than 1!

Like Lucky said, his main asset is his versatility. That's one thing I really loved about the commit when we got it. He can play inside or outside in a 3-4. He can play SAM in a 4-3, and could also play rush DE if he can get up north 245. If we hadn't landed Sykes + Morgan and were looking at sticking with Diaco's 3-4 I would consider him a vital piece for the versatility. But we really did a great job of addressing depth concerns, so I view him as expendable. I think we can get a comparable player in 2015 if push comes to shove.
 

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I should also note that there a lot of people who love Yeargin. TP thinks he's great. So good-vs-not-good is just all speculative individual opinion. Athletic-vs-not-athletic and dire-need-vs-luxury are more objective discussions to have where people can present opinions/evidence from multiple angles that leads to substantive discussion.
 

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Like Lucky said, his main asset is his versatility. That's one thing I really loved about the commit when we got it. He can play inside or outside in a 3-4. He can play SAM in a 4-3, and could also play rush DE if he can get up north 245. If we hadn't landed Sykes + Morgan and were looking at sticking with Diaco's 3-4 I would consider him a vital piece for the versatility. But we really did a great job of addressing depth concerns, so I view him as expendable. I think we can get a comparable player in 2015 if push comes to shove.

I agree with all this, but I also think that holding on to talented players, even if you don't seem to need them at the time, is how you build depth. You lose Yeargin here and miss on another LB there and before you know it your only experienced LB is a 5th-year senior who has never played significant game snaps (not really how we got into our current ILB situation, but kind of ... our depth chart would look a little different if we had taken a shot at Joe Bolden and kept Anzalone in last year's class). That's kind of going off on a tangent; I guess my point is just that while I agree that he is hardly the most important guy in the class at this point, I still really hope he sticks with ND.
 

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I have a very high opinion of Yeargin and think his versatility makes him a huge get. He had a monster senior season. With that said I do understand Lax's point in that he doesn't fit into a specific need right now.

He is a stud LB recruit! Whether he plays day 1 doesn't matter. He is a damn good athlete at LB, something we have sorely lacked aside from a few guys here and there.
I get that people are trying to ease the pain of a possible decommitment, but anyone downplaying his value to this class is being ridiculous!

That being, let's not melt down and let this play out.
 
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