Upshot for the Rest of the Class (2014 Edition)

[stlnd01]

How many DL/DTs can we fit on the roster? Like 5? I want all of them.

 

[stlnd01]

Evaluating another new DT, Edgar Cerenord who is a teammate of McKensie. Pretty good offer list and he was excited to talk to the staff last night.

Composite three star. Best offers are Miami and Tennessee. OVs planned to Tulane, Purdue, Duke (good sign). Certainly worth a look.

 

[Ironman8]

We're like 24 short of a full class

Love gloom and doom gross exaggerations.

Most reports say we would take 2 DTs if the staff liked them both. I hope we land Griffin and Sawyers personally.

 

[Old Man Mike]

the following year is scholarship light, I believe. It wouldn't be completely tragic to save a couple of scholarships [unless we really have studs to sign]. Our current depth chart [assuming keeping the commits] is pretty three-deep good.

 

[DillonHall]

the following year is scholarship light, I believe. It wouldn't be completely tragic to save a couple of scholarships [unless we really have studs to sign]. Our current depth chart [assuming keeping the commits] is pretty three-deep good.

It seems like we say this year after year

 

[irish o'phile]

I feel like we shot our shot and there is no up left.

 

[woolybug25]

We can't keep putting 75-80 guy rosters out every year. It's not "doom and gloom" if it's true. Have we ever fielded a fall roster with 85 guys?

Our best case scenario right now is about 82 guys by NSD. At that point, we have to hope that all end up enrolling, no one gets hurt and no on transfers.

Anybody see that happening?

 

[irish o'phile]

We also have a couple/few preferred walk ons, right? One is a DT. At least they are bodies for practice etc. We need depth on the d-line though. It will be rough once the injuries start. The staff needs to figure out how to get some DTs. I just can't understand how early playing time at ND would not be enough of a selling point.

 

[gkIrish]

We can't keep putting 75-80 guy rosters out every year. It's not "doom and gloom" if it's true. Have we ever fielded a fall roster with 85 guys?

Our best case scenario right now is about 82 guys by NSD. At that point, we have to hope that all end up enrolling, no one gets hurt and no on transfers.

Anybody see that happening?

Thank you. If it happens one year, it's a fluke. Two years, it's a trend. Three years, it's a problem.

 

[Ironman8]

We can't keep putting 75-80 guy rosters out every year. It's not "doom and gloom" if it's true. Have we ever fielded a fall roster with 85 guys?

Our best case scenario right now is about 82 guys by NSD. At that point, we have to hope that all end up enrolling, no one gets hurt and no on transfers.

Anybody see that happening?

'24 short of a full class' is not true. Thus, I labeled it a doom and gloom gross exaggeration.

Have we been short on the 85 historically, and is there a very good chance we do it again this year? Yeah, and it sucks. Everyone wishes we were at 85 - I am sure BK and staff most of all. But there is no need to go overboard.

 

[gkIrish]

'24 short of a full class' is not true. Thus, I labeled it a doom and gloom gross exaggeration.

No one but our early enrollees has signed the dotted line yet. That's why I said 24 short. Might be off by a couple. Stop spinning my words.

 

[Domina Nostra]

'24 short of a full class' is not true. Thus, I labeled it a doom and gloom gross exaggeration.

Have we been short on the 85 historically, and is there a very good chance we do it again this year? Yeah, and it sucks. Everyone wishes we were at 85 - I am sure BK and staff most of all. But there is no need to go overboard.

This is what I think. We did get to the NC last year. It's better to have 85, but no where close to 85 guys contribute. Alabama has a roster full of QBs and no clue if any of them are any good.

 

[Ironman8]

No one but our early enrollees has signed the dotted line yet. That's why I said 24 short. Might be off by a couple. Stop spinning my words.

How is it considered 'spinning your words' by quoting you verbatim?

 

[NDinL.A.]

You guys would be surprised how few schools actually get to 85 schollies to start a year. Hell, Pete Carroll was routinely in the 70's and very low 80's when fall camp started (he used to then give schollies to walk-ons with 4.0 GPA's to help their API. He was no dummy). I don't have the numbers in front of me, but 80-82 players on scholarship in fall camp is nothing new for the top programs.

Now, we should be at 82-83 this year, and I'll be disappointed not to be. But it's not the end of the world if we're at 80 scholarships, it's really not IMHO.

 

[gkIrish]

How is it considered 'spinning your words' by quoting you verbatim?

What I said was 100% true and literal and you made it seem like I was exaggerating. I'm not trying to get into a childish little spat with you but you made a something out of nothing and I feel the need to defend myself.

 

[stlnd01]

You guys would be surprised how few schools actually get to 85 schollies to start a year. Hell, Pete Carroll was routinely in the 70's and very low 80's when fall camp started (he used to then give schollies to walk-ons with 4.0 GPA's to help their API. He was no dummy). I don't have the numbers in front of me, but 80-82 players on scholarship in fall camp is nothing new for the top programs.

Now, we should be at 82-83 this year, and I'll be disappointed not to be. But it's not the end of the world if we're at 80 scholarships, it's really not IMHO.

Yeah. 85 recruited scholarship players at the start of fall camp would be nice, but I don't know how any program -- aside from the worst of the oversign/grayshirt bunch - actually manages their roster that perfectly. Stuff happens to everyone. 80's fine. Keep a couple of extra fifth-years, and fill out the roster with a few walk-ons. You only have about 60 guys who are gonna contribute anyway.
And aside from defensive line, where I'd agree we're getting worrisomely thin, I don't know where we're short in the next year or two. At some positions (DB, WR, RB, OL) we've got more quality guys than can see the field. Soon some of us will be crying about transfers.

 

[koonja]

 

[Luckylucci]

Love gloom and doom gross exaggerations.

Most reports say we would take 2 DTs if the staff liked them both. I hope we land Griffin and Sawyers personally.

If we landed both I would be extremely pleased. Sawyer actually plays 3-4 DE for his HS school team so I like the versitility that he has and Griffin I think could play NT at 330 after some seasoning.

 

[Ironman8]

If we landed both I would be extremely pleased. Sawyer actually plays 3-4 DE for his HS school team so I like the versitility that he has and Griffin I think could play NT at 330 after some seasoning.

Also rumors we offered the DT from Texas, Lealaimatafao (Good luck with that Dan Hicks)

 

[IrishLax]

Also rumors we offered the DT from Texas, Lealaimatafao (Good luck with that Dan Hicks)

Craig Evans needs an offer and a late game push, IMO.

 

[woolybug25]

I hope this doesn't put LAX over the edge, but....

Not offering Hubbard seems pretty idiotic at this point...

 

[Me2SouthBend]

I hope this doesn't put LAX over the edge, but....

Not offering Hubbard seems pretty idiotic at this point...

Why is that, we short on CATs, DOGs or DE's?

 

[Me2SouthBend]

We're like 24 short of a full class

Love gloom and doom gross exaggerations.

Most reports say we would take 2 DTs if the staff liked them both. I hope we land Griffin and Sawyers personally.

No one but our early enrollees has signed the dotted line yet. That's why I said 24 short. Might be off by a couple. Stop spinning my words.

Can you explain to me where IM8 spun your words? I fail to follow your posts any differently than did IM. Do you suspect we literally will not field a class this year?

 

[woolybug25]

Why is that, we short on CATs, DOGs or DE's?

1) Any way you cut it, we have roster room and will probably add some questionable talent.
2) Hubbard isn't questionable talent, kid is a stud.
3) He can play multiple positions.
4) HE WAS ALREADY COMMITED TO ND.

Do we need more reasons?

 

[Cpnd1]

Also rumors we offered the DT from Texas, Lealaimatafao (Good luck with that Dan Hicks)

@TreyL55: Notre Dame offered! #GoldenArmy

 

[Ironman8]

@TreyL55: Notre Dame offered! #GoldenArmy

There ya go. Thanks for the tweet.

 

[BGIF]

Can you explain to me where IM8 spun your words? I fail to follow your posts any differently than did IM. Do you suspect we literally will not field a class this year?

You and IM8 weren't alone in how you read the first B.S. post nor the second.

 

[Cpnd1]

There ya go. Thanks for the tweet.

No problem, personally, I think his tape is the best of the NG that we have offered recently. Really good offers too. According to 247 offers from LSU, OU, Texas, and Oregon.

 

[gkIrish]

Can you explain to me where IM8 spun your words? I fail to follow your posts any differently than did IM. Do you suspect we literally will not field a class this year?

You and IM8 weren't alone in how you read the first B.S. post nor the second.

1. IM8 is a big boy and can fight his own battles

2. I'm obviously trolling.

 

[PANDFAN]

Also rumors we offered the DT from Texas, Lealaimatafao (Good luck with that Dan Hicks)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>RT <a href="https://twitter.com/Jake_Brown">@Jake_Brown</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a> extended an offer to San Antonio (Texas) Warren DT Trey Lealaimatafao (<a href="https://twitter.com/TreyL55">@TreyL55</a>) today. Former <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texas&src=hash">#Texas</a> commitment.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@NDatRivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDatRivals/statuses/422143557458083840">January 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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