'14 CA DL Matt Dickerson (UCLA Verbal)

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>2014 DL Matt Dickerson has decommited from Notre Dame. You will understand later, so be please be patient. Great kid.</p>— The Turning Point (@TheIrishTP) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheIrishTP/statuses/421409995654053888">January 9, 2014</a></blockquote>
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This is exactly why I try not to get too worked up about recruiting until signing day. Wake me up on Feb. 5th.
 

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This is entirely 100% Wooly's fault.



But for reals this sucks. Our second best DL commit besides Trumbetti IMO and his versatility maybe made him our most important commit

Exactly. Given the current depth chart I don't think that's an exaggeration. Well, arguably Nyles Morgan was more important, but regardless, this blows.
 
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we'll find out how strong of a commit he is if he doesn't official to ND...pretty weak to decommit during the dead period and not give our coaches a chance to talk to him. i think he'll give our staff the chance
 

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But the staff doesn't think he's going anywhere. Yeah. Ok.

Apparently Anna knew a month ago

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Dickerson's decommitment has been in the works for a while. His flip was made official today. More ($): <a href="http://t.co/FPxkHvWp5F">http://t.co/FPxkHvWp5F</a></p>— Anna Hickey (@AnnaHScout) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnnaHScout/statuses/421409292357361664">January 9, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>2014 DL Matt Dickerson has decommited from Notre Dame. You will understand later, so be please be patient. Great kid.</p>— The Turning Point (@TheIrishTP) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheIrishTP/statuses/421409995654053888">January 9, 2014</a></blockquote>
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how do we keep getting burned by this type of thing? EV, Neal, and now dickerson?
 

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This is entirely 100% on Wooly

Hahaha.... yup, he put that evil out there on the world.

I'll tell you what, Dickerson was both criminally underrated and at a position of dire need. This is a HUGE blow.

This isn't super slimy, offering package deals and whatever has always been a thing that people do, and Mora is always going to push the envelope. And I'm lead to believe he's making a decision on legitimate factors that are important to him and you can't blame someone for that. Not nearly in the same universe as the bullshit he pulled with EV including recruitment after NSD, impermissible contact, and concocting a whole plan to get EV out of his LOI without any penalties... which he guaranteed to EVE would work, and then he followed through on it.

Either way, I fucking hate that guy and hope he eventually gets what's coming. I don't even know if he's a step up from Kiffin on the slimy scale. He gives zero shits about rules and hopefully he leaves for NFL/wherever sooner rather than later.

Finally, there is a serious case to be made for not recruiting Cali. About 80% of the prospects we gain commitments from in that state either flake out on campus, decommit, or bust.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>2014 DL Matt Dickerson has decommited from Notre Dame. You will understand later, so be please be patient. Great kid.</p>— The Turning Point (@TheIrishTP) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheIrishTP/statuses/421409995654053888">January 9, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Sounds like maybe there really are extenuating "family circumstances" here.


Also, Loy is saying that there's an interesting story here and he is writing something up now.
 
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Finally, there is a serious case to be made for not recruiting Cali. About 80% of the prospects we gain commitments from in that state either flake out on campus, decommit, or bust.

^This. Absolutely. Having lived in California on and off throughout my life, it takes a very special kid AND family to go the Notre Dame route. You have to be about it in a way like no other, because you are sacrificing major comforts/familiarities that are unique to the West coast that can make the distance excruciating at times. It's more than just a business decision, you have to want it as your home.

This is recruiting, my friends. The ups and downs will NEVER end.

That's why my philosophy has evolved: you are only Notre Dame once you wear that helmet proudly. A verbal commitment means nothing. A signed letter of intent means nothing. A ND career of hard-fought battles on and off the field is the only thing that matters.
 
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...Finally, there is a serious case to be made for not recruiting Cali. About 80% of the prospects we gain commitments from in that state either flake out on campus, decommit, or bust.

Can we wait until we get Barnett first? Then close up shop?
 

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Mora is obviously poisoning the family members of our most important d-line recruits in attempts to keep them closer to home...Once I have proof, it'll be dealt with, dexter style

Seriously though, fuck that man...
 

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Can we wait until we get Barnett first? Then close up shop?

Ha I agree, seems to be always something with these California kids. Man every off-season it seems we have to go through something like this. It comes in three, Dickerson, DD suspension, what next IM not qualifying or DE-committing and going to Florida, I'm kidding.....Kinda
 

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I could give two shits what the reason is, honestly. I thought Matt was a fantastic kid and the potential to be a very good ball player but if he honestly believes its in his best interest to go play for that dip shit at UCLA then I could care less.
 

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I'm REALLY curious to hear what the story behind this is. Because if it's something I could be sympathetic to, why has it "been in the works" for a while?
 

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I could give two shits what the reason is, honestly. I thought Matt was a fantastic kid and the potential to be a very good ball player but if he honestly believes its in his best interest to go play for that dip shit at UCLA then I could care less.

Hell yea!!!
 

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No real story from Loy other than Dickerson has been telling the staff even as recently as this week that he wanted to be at ND he just needed to work things out with his family. Loy said that this is the first time that he feels a kid was dishonest with the staff. Personal opinion, smells like some EV bullshit brought to our doorstep from another flaky cali Dlineman and Jim Mora. We just got punked IE.
 

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I could give two shits what the reason is, honestly. I thought Matt was a fantastic kid and the potential to be a very good ball player but if he honestly believes its in his best interest to go play for that dip shit at UCLA then I could care less.

haha grow up

you sound like an angry kid
 

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Wow just wow is all I'm going to say after reading Toms new article about him
 

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Maybe we should stay out of CA...these recruits, and some players, aren't working out lately.

Not going to bash Matt. If he has a legitimate reason to switch, he's a decent guy. Kinda sucks losing a second big guy to UCLA though. Is there no one who plays DT that would like immediate playing time on a big stage?
 

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No real story from Loy other than Dickerson has been telling the staff even as recently as this week that he wanted to be at ND he just needed to work things out with his family. Loy said that this is the first time that he feels a kid was dishonest with the staff. Personal opinion, smells like some EV bullshit brought to our doorstep from another flaky cali Dlineman and Jim Mora. We just got punked IE.


dishonest with the staff...I hope he means in terms of this cycle.
 
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Mora is a good recruiter. Flat out.

What can we expect, there has been a lot of negative baggage around us since the day after the National Championship to now. Too much for a lot to overcome??

We lost our D-Coor, lost Eddie V with some bad blood, academic suspensions, suspended another Cali kid before a bowl game and he bolts to the NFL, we have guys leaving early to the NFL and transferring (Some good things here too)---this leads to negative recruiting by all of these other coaches. It won't stop. We will lose more. Too bad.

So much fun positivity with Nyles last weekend. Hope we can get more to replace.
 

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I'm very confident that this doesn't reek like the EV situation does...However, why not Cal or Stanford? were offers not extended his way from either of those schools...He's literally 20 mins from Palo Alto, and 41 mins from Berkeley...Meaning he could literally live at home if he wanted to. Both offer a good education and are even closer to home...only thing about cal is that they suck....
 
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No real story from Loy other than Dickerson has been telling the staff even as recently as this week that he wanted to be at ND he just needed to work things out with his family. Loy said that this is the first time that he feels a kid was dishonest with the staff. Personal opinion, smells like some EV bullshit brought to our doorstep from another flaky cali Dlineman and Jim Mora. We just got punked IE.

Well this seems to directly contradict TPs tweet about him being a great kid. Someone is misinformed. Probably Loy lol
 

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Oh, and this is the second time having to post this today

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I'm very confident that this doesn't reek like the EV situation does...However, why not Cal or Stanford? were offers not extended his way from those...He's literally 20 mins from Palo Alto, and 41 mins from Berkeley...Both offer a good education and are even closer to home...only thing about cal is that they suck....

Cal is not the same academic institution when it comes to the football program, and i dont believe he has a Stanford offer... plus UKKLUH i giving his sister a track scholarship or something
 
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