'11 IL WR DaVaris Daniels (Signed Notre Dame LOI)

[OCIrish]

I'd seen over on II that its probation, and will be fine to play next year, don't know if that really is the case, hopefully we'll k ow soon!!

 

[EuropeanDomer]

If he declares, it would be a huge mistake. More than GAIII, who maybe can be a return specialist, DD would be undrafted, especially with all the underclassmen at his position entering the draft. If he stays, next year he probably can be a mid rounder.

 

[koonja]

This could be good for him and the football team. Well all see what getting away from Longo can do for you (see, Golson). Now DD can get onto a more progressive program and his own S/C coach for 6 months, and come back running a 4.4, look like David Boston, breathing fire, and saving lives .

 

[PANDFAN]

If he declares, it would be a huge mistake. More than GAIII, who maybe can be a return specialist, DD would be undrafted, especially with all the underclassmen at his position entering the draft. If he stays, next year he probably can be a mid rounder.

THIS! he is going to be the focal point of our offense...BK has done it every year he has been there in having a target....this year is DD's

 

[ulukinatme]

DD definitely stands to make more money at the next level if he comes back. He was Golson's go to guy as the 2012 season went on. I would guess that he would continue to be his go to guy in 2014. He could really elevate his stock next season.

 

[ThePiombino]

I'm so sick of this shit. Even if it's just a semester suspension, that's an entire semester that he and EG AREN'T working on their chemistry together. FCUK!!!

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

If it's only the spring semester then it's not a big deal. We already had to deal with something similar with Floyd. As long as he doesn't miss games.

 

[Riddickulous]

This past year has been terrible. Please God make it stop.

 

[Brooklyn]

This draft is very very deep at WR. Would be a huge mistake coming out.

 

[jerboski]

Wouldn't be a ND offseason without some drama, every freaking year it seems.

 

[L-cart ND-ana]

Lets say for arguments sake it is academics and he is suspended or whatever.... How would that affect future recruiting, like.... say... with a guy like McKenzie? 2 big academic issues for a football program that prides itself in academics might irritate a few people in admissions and destroy future leniency for awhile.

 

[tdbaum1]

If he declares, it would be a huge mistake. More than GAIII, who maybe can be a return specialist, DD would be undrafted, especially with all the underclassmen at his position entering the draft. If he stays, next year he probably can be a mid rounder.

Agree 100%. THe difference is that GAIII's stock is about as high as it's going to get. DD's stock is only going to get higher after next year. IMO.

 

[gkIrish]

I truly think this is one of those situations where you could make an argument either way for going to the draft or staying.

On the one hand you have Golson coming back and you are the clear #1 target next year. Chance to be drafted in the 2nd-3rd round.

On the other hand, if he declares now he avoids a lot of the bad press and stigma attached with being suspended. Will still get drafted in the 5th-6th round and WR is one of the easiest positions to get early PT in the NFL.

I'm disappointed that he put himself in this situation but I would understand if he left.

 

[ulukinatme]

On the other hand, if he declares now he avoids a lot of the bad press and stigma attached with being suspended. Will still get drafted in the 5th-6th round and WR is one of the easiest positions to get early PT in the NFL.

I disagree. He would probably get some bad press for the suspension, but it probably wouldn't be as hot as Golson since he's not the QB and we're not coming off a great season like last year. I don't think he would have any lasting stigma from something like this if it's true. I mean, Floyd had a DUI before his senior season and he was still taken with the 12th pick. No, DD doesn't gain anything by declaring now. He'll stand to lose a lot of money and draft stock. If I was him, knowing how much attention I would garner next season as the #1 target for Golson, I would stick around.

 

[ResLife Hero]

I disagree. He would probably get some bad press for the suspension, but it probably wouldn't be as hot as Golson since he's not the QB and we're not coming off a great season like last year. I don't think he would have any lasting stigma from something like this if it's true. I mean, Floyd had a DUI before his senior season and he was still taken with the 12th pick. No, DD doesn't gain anything by declaring now. He'll stand to lose a lot of money and draft stock. If I was him, knowing how much attention I would garner next season as the #1 target for Golson, I would stick around.

Plus being bad at school carries way less stigma than cheating/arrests/impermissable benefits. There's no red flags being thrown for lack of "book smarts".

 

[Brooklyn]

I truly think this is one of those situations where you could make an argument either way for going to the draft or staying.

On the one hand you have Golson coming back and you are the clear #1 target next year. Chance to be drafted in the 2nd-3rd round.

On the other hand, if he declares now he avoids a lot of the bad press and stigma attached with being suspended. Will still get drafted in the 5th-6th round and WR is one of the easiest positions to get early PT in the NFL.

I'm disappointed that he put himself in this situation but I would understand if he left.

I agree with the ranges you have him in if he comes back or declares, but the main difference is that if he does declare he doesn't get any guaranteed money. Thats a major factor. Its the difference in being on a team for a few years without producing much to being cut and out of the NFL in an offseason.

 

[Henges24]

Plus being bad at school carries way less stigma than cheating/arrests/impermissable benefits. There's no red flags being thrown for lack of "book smarts".

^ This ^

 

[gkIrish]

I agree with the ranges you have him in if he comes back or declares, but the main difference is that if he does declare he doesn't get any guaranteed money. Thats a major factor. Its the difference in being on a team for a few years without producing much to being cut and out of the NFL in an offseason.

But you also have to factor in the possibility of being injured or just not performing that well. In those scenarios, he still doesn't get guaranteed money next year. But he would presumably have his degree so there's that.

I was a big advocate of Cierre staying another year because he needed to mature more and I was right about that. Davaris situation isn't really the same.

 

[IrishLax]

But you also have to factor in the possibility of being injured or just not performing that well. In those scenarios, he still doesn't get guaranteed money next year. But he would presumably have his degree so there's that.

I was a big advocate of Cierre staying another year because he needed to mature more and I was right about that. Davaris situation isn't really the same.

Here's how I look at this.

Right now, Daniels probably doesn't get drafted. If he does, it's someone taking a very late flier on him. So basically, there is no value whatsoever to coming out this year. None. He could get hurt next year and miss the season (which, let's be serious, is a risk that literally every player takes every year) and his draft stock wouldn't be impacted... because he has no draft stock right now. This is different than GAIII, whose hand was forced a bit by being in a Darron Thomas like situation.

If he DOES come back next year and plays with Golson, he could potentially put up a monster season and work himself into a top draft pick. There is tons of upside to the decision to come back. So to rehash, IMO, I see no upside to leaving right now, and considerable upside to playing another year. Ergo, there is only one correct decision.

 

[Luckylucci]

I think he's gone, if DeAndra Hopkins can go in 1st round so can DD.

This convo reminds me of some of these gems after the Purdue game. So, considering this guy said that hands down Davaris was a first rounder he should definitely go in the draft.

 

[gkIrish]

I'm confident Davaris would get drafted this year. I hope you're not reading this Davaris.

 

[IrishLax]

I'm confident Davaris would get drafted this year. I hope you're not reading this Davaris.

No chance before the third day. I can see him potentially latching on as a 6th or 7th round pick for some team. But that's his absolute ceiling.

 

[Ironman8]

No chance before the third day. I can see him potentially latching on as a 6th or 7th round pick for some team. But that's his absolute ceiling.

Agreed, especially since this is such a deep and loaded draft for WRs.

 

[gkIrish]

No chance before the third day. I can see him potentially latching on as a 6th or 7th round pick for some team. But that's his absolute ceiling.

I basically agree. Late 5th or later IMO. Most likely mid to late 6th. I've watched almost every minute of the last 5 drafts and IIRC WRs just fly off the board starting in the 5th round. Lot of guys with less talent than DD.

 

[IrishLax]

Agreed, especially since this is such a deep and loaded draft for WRs.

Yeah, if you assume roughly 230 NFL draft picks and look at where people are projected right now and how that lines up with positional rankings, DaVaris likely goes in the 7th round. He has the physical tools to maybe go a bit higher than that, but he also has the body of work to go completely undrafted if no one likes how he works out.

 

[GoIrish41]

Not saying that DD is dumb, but blowing your shot at a strong senior year when your best early shot at the NFL is to be a very low-round draft pick with the ability to substantially improve that position is, well, dumb. Hope none of this is true. He was supposed to be the man next year.

 

[ND NYC]

i doubt DD leaves on his own accord (his decison).

if he does, its because ND didnt want to or couldnt keep him here (not his decision).

 

[GoIrish41]

i doubt DD leaves on his own accord (his decison).

if he does, its because ND didnt want to or couldnt keep him here (not his decision).

either way, he is blowing his shot if this is true.

 

[Cackalacky]

I think I remember his dad being all po'd after the AF game.... Did we ever figure out what that was? Just curious if there was a falling out this year.

 

[tko]

I think I remember his dad being all po'd after the AF game.... Did we ever figure out what that was? Just curious if there was a falling out this year.

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