'14 TX DB Payton Hendrix (Texas Tech Verbal)

[JD Irish]

DB is a major need in the 2015 class.

 

[irishtrooper]

Mark it... We miss on Juju and this will be a bad strategic move by the staff. Not the first time this type of move backfired on us either.[/QUOTE]

Please explain. I get the Juju part, but I am not able to recall the backfire. I am not trying indicate inaccuracy, just cannot recall

 

[NDPhilly]

I wouldn't mind revisiting Darius West. I think that kid is gonna be a beast.

 

[Irish8248]

We are literally stacked at Safety.. How is this a backfire? Unless the kid is a surefire AA, its not abackfire

 

[Emcee77]

'14 TX DB Payton Hendrix (Texas Tech Verbal)

Isn't it possible that he is just saving a spot somewhere while he waits to see if a spot opens up in our class, same as Erik Brown?

Either way I'm not worried. Either we get Juju or else we just have an incentive to keep Tranquill light and trim. I'd love to get Hendrix, but I won't sweat it if he wants to go elsewhere.

 

[NDPhilly]

Personally I don't really see a difference between him and Tranquill as Strong Safetys. If anything Tranquill has better ball skills.

 

[irishff1014]

I perosnal would be surprised if JuJu came to ND. But with the log jam at saftey does it really matter other then hurting his feelings?

 

[GBdomer]

A lot of you seem to think JuJu might be coming

 

[tko]

A lot of you seem to think JuJu might be coming

I'm sorry, I feel Juju is about a 5% chance of coming to ND. Why are people so optimistic?

 

[Irish#1]

There is always more to these things that meet the eyes. I personally would have taken him, bc he fits a build that could turn into a DOG LB pretty easy, but at the sametime, where do you get him PT at Dog. I think Baratti is on a good schedule, and he gets a 5th year. That changes the numbers chart a little bit as he was on schedule to play 4 years at this time last year. ND is the favorite to land Morgan. Does that give Tranquill a shot at Safety or Dog first? Do they feel comfortable with Hardy/Shumate/Baratti/Redfield/Farley to go ahead and go all in for JuJu?

There are many different situations to tell a player to hold off. I think it was just one of those bad timing things, coupled with so so Senior film. I do think that ND would have accepted his commitment if he tried to after the usc game. Recruiting is a momentum game as much as the game on the field. I think that is why ND stayed out of declining they didnt fully take McKenzie for so long. I have a feeling they were aware he was going to pop Friday before the usc game, and hoped that would steamroll some other commitments. Like I have said in the past, that usc weekend wasnt exactly a weekend where they expected to get verbals vs getting these kids a first hand experience of what ND has to offer.

I don't agree with you on feelings being hurt, regardless of how it is handled. I do agree with you on the variables and how everything is handled. We aren't privy to those comments and decisions made by the staff, so all we discuss is based of speculation, sources and rumors. This situation was quite similar to this one. I can remember my son being told a school wanted him, so he scheduled a visit. After we visited, I came away wondering why we were there wasting time. It was basically, yeah we like you, but we're not sure. My son decided at that time he wasn't going there regardless.

 

[woolybug25]

We are literally stacked at Safety.. How is this a backfire? Unless the kid is a surefire AA, its not abackfire

So missing on a kid because of leaked info is only a backfire if the kid is a surefire AA? Is there even such thing as a "sure fire AA" anymore?

The fact is that the staff wants another safety, hence them still pursuing JuJu and telling Hendrix that he was up next. So if we end up missing on both (which I think is likely now), this backfired on the coaches.

 

[woolybug25]

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[GoldenIsThyFame]

'14 TX DB Payton Hendrix (Texas Tech Verbal)

Loy said what everyone else has been saying, Hendrix tried to commit, staff said wait. A little time passes and he was ready to end the process and we said no thanks. Said things could change but doesn't see it with limited spots left. The staff wanted to hold out for guys higher on the board.... And they still think we still have a great shot at JuJu... I just don't see it.

 

[Irish8248]

So missing on a kid because of leaked info is only a backfire if the kid is a surefire AA? Is there even such thing as a "sure fire AA" anymore?

The fact is that the staff wants another safety, hence them still pursuing JuJu and telling Hendrix that he was up next. So if we end up missing on both (which I think is likely now), this backfired on the coaches.

Or ... There isn't a need at Safety and they are Ok with selling out for a rare talent. We've taken plan B at other positions with less depth. Our Safety position is stacked therefore Coaches can be picky

 

[tko]

Loy said what everyone else has been saying, Hendrix tried to commit, staff said wait. A little time passes and he was ready to end the process and we said no thanks. Said things could change but doesn't see it with limited spots left. The staff wanted to hold out for guys higher on the board.... And they still think we still have a great shot at JuJu... I just don't see it.

Eggs on faces in February but whatever. The staff is closer to this than we will ever be.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Eggs on faces in February but whatever. The staff is closer to this than we will ever be.

Agree with everything said.


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[NDdomer2]

Or ... There isn't a need at Safety and they are Ok with selling out for a rare talent. We've taken plan B at other positions with less depth. Our Safety position is stacked therefore Coaches can be picky

Was there a signifcant need for another DL when we had Day on board and Schutt wanted in? not really but bet your ass we could use him now.....

 

[pkt77242]

Was there a signifcant need for another DL when we had Day on board and Schutt wanted in? not really but bet your ass we could use him now.....

I think you just gave Wooly nightmare flashbacks by bringing up Schutt.

 

[ThePiombino]

Was there a signifcant need for another DL when we had Day on board and Schutt wanted in? not really but bet your ass we could use him now.....

Very real statement right here.

 

[Irish8248]

Was there a signifcant need for another DL when we had Day on board and Schutt wanted in? not really but bet your ass we could use him now.....

Huge difference when one person plays your position compared to three and a deep rotational philosophy

 

[GBdomer]

I'm sorry, I feel Juju is about a 5% chance of coming to ND. Why are people so optimistic?

That's a soft 5. I think it's 1%

 

[Irish8248]

You don't sign 5 QBs because they're the top 5 overall in the nation

 

[woolybug25]

Huge difference when one person plays your position compared to three and a deep rotational philosophy

In relation to recruiting, why? If anything, it should be easier to handle the recruiting situation with positions where rotating players is possible. At least at NT, you can tell a kid that only one plays at a time. In this scenario, you are saying that he isn't good enough to be included in a depth chart. Which is far more insulting.

Again... we are all aware that slow playing certain prospects are part of the game. Making it apparent to the recruiting sites, etc that a kid is a second choice is a mistake though. In this case, it certainly seems like the staff didn't protect that info from the receruiting sites, whom have no issue with screaming it from the roof tops. This made choosing someone other than ND an easy choice for Hendrix.

 

[Irishnuke]

You don't sign 5 QBs because they're the top 5 overall in the nation

Huh? I know you're trying to prove your point about holding out for a higher ranked recruit, but I fail to see how your comment does that.

Btw if the top 3 safeties in the country all wanted to commit to ND, I'm sure we'd take all 3. 5 is kinda pushing it.

 

[Irish8248]

In relation to recruiting, why? If anything, it should be easier to handle the recruiting situation with positions where rotating players is possible. At least at NT, you can tell a kid that only one plays at a time. In this scenario, you are saying that he isn't good enough to be included in a depth chart. Which is far more insulting.

Again... we are all aware that slow playing certain prospects are part of the game. Making it apparent to the recruiting sites, etc that a kid is a second choice is a mistake though. In this case, it certainly seems like the staff didn't protect that info from the receruiting sites, whom have no issue with screaming it from the roof tops. This made choosing someone other than ND an easy choice for Hendrix.

If the "backfire" is the leak -- Then Ok, maybe

If the "backfire" Is missing out on him -- Then I'm not buying it. Especially not just for the sake of more bodies. There's always a premium on big bodies

Huh? I know you're trying to prove your point about holding out for a higher ranked recruit, but I fail to see how your comment does that.

Btw if the top 3 safeties in the country all wanted to commit to ND, I'm sure we'd take all 3. 5 is kinda pushing it.

I really doubt we take 3, regardless of how good. That would be roster negligence. Off the top of my head we have 7 safeties, Lose 2, sign 3? No chance

 

[texbender]

Trust the staff have this figured out, but I hate to pass up on a guy who wants to commit. I may be prejudiced, but I love recruits from Texas. They understand the game and receive great training from an early age.

 

[NDWorld247]

With the class we already have, I'm all for passing on guys like Hendrix this year and opening up spots for 5th years and/or 2015 recruits. I hate to see a kid that wants to be at ND get turned away, but that's life. I'll be rooting for him.

 

[Emcee77]

Trust the staff have this figured out, but I hate to pass up on a guy who wants to commit. I may be prejudiced, but I love recruits from Texas. They understand the game and receive great training from an early age.

Yeah, I agree.

Some of the other gnashing of teeth ITT I don't understand though. We are stacked at safety numbers-wise, we already have a safety in this class anyway (Tranquill ... don't think he will need to play LB with Sykes, Hill and hopefully Morgan in the class) and we are in the hunt for another one, a 5-star, btw.

I understand that we always seem to regret passing on interested, talented kids, and I like Hendrix a lot, but taking him now might mean we wouldn't be able to fill a need at another position, so I think we have to wait and see if he wants to fill a spot as a best-available player late in the cycle.

 

[GBdomer]

I am just curious if you guys actually liked his film? Nothing in particular jumped out at me. Or did you guys just want to fill a body back there?

 

[Buster Bluth]

Was there a signifcant need for another DL when we had Day on board and Schutt wanted in? not really but bet your ass we could use him now.....

Wasn't he out for the year at Ohio State?