'14 KY DT Matt Elam (Kentucky Verbal)

[ulukinatme]

BK needs to get Bon Jovi on the staff

Whoooooah....we're halfway theeeeere

 

[connor_in]

So what you guys are saying is we need to have a football player parents weekend, so that all the recruits (and their parents) can meet the Bon Jovis, the Robinsons, the Hunters, etc...

 

[dublinirish]

So what you guys are saying is we need to have a football player parents weekend, so that all the recruits (and their parents) can meet the Bon Jovis, the Robinsons, the Hunters, etc...

if only there was a thread on here that listed all the ND players with famous parents..

 

[ulukinatme]

So what you guys are saying is we need to have a football player parents weekend, so that all the recruits (and their parents) can meet the Bon Jovis, the Robinsons, the Hunters, etc...

We've got each other and that's a lot
For recruiting love - we'll give it a shot

 

[connor_in]

if only there was a thread on here that listed all the ND players with famous parents..

seriously dude...I almost posted the link to that thread in my post just for reference!

 

[irishog77]

So what you guys are saying is we need to have a football player parents weekend, so that all the recruits (and their parents) can meet the Bon Jovis, the Robinsons, the Hunters, etc...

Jojo Black too.

 

[palinurus]

if only there was a thread on here that listed all the ND players with famous parents..

Somebody told me that Hanratty's dad had always wanted to play for the Irish. Too bad that didn't work out.

 

[NDPhilly]

“@FballIsLife69: Just Got Done With My In Home Visit With Notre Dame!! Great Visit With @CoachBrianKelly 😎😎😎#ND #Irish”

Wonder if they told him about Diaco

 

[aubeirish]

“@FballIsLife69: Just Got Done With My In Home Visit With Notre Dame!! Great Visit With @CoachBrianKelly 😎😎😎#ND #Irish”

Wonder if they told him about Diaco

I think loosing a position coach or obviously the head coach is more a concern than loosing the Coordinator. You can be assured that Kelly is telling them it won't change anything in what they do. The position coach is also the one that spend more time developing them through the long haul...

 

[Irish Fam]

Unfortunately, I dont see any scenario where it's a good thing.

 

[Pa Golden Tate Fan]

Per 247, He had a great talk and spending time with Kelly, Elston and Elliott. The coaches spoke with his coach and his mom. They talked about he would fit in the system and as a student athlete. Diaco leaving will have no impact on him. He didn't have a relationship with Diaco. He believes they will bring in an elite DC.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Per 247, He had a great talk and spending time with Kelly, Elston and Elliott. The coaches spoke with his coach and his mom. They talked about he would fit in the system and as a student athlete. Diaco leaving will have no impact on him. He didn't have a relationship with Diaco. He believes they will bring in an elite DC.

Who is "he" in this sentence?

Matt believes this or the guy from 247 believes this.

Thanks.

 

[Pa Golden Tate Fan]

Who is "he" in this sentence?

Matt believes this or the guy from 247 believes this.

Thanks.

Matt.

 

[Emcee77]

Ewww ...

Wiltfong just posted that he doesn't see Elam ending up at ND. He thinks if it's not Bama, it'll be UK. (He didn't explain; I think that's just his gut feeling, so tifwiw.)

 

[koonja]

Ewww ...

Wiltfong just posted that he doesn't see Elam ending up at ND. He thinks if it's not Bama, it'll be UK. (He didn't explain; I think that's just his gut feeling, so tifwiw.)

Take a lap.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Ewww ...

Wiltfong just posted that he doesn't see Elam ending up at ND. He thinks if it's not Bama, it'll be UK. (He didn't explain; I think that's just his gut feeling, so tifwiw.)

Ewww?

That's not ewww....this is ewwwww

 

[Irish Man3]

Have to agree. ND seems like a hat on the table.

 

[Emcee77]

What did I do? Was that already posted? I thought I checked but my bad if so.

 

[koonja]

What did I do? Was that already posted? I thought I checked but my bad if so.

It wasn't posted.

But I kill the messenger.

 

[Emcee77]

lol

 

[ulukinatme]

Ewww ...

Wiltfong just posted that he doesn't see Elam ending up at ND. He thinks if it's not Bama, it'll be UK. (He didn't explain; I think that's just his gut feeling, so tifwiw.)

Furk, guess it's 4-3 time. Kinda wonder if a new coordinator, whether it be internal (most likely) or not, would continue to use the 3-4 anyway.

 

[dwshade]

Furk, guess it's 4-3 time. Kinda wonder if a new coordinator, whether it be internal (most likely) or not, would continue to use the 3-4 anyway.

Why do people keep going down this 4-3 road? The 3-4 is the preferred defense of BRIAN KELLY. Any DC will be coaching Kelly's 3-4 defense. That isn't changing.

 

[rocket66]

Love me some 4-3

 

[CanadalovesND]

Why do people keep going down this 4-3 road? The 3-4 is the preferred defense of BRIAN KELLY. Any DC will be coaching Kelly's 3-4 defense. That isn't changing.

Probably due to the absence of a 330+ 2 gap NT, the key essential piece to most successful 3-4 defenses.

 

[NewBrunswickIrish]

Why do people keep going down this 4-3 road? The 3-4 is the preferred defense of BRIAN KELLY. Any DC will be coaching Kelly's 3-4 defense. That isn't changing.

Also, I thought he said that they would go 3-4 when he first got here because they lacked good d-lineman?

Not saying that they will or should switch to a 4-3 full time or know what Kelly's preference is but bringing in the amount of cats they are this year would make it easier since they would play DE if the move was made.

 

[Emcee77]

Probably due to the absence of a 330+ 2 gap NT, the key essential piece to most successful 3-4 defenses.

Disagree that such a player is essential. Kona is under 300 and he is just fine as a NT. Cwynar was too.

We have plenty of guys who can play NT. Jarron Jones and Springmann are both 300+ big bodies who have experience on the nose and will do just fine there next year. Other big bodies like Rochell, Tuitt, Dickerson, Day, Jay Hayes could all potentially take reps there (depending on how some of those guys, particularly the younger ones, develop physically). I'm not worried about it and very much doubt that we will go to a 4-3 base, especially when all the other pieces of the D have been recruited for a 3-4 base. Now, we will play a lot of situational 4-down, but a real system change ... don't see it, never have. Maybe it's just me.

 

[Booslum31]

Disagree that such a player is essential. Kona is under 300 and he is just fine as a NT. Cwynar was too.

We have plenty of guys who can play NT. Jarron Jones and Springmann are both 300+ big bodies who have experience on the nose and will do just fine there next year. Other big bodies like Rochell, Tuitt, Dickerson, Day, Jay Hayes could all potentially take reps there (depending on how some of those guys, particularly the younger ones, develop physically). I'm not worried about it and very much doubt that we will go to a 4-3 base, especially when all the other pieces of the D have been recruited for a 3-4 base. Now, we will play a lot of situational 4-down, but a real system change ... don't see it, never have. Maybe it's just me.

I agree Emcee...I'm way more worried about the two LB's we put in the middle.

 

[dwshade]

Probably due to the absence of a 330+ 2 gap NT, the key essential piece to most successful 3-4 defenses.

Don't have to be 330+ to play NT. Bama's NT was 310 this year. Schwenke played the position at 300. Jarron Jones can handle the position and he has 3 years of eligibility remaining. The Lou Nix of the world are a rare breed, exception rather than the rule.

 

[ulukinatme]

To those guys that say the NT isn't that important in the 3-4:

The nose tackle and the inside linebackers, those are three guys that are very important. But when you go through it, the nose tackle is probably the single-most important guy. --Joe Collier, Denver Broncos assistant (1969–1988), architect of the "Orange Crush Defense"

After Bud Wilkinson, Collier was probably one of the first 3-4 experts. I would think Wilkinson would think the same way. Nose Tackle is considered the most physically demanding position in football. You are essentially asked to control the A gap, the center of all the action, and typically eat up at least 2 blockers. Typically in the 3-4 you're asking 3 DL to eat up 4 blockers, or sometimes 5, so your linebackers are free to make plays. If your NT isn't capable of the job, that makes it harder on your DE's and then your LBs.

I think JJ can play the position. Now that he has the coach's trust, I think he'll emerge as a good player. He probably won't be on the level of Nix, maybe if he plays all 4 years. The prospects behind him are a little worrying though, we're obviously not deep at the position, and JJ is still inexperienced. To make matters worse, we've struggled picking up ILBs, which is probably the #2 most important position in the 3-4. It's no wonder theres talk that we'll shift to a 4-3, especially since we're picking up an abundance of guys that can play as either 4-3 DE or maybe CAT/OLB.

 

[woolybug25]

To those guys that say the NT isn't that important in the 3-4:



After Bud Wilkinson, Collier was probably one of the first 3-4 experts. I would think Wilkinson would think the same way. Nose Tackle is considered the most physically demanding position in football. You are essentially asked to control the A gap, the center of all the action, and typically eat up at least 2 blockers. Typically in the 3-4 you're asking 3 DL to eat up 4 blockers, or sometimes 5, so your linebackers are free to make plays. If your NT isn't capable of the job, that makes it harder on your DE's and then your LBs.

I think JJ can play the position. Now that he has the coach's trust, I think he'll emerge as a good player. He probably won't be on the level of Nix, maybe if he plays all 4 years. The prospects behind him are a little worrying though, we're obviously not deep at the position, and JJ is still inexperienced. To make matters worse, we've struggled picking up ILBs, which is probably the #2 most important position in the 3-4. It's no wonder theres talk that we'll shift to a 4-3, especially since we're picking up an abundance of guys that can play as either 4-3 DE or maybe CAT/OLB.

Reps.

Exactly. Despite "recruiting for this system for many years", we are lacking in ILB and specifically NT. Both positions are critical to a 3-4. Meanwhile, we have plenty of DT depth and guys that can play with their hand in the dirt. We had the players for a 3-4 last year because of Teo and Nix. Next year, we don't have anything near that. What we have is great personell for for a 4-3.