'14 MI DE Jhonathon Williams (Pending Transfer)

[bobbyok1]

I know the Tylers well. Small world. They lived two doors down from me.

Very cool

 

[ulukinatme]

Great pickup. I'm guessing the Mizzou boards and bashing him right now. Probably saying he's afraid to play in the SEC.

I took a look out there, heres what I found on Tigerboard. Not a lot of bad to say, most are "Oh well, who else can we get?" mentality. Here were a few amusing posts:

Sucks that Williams mom swayed him

Yeah, damn parents, they never want what's best for their kids!

Hopefully it ranks terribly (Talking about their recruiting class). I love beating all these stud filled teams with supposed scrubs.

Followed by:

You are serious I am sure and you think this is going to happen every year when it hasnt before.

We didn't need him anyway(nm)

Still a long way until signing day. We'll either get him back, or get somebody else, better and FIRE PINKIE

I heard we pulled his offer. Something about gay midget porn. No more details than that.

 

[woolybug25]

To those comments above, all of them except the "parents swaying" comments are in jest. They actually seemed pretty cool about it.

 

[ulukinatme]

To those comments above, all of them except the "parents swaying" comments are in jest. They actually seemed pretty cool about it.

Yeah, probably, some were amusing though. Here was another that I just saw that was kind of funny

Williams aint a big loss. He wants to get a degree and do something other than play in the NFL

I like the premise that you can't get a degree in the SEC, and that you can't play in the NFL if you go to ND

I just saw another poster mention that Missouri would better prepare him for the NFL if he wanted to go that route. Uhh...maybe if you're talking tough SEC competition, but we still have about twice as many players in the NFL than Missouri last I checked.

 

[aubeirish]

Yeah, probably, some were amusing though. Here was another that I just saw that was kind of funny



I like the premise that you can't get a degree in the SEC, and that you can't play in the NFL if you go to ND

I just saw another poster mention that Missouri would better prepare him for the NFL if he wanted to go that route. Uhh...maybe if you're talking tough SEC competition, but we still have about twice as many players in the NFL than Missouri last I checked.

Haha, and they say we are delusional. Didn't Georgia Southern just beat Florida this week-end?

 

[connor_in]

Due to this commitment, somewhere greyhammer is rolling

 

[Irishnuke]

I'm sad the Asian celebratory pics have been cleaned up....but welcome home, Jhonathon

I don't know if I want to live in a world where there are no pictures of slutty Asian chicks on a message board to celebrate a verbal commitment.

Welcome Mr. Williams.

 

[fitz_bu47]

After watching his highlights...super pumped. Very raw, doesn't look like good competition, but big and athletic, and if "coachable" could turn into a real beast down the line.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Great pickup. Welcome Jhonathon! Go Irish!

 

[ChiRish]

Annnnnd it's official.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Jhonny_willl">@Jhonny_willl</a> congrats on making the <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%2340YearDecision&src=hash">#40YearDecision</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NDnation&src=hash">#NDnation</a> is glad you joined the family🍀🍀🍀Mad props to Missouri fans <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ClassAct&src=hash">#ClassAct</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23GoIrish&src=hash">#GoIrish</a></p>— Joshua (@NDFister) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFister/statuses/405771235822272512">November 27, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[PANDFAN]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Berrien Springs SR Jhonny Williams will play football at Notre Dame! Hear from <a href="https://twitter.com/Jhonny_willl">@Jhonny_willl</a> at 6pm on WNDU! <a href="http://t.co/y3w0866sqk">pic.twitter.com/y3w0866sqk</a></p>— Angelo Di Carlo (@angdicarlowndu) <a href="https://twitter.com/angdicarlowndu/statuses/405774462403878913">November 27, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[Booslum31]

Congrats Jhonathon! Love when we add a great athlete with big upside. Had to work hard to spell first name right...I think i have it down now. Welcome!

 

[EuropeanDomer]

OVERALL TRAITS
Size-Strength-Speed
Possesses very good height with solid bulk and a lengthy frame that can support additional good mass with time in a college weight program. Displays average strength and initial quickness for size and average to slightly below average top-end speed for size.
Versus the Run
Flashes the ability to fire out low and be able to hold his ground, but needs to watch pad level as he can quickly rise up. Flashes ability to bring his hands and get off blocks, but needs to improve hand usage and upper body strength to extend and when he gets tall and isn%u2019t active with his hands he can give ground.
Pass Rush Skills
Flashes some upside and can try to take a tight path, but lacks the initial burst and ability to bend to win with a speed rush. Needs to develop the use of his weapons and doesn't display the lateral mobility to set up double moves and quickly redirect.
Toughness/Motor
Has good size, but needs to continue to fill out, improve strength and better learn to maximize his tools. Will trail the play at times and can improve angles in pursuit. A drag down arm tackler.
Bottom Line
Williams flashes some good raw tools and possesses some physical upside, but needs to keep developing as a player and physically to get more from his abilities. Could develop as a blocking TE. We don't see an immediate contributor on defense and we feel will need at least a red-shirt.
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This scouting report does not sound very hopeful..

 

[PANDFAN]

This scouting report does not sound very hopeful..

to me it sounds like someone who is just raw...needs to refine technique, weight room and he will be fine

 

[connor_in]

Congrats Jhonathon! Love when we add a great athlete with big upside. Had to work hard to spell first name right...I think i have it down now. Welcome!

Makes me wonder...is dshans OK with this commit? Ya' know with the whole name spelling thing?

 

[palinurus]

Could be a Mario Williams type with some weight room work.

Or drop a few and be a Ted Hendricks.

 

[Redbar]

Congratulations to Jhonathon and the Williams family, I know you know the import of the decision you made, we are so glad to welcome you to the family. Go Irish!

 

[texbender]

I think this is a great get by the staff. I like the athleticism we are seeing in these recruits. Hope this pans out on NSD, looking like a very solid class. Would like to see some DL for the middle.

 

[Ironman8]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Extremely excited, blessed and thankful for all Gods done for me. committed to play football at the university of Notre Dame!! <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23GoIrish&src=hash">#GoIrish</a>&#55356;&#57152;&#55356;&#57288;</p>— Jhonny WIlliams (@Jhonny_willl) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jhonny_willl/statuses/405789874218733568">November 27, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[yankeeND]

Another great addition! Stoked about this one, lots of upside!

 

[Irishokie]

Haha, and they say we are delusional. Didn't Georgia Southern just beat Florida this week-end?

SEC! SEC! SEC! Can't wait to see what this guy will do in a couple years! Ishaq 2.0?! The potential!!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Long DE with 4.5 SPPEEEEEEEEDDDD.

21st century defensive football.

WHOOP! and thank you Jhonathon!!!

Anyone realize that he was recruited by the staff as a CAT. Or at least that is what he and all the services say.

I'm a little unclear how all of that works but that only matters if you are signing a class over 25 IIRC. The number to consider here is the 85 total scholarships

Zactly! You can sign 30 if five can count for '13, (that class total minus its early enrollees), and you don't exceed 85 total scholarships.

EE'ing has nothing to do with how many we can bring it. Our limit is 85 scholarships. Whether or not kids enroll early does not impact that limit at all.

Right now 24 guys combined with 4 projected 5th years get us to 85 with no further attrition. Obviously things are fluid, so it is subject to change.

It sort of does, with all due respect. Because you can count the EE's toward the earlier or later year, wherever you have room. Over three years you are going to max out, but don't you believe we have some impending Medical wavers and some transfers? Remember what happened last year?

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Jhonny, a chara,

Beidh tú a thabhairt ar an taobh dheis Dé dul ar stailc síos ár naimhde. Coinnigh an creideamh! Beidh tú a bheith iontach. Táimid ag tógáil ar arm na saighdiúirí Éireannacha, agus go bhfuil tú eochair i measc iad. Ádh mór oraibh!

Beir bua agus beannacht,

The Bogtrotter

Shamrock Saighdiúir

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Beidh sé seo a bheith ina saighdiúir CAT a mheaitseáil Jaylon Smith mar DOG. Beidh sé go hiontach!

 

[ohara831]

Good news! Glad he's Irish!

 

[irishfanjho15]

Anyone realize that he was recruited by the staff as a CAT. Or at least that is what he and all the services say.

Bog do you know how many EEs we have right now?

 

[jakerbluegold]

I know Ishaq is 6'5", but 6'6" seems REALLY tall for a LB.
Any thoughts?

 

[irishfanjho15]

And love this kids rangy game. Great pick up for ND. Welcome Jhonathon.

 

[IrishLax]

I know Ishaq is 6'5", but 6'6" seems REALLY tall for a LB.
Any thoughts?

We just had this discussion in another thread... quoting my self:

What I'm saying is just because someone reports that they're being recruited for "CAT" doesn't mean that they're all playing the same position nor that they all project long term for the same roles. We have literally 6 guys -- Bonner, Yeargin, Blankenship, Williams, Hill, Trumbetti -- who have reported being recruited for "CAT" during the process. Obviously, we wouldn't be recruiting 6 people for 1 identical role.

How guys are used within the defense really moves away from strictly defined roles for DL/OLBs. Guys get moved all over the place like puzzle pieces. One play Okwara is in a two point stance playing true OLB off the line of scrimmage, the next he is lined up in a NG spot on a passing down and swatting a Taylor Kelly pass. Guys get plugged in wherever their skills warrant, and depending on the situation their uses can be quite variable.

So while the coaches might simplify where they're being recruited for to "CAT" when talking to them and showing them how they might be used, their intended uses due to their skills are likely different... and as we all know, the staff is apt to move "big skill" guys wherever they best fit after they get them in camp.

There is little doubt in my mind that when he's done developing he's going to be a hand on the ground type of guy. He has a big frame and should be able to bulk up a ton. He's also a serious project player with a low floor, high ceiling... so maybe we'll never see him at all.

No, 6'6" in and of itself is not too tall for an OLB (see: Trent Murphy for Stanford, etc.)... and it's very possible you see him playing as a true OLB with this speed... but I'd personally bet against it relative to some other prospects. I think Williams and Trumbetti are destined to be much more DE types.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

We just had this discussion in another thread... quoting my self:



There is little doubt in my mind that when he's done developing he's going to be a hand on the ground type of guy. He has a big frame and should be able to bulk up a ton. He's also a serious project player with a low floor, high ceiling... so maybe we'll never see him at all.

No, 6'6" in and of itself is not too tall for an OLB (see: Trent Murphy for Stanford, etc.)... and it's very possible you see him playing as a true OLB with this speed... but I'd personally bet against it relative to some other prospects. I think Williams and Trumbetti are destined to be much more DE types.

Seems to me if you recruit a fairly legitimate 4.5 or 4.4 forty guys, that is 6'6" tall and you aren't exactly sure how much good weight you can add, flipping him between said positions until you find out where he settles is a pretty danged good strategy, isn't it?

And if you have a whole defense of superior players that you can move from one place on the field to another, it is hard to game plan for a defense, isn't it?

I mean think about it. We are saying the same thing. And that is when the ND defense is going to get really dangerous. See the way I look at it, six guys are being recruited for the edge. That could be four outside positions. I watched this kid, and I don't agree that he is so much of a project. I understand everything Sean Mele said, but I think he is a little hard on some guys. Rivals, never really took a look at this guy.