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Brian Kelly

"Max Redfield has been progressing very nicely - he's going to be a dynamite player for us. There's just a lot of adjustments at safety"
 
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I will be extremely disappointed if Max doesn't get some PT at safety during the bowl game. I don't care how close the score is. You add a full year of practice, plus the bowl practices and he should be ready to play some reps in the bowl game. No reason to keep him off the field given our current safety play. If he can't get the defense down in that kind of time period, then you have to seriously question if the scheme is too difficult.
 
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Put him in for Farley at Stanford. Tired of seeing missed tackle after missed tackle.

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BleedBlueGold said:
I will be extremely disappointed if Max doesn't get some PT at safety during the bowl game. I don't care how close the score is. You add a full year of practice, plus the bowl practices and he should be ready to play some reps in the bowl game. No reason to keep him off the field given our current safety play. If he can't get the defense down in that kind of time period, then you have to seriously question if the scheme is too difficult.
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BleedBlueGold said:
I will be extremely disappointed if Max doesn't get some PT at safety during the bowl game. I don't care how close the score is. You add a full year of practice, plus the bowl practices and he should be ready to play some reps in the bowl game. No reason to keep him off the field given our current safety play. If he can't get the defense down in that kind of time period, then you have to seriously question if the scheme is too difficult.
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Is he a candidate for a "redshirt"? How would that impact that if he is?
 
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We've seen plenty of Collinsworth-Farley-Hardy-Shumate in a four-man rotation the past few games. Take two of those away, add Max, and now I'm nervous.

Was Butler playing safety earlier in the season? Or am I imagining that? Could be that he was simply playing deep in the nickel/dime.
 
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We've seen plenty of Collinsworth-Farley-Hardy-Shumate in a four-man rotation the past few games. Take two of those away, add Max, and now I'm nervous.

Was Butler playing safety earlier in the season? Or am I imagining that? Could be that he was simply playing deep in the nickel/dime.
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Pretty sure it was this.
 
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Maybe I'm being a pessimist but do you honestly think that anyone other than Collinsworth and Farley is going to see extensive time at safety? With the way Kelly has talked about Redfield needing to learn the position I really doubt he sees any kind of significant time even if Farley misses tackles again.
 
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Ignats said:
Maybe I'm being a pessimist but do you honestly think that anyone other than Collinsworth and Farley is going to see extensive time at safety? With the way Kelly has talked about Redfield needing to learn the position I really doubt he sees any kind of significant time even if Farley misses tackles again.
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I just said that.


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Unfortunately....... I don't see Max taking any pt from aforementioned Collingsworth or Farley.......Farley has really regressed, and I'm sorry, but Collinsworth just isn't athletic enough to make me feel comfortable about winning tomorrow night.......
 
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I must say, I saw an entire practice in August, and Redfield was getting torched repeatedly by almost every receiver he went up against. He certainly looked the part physically, especially for a freshman, and he showed an outstanding burst on some plays, but he was definitely in over his head in fall camp the day I watched.

Now, that was obviously a long time ago and hopefully he has improved, but I can see why the coaches held him out early.

Having said that, I've been to every home game and the UM game, and I do get disappointed when I don't see him out there for at least a play or two, to keep him engaged and get some on-the-job training. But I defer to the coaches as they see him in practice every day and I know about nothing compared to them, so I keep the complaints under my breath at the games and not online.

Hopefully he'll be ready tomorrow!
 
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I look at it like this. If you play him tomorrow and he gets torched, it makes him understand that much more how hard it is to be good and how he must learn the defense to be a great D1 player. Just listening to Max, he sounds like the kind of guy that would get motivated from getting burned a few times by Stanford. On the other hand, if he plays well, if gives him that much more of a confidence boost to be able to play well against a top 15 team.
 
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Please watch from 1:10 for the next couple plays and tell me the coaches are crazy for not playing him...
 
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Please watch from 1:10 for the next couple plays and tell me the coaches are crazy for not playing him...
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He got beat or was late getting over to help in every one of those plays.
 
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jimmymac said:
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Please watch from 1:10 for the next couple plays and tell me the coaches are crazy for not playing him...
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Nothing I saw in that clip is worse than what I watched all year from the safety position.
 
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Irish19 said:
Nothing I saw in that clip is worse than what I watched all year from the safety position.
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I'm not sure about that. He looked pretty out of position in those clips.

It's just a few clips of an hour long practice though. Hard to put his entire situation into perspective off of one little clip.
 
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woolybug25 said:
I'm not sure about that. He looked pretty out of position in those clips.

It's just a few clips of an hour long practice though. Hard to put his entire situation into perspective off of one little clip.
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I agree, it's impossible to put his situation into perspective by watching a short clip, but I certainly didn't see anything worse than I saw on the field this year. Koyack caught him with a nice swim move. I'm okay with our safety giving up a ten pop pass to a 6'5'' tight end if he's attacking the line of scrimmage and punishing ball carriers.
 
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He'll be better next year. The mental jump from the first year to the second can't be underestimated.
 
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Irish19 said:
I agree, it's impossible to put his situation into perspective by watching a short clip, but I certainly didn't see anything worse than I saw on the field this year.
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Now there's uplifting news, after a full season, the Secondary's Savior is no worse than the other guys. Why don't we lower the bar some more.


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Koyack caught him with a nice swim move.
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It was a nice swim move by a man weighing 70 more pounds.


Irish19 said:
I'm okay with our safety giving up a ten pop pass to a 6'5'' tight end if he's attacking the line of scrimmage and punishing ball carriers.
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Really? Offenses ate Zibby up as a Junior and Senior by running play action, committing him and then throwing over his head. Nobody punished ball carriers more. But he gave up frequent chunk plays. This wasn't play action in a game with multiple reads. It was a simple one on one pass drill.

BTW, how much punishment is a 194 pound FS supposed to dish out? Shumate has 20 pounds on Redfield, he CAN dish out punishment as he's as big as most ball carriers he faces. Redfield lacks the size now to do that. Next year perhaps.

Redfield was lined up against a 260 pound TE in pass coverage not a 4.4 WR. Nor was he facing a RB on 3rd and 1. The LOS was the 30 and Koyack caught it over his shoulder at the 50, 20 yards downfield. Koyack took him off the line looking right and breaking left. Koyack made the swim move, caught the perfectly placed football, AND pulled away for the Score. The BIG MAN beat the the quicker one.

Redfield has the potential Koyack used to have. Koyack with development on and off the field now makes plays. There were reasons Redfield didn't move ahead of the others on the Depth Chart during the season.
 
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