'11 SC QB Everett Golson (FSU transfer)

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why? Not everyone is going to end up being a first rounder after working with him, if that was the case this guy would be paid millions by NFL teams. Saying that though, that's a crazy impressive list. Heisman finalist/winners, 1st rounders, and great Div. 1 starters abound.

I never researched it for myself and thought (from this board only for the most part) the guy only worked with already elite QBs... preparing them for The League kind of stuff... that was the impression I got...

to be clear I'm not saying it's not a good thing, just that the list changed my impression of what this whole thing meant.
 
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Looking at that list I'm no longer super excited about Golson's work with him...

Who cares about the list? Golson said the experience has been "ridiculously good"- that's all I need.

why? Not everyone is going to end up being a first rounder after working with him, if that was the case this guy would be paid millions by NFL teams. Saying that though, that's a crazy impressive list. Heisman finalist/winners, 1st rounders, and great Div. 1 starters abound.

Lord knows I want to drop a negative bomb on this...but Acamp...I have to disagree.

Working with Whitfield is only a good thing. He's got a different approach to working with QB's and that will fit with EG's "style".

And the biggest point here?? EG is WORKING in his time out of the game. Hell, I wouldn't care if he was training with Uncle Larry in the old lot throwing through tires...at least he's keeping himself sharp.
 

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btw, where the hell is Capital State and they have a footbal team??
 
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I never researched it for myself and thought (from this board only for the most part) the guy only worked with already elite QBs... preparing them for The League kid of stuff... that was the impression I got...

to be clear I'm not saying it's not a good thing, just that the list changed my impression of what this whole thing meant.

I see what you're saying but that would be weird. If Jack Del Rio wants to pay for his kid (who is a walk-on) why would you turn down his money?

Personally the fact that guys like Johnny Manziel and Andrew Luck (who can afford the best in the business) seek this guy out makes me really excited about what we could see from Golson. But, I understand what you're saying.
 
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Lord knows I want to drop a negative bomb on this...but Acamp...I have to disagree.

Working with Whitfield is only a good thing. He's got a different approach to working with QB's and that will fit with EG's "style".

And the biggest point here?? EG is WORKING in his time out of the game. Hell, I wouldn't care if he was training with Uncle Larry in the old lot throwing through tires...at least he's keeping himself sharp.

Uncle Rico is where it's at.

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Sampson at II with some interesting info. Golson will be able to participate in bowl practices with the team once first semester exams are finished. However, he cannot participate in competition between semesters for ND. Therefore he wouldn't be eligible to play in the bowl game.

And Kuehnja was a ****ing idiot for asking a question along these lines. Lol.

As far as cheating and how he danced around it. He acted nervous to answer the question. Embarrassed. And I can imagine there are things he was asked by ND to say and not to say when giving interviews. Plus we don't even know exactly what he did. Cheated, poor judgement, or somewhere in between. Its never been spelled out exactly.
 

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I dont know if it has been revealed or discussed, but Golson cheating wasn't that significant. Meaning he did cheat and that is a very bad thing but he didn't have answers or use a phone or store info on a calculator. A classmate was looking at his answers while taking an exam. A girl in the class complained to the administration about it and the student was questioned. During the questioning the student revealed he was allowed by golson to look at his test while taking the exam. (by looking over his shoulder not physically handing him his exam) According to the university academic guidelines this act is also deemed cheating if the other student didn't make the attempt to cover his answers, thus causing the academic suspension. I know many are going to question if this statement is true and some won't believe it. My dad is very connected to the athletic department still and was told by a current players father (won't be named) at the game in Dallas. Just thought I would share in case people were wondering what his actual violation was.
 

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I see what you're saying but that would be weird. If Jack Del Rio wants to pay for his kid (who is a walk-on) why would you turn down his money?

Personally the fact that guys like Johnny Manziel and Andrew Luck (who can afford the best in the business) seek this guy out makes me really excited about what we could see from Golson. But, I understand what you're saying.

I count among his current students the starting QB's for 7 of the top 25 teams in the current BCS standings, plus Aaron Murray. I think this guy knows what he's doing.
 

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I count among his current students the starting QB's for 7 of the top 25 teams in the current BCS standings, plus Aaron Murray. I think this guy knows what he's doing.

plus Ben Roethlisberger...........
 

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I dont know if it has been revealed or discussed, but Golson cheating wasn't that significant. Meaning he did cheat and that is a very bad thing but he didn't have answers or use a phone or store info on a calculator. A classmate was looking at his answers while taking an exam. A girl in the class complained to the administration about it and the student was questioned. During the questioning the student revealed he was allowed by golson to look at his test while taking the exam. (by looking over his shoulder not physically handing him his exam) According to the university academic guidelines this act is also deemed cheating if the other student didn't make the attempt to cover his answers, thus causing the academic suspension. I know many are going to question if this statement is true and some won't believe it. My dad is very connected to the athletic department still and was told by a current players father (won't be named) at the game in Dallas. Just thought I would share in case people were wondering what his actual violation was.

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...but I want to believe.
 

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I dont know if it has been revealed or discussed, but Golson cheating wasn't that significant. Meaning he did cheat and that is a very bad thing but he didn't have answers or use a phone or store info on a calculator. A classmate was looking at his answers while taking an exam. A girl in the class complained to the administration about it and the student was questioned. During the questioning the student revealed he was allowed by golson to look at his test while taking the exam. (by looking over his shoulder not physically handing him his exam) According to the university academic guidelines this act is also deemed cheating if the other student didn't make the attempt to cover his answers, thus causing the academic suspension. I know many are going to question if this statement is true and some won't believe it. My dad is very connected to the athletic department still and was told by a current players father (won't be named) at the game in Dallas. Just thought I would share in case people were wondering what his actual violation was.

Kinda what I was referring too. So basically the story you've been relayed is that he didn't cheat, but actually allowed someone else to. That would make sense on why he wouldn't say ' I cheated '
 

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I dont know if it has been revealed or discussed, but Golson cheating wasn't that significant. Meaning he did cheat and that is a very bad thing but he didn't have answers or use a phone or store info on a calculator. A classmate was looking at his answers while taking an exam. A girl in the class complained to the administration about it and the student was questioned. During the questioning the student revealed he was allowed by golson to look at his test while taking the exam. (by looking over his shoulder not physically handing him his exam) According to the university academic guidelines this act is also deemed cheating if the other student didn't make the attempt to cover his answers, thus causing the academic suspension. I know many are going to question if this statement is true and some won't believe it. My dad is very connected to the athletic department still and was told by a current players father (won't be named) at the game in Dallas. Just thought I would share in case people were wondering what his actual violation was.


Huh.. Very interesting if true.

On another note, if this ever happened in the SEC they'd probably get the game ball for helping a fellow student out
 

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Huh.. Very interesting if true.

On another note, if this ever happened in the SEC they'd probably get the game ball for helping a fellow student out

Doubt their players are worth cheating off of.

Besides how do you cheat off an advanced P.E. exam?
 

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How desperate do you have to be to cheat off a football player at ND. I know Everett isn't dumb but still.
 

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How desperate do you have to be to cheat off a football player at ND. I know Everett isn't dumb but still.

What happened to the other guy? Was it a football player?
How do they even prove this sort of thing? Would suggest Golson admitted to it, which is something.
 

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What happened to the other guy? Was it a football player?
How do they even prove this sort of thing? Would suggest Golson admitted to it, which is something.

From the original story

During the questioning the student revealed he was allowed by golson to look at his test while taking the exam.

The student admitted Golson allowed him to look over his shoulder.
 

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Not saying what they did was right, but the girl that went to the administration and told them what was happening sounds like a real peach. I would love to hang out with her, straight party animal
 

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Not saying what they did was right, but the girl that went to the administration and told them what was happening sounds like a real peach. I would love to hang out with her, straight party animal

Hahahaha. No kidding. I always loved THAT girl in class.
 

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Let's not get too carried away, now. It's not like this information came from an official channel at the University, or straight from an Athletic Dept. official. I'm not saying that IrishSpartan can't be trusted, but I don't know him personally, nor is he willing to name names(and probably rightly so). So I will treat it as what it is......... a rumor, until I hear something official. And I doubt that we will ever hear anything official.
 

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Let's not get too carried away, now. It's not like this information came from an official channel at the University, or straight from an Athletic Dept. official. I'm not saying that IrishSpartan can't be trusted, but I don't know him personally, nor is he willing to name names(and probably rightly so). So I will treat it as what it is......... a rumor, until I hear something official. And I doubt that we will ever hear anything official.

Exactly, as much as I would like to believe it because it paints Golson in a better light it is still a rumor.

Please do not take this as an attack on you IrishSpartan, I am inclined to believe you but unless a university official confirmed it I wouldn't say it was more than a rumor even if someone like Pete Sampson said it. I appreciate it bring it to us though!
 

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The university and/or Brian Kelly will most likely never release information to the media as to what Golson actually did.

Only Golson can, and right now, he's just calling it "poor judgement". All we have until he decides to come out with what happened are rumours.
 

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I dont know if it has been revealed or discussed, but Golson cheating wasn't that significant. Meaning he did cheat and that is a very bad thing but he didn't have answers or use a phone or store info on a calculator. A classmate was looking at his answers while taking an exam. A girl in the class complained to the administration about it and the student was questioned. During the questioning the student revealed he was allowed by golson to look at his test while taking the exam. (by looking over his shoulder not physically handing him his exam) According to the university academic guidelines this act is also deemed cheating if the other student didn't make the attempt to cover his answers, thus causing the academic suspension. I know many are going to question if this statement is true and some won't believe it. My dad is very connected to the athletic department still and was told by a current players father (won't be named) at the game in Dallas. Just thought I would share in case people were wondering what his actual violation was.

Kinda what I was referring too. So basically the story you've been relayed is that he didn't cheat, but actually allowed someone else to. That would make sense on why he wouldn't say ' I cheated '

Let's not get too carried away, now. It's not like this information came from an official channel at the University, or straight from an Athletic Dept. official. I'm not saying that IrishSpartan can't be trusted, but I don't know him personally, nor is he willing to name names(and probably rightly so). So I will treat it as what it is......... a rumor, until I hear something official. And I doubt that we will ever hear anything official.

Thank you.


He cheated. You don't get thrown outta school...even ND...for some kid looking over your shoulder.

That's idotic. I know this is a ND fan board....but come on fellas. This is about as delusional as I"ve heard.
 

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True, it'll never get released. The rumors on campus, at least that i've heard, have been all about an accounting test. I've heard this version, that he was looking off someone else's test, and that someone else took it for him. We'll never know for sure unless on an individual basis you get lucky enough to get credible information from someone you know personally i guess.

He cheated. You don't get thrown outta school...even ND...for some kid looking over your shoulder.

That's idotic. I know this is a ND fan board....but come on fellas. This is about as delusional as I"ve heard.

You clearly aren't very familiar with how ND functions as an academic institution. It was reported that this wasn't his first honor code offense, and if that's the case, he most certainly could have been thrown out for letting someone look over his shoulder on a test. The ND honor code considers a student who passively allows cheating, or even a student who simply sees cheating and fails to report it, as equally culpable with the traditionally understood "cheater".

The information's all in everyone's favorite draconian set of rules, duLac, if you want to check for yourself:

Introduction // du Lac: A Guide to Student Life // University of Notre Dame

It's quite long and difficult to navigate, and also stupid, so here's the relevant part:

Undergraduate Academic Code of Honor // University of Notre Dame
 
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True, it'll never get released. The rumors on campus, at least that i've heard, have been all about an accounting test. I've heard this version, that he was looking off someone else's test, and that someone else took it for him. We'll never know for sure unless on an individual basis you get lucky enough to get credible information from someone you know personally i guess.



You clearly aren't very familiar with how ND functions as an academic institution. It was reported that this wasn't his first honor code offense, and if that's the case, he most certainly could have been thrown out for letting someone look over his shoulder on a test. The ND honor code considers a student who passively allows cheating, or even a student who simply sees cheating and fails to report it, as equally culpable with the traditionally understood "cheater".

The information's all in everyone's favorite draconian set of rules, duLac, if you want to check for yourself:

Introduction // du Lac: A Guide to Student Life // University of Notre Dame

It's quite long and difficult to navigate, and also stupid, so here's the relevant part:

Undergraduate Academic Code of Honor // University of Notre Dame

How Draconian.
 

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Kinda what I was referring too. So basically the story you've been relayed is that he didn't cheat, but actually allowed someone else to. That would make sense on why he wouldn't say ' I cheated '

Yeah, exactly. It would explain why he said "Yeeaaaah, something like that" when asked if he cheated. He participated in cheating, but his grades weren't the ones that were going to benefit. Very interesting if true.
 
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