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And that would be better how?

really......a QB that has huge upside due to arm strength and good athletic ability wouldn't be an upgrade in this system?

I would much rather have a guy that can be a threat to run and pass while still learning than having a guy that forces the team to play with one hand behind its back. I appreciate everything Tommy is trying to do and I don't blame him, I just think he is being asked to do something that he can't do.
 

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really......a QB that has huge upside due to arm strength and good athletic ability wouldn't be an upgrade in this system?

I would much rather have a guy that can be a threat to run and pass while still learning than having a guy that forces the team to play with one hand behind its back. I appreciate everything Tommy is trying to do and I don't blame him, I just think he is being asked to do something that he can't do.

So you'd rather have the QB have thrown 12 INTs, in the first 4 games? The only "sure" advantage, if Kiel was still here, is that we probably would be much more dedicated to the run.
 

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So you'd rather have the QB have thrown 12 INTs, in the first 4 games? The only "sure" advantage, if Kiel was still here, is that we probably would be much more dedicated to the run.

Lets put it another way.

Do you think OU would rather have Blake Bell or Tommy?

We can compare Bell and Gunner, but the fact of the matter is that Bell is a better runner but worse passer than Gunner coming out of school. But I see no reason why ND couldn't do the same thing with Gunner that OU is doing with Bell.
 

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So you'd rather have the QB have thrown 12 INTs, in the first 4 games? The only "sure" advantage, if Kiel was still here, is that we probably would be much more dedicated to the run.

That's it! That way Greg Bryant gets more touches....
 

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Doubt it will happen, and I know he couldn't even out run the SB police, but I'd like to see Tommy given the option when he has massive open space to run for a few yards. We all know he's not athletic in that manor, and slow, and so does every other team. There are times when his reads are covered and pressure is coming from one side but the other is open. Allow the man to jog for a few and slide.
 
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Doubt it will happen, and I know he couldn't even out run the SB police, but I'd like to see Tommy given the option when he has massive open space to run for a few yards. We all know he's not athletic in that manor, and slow, and so does every other team. There are times when his reads are covered and pressure is coming from one side but the other is open. Allow the man to jog for a few and slide.

I'm very surprised that on 3rd and short (since we've shown that we'll go 5 wide almost every time) we never do a QB draw.
 

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I'm very surprised that on 3rd and short (since we've shown that we'll go 5 wide almost every time) we never do a QB draw.

Wan't it the Michigan game last year he scored on a 2 or 3 yard run right up the middle? I'm not saying designed runs either. BK trusts him enough to allow him to read the D and change the plays at the line. Trust him enough to scramble for a few when the play breaks down completely. It doesn't happen often, so like 3-4 times a game. I can see the 'if Tommy gets hurt taking a hit' side tho.
 
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Wan't it the Michigan game last year he scored on a 2 or 3 yard run right up the middle? I'm not saying designed runs either. BK trusts him enough to allow him to read the D and change the plays at the line. Trust him enough to scramble for a few when the play breaks down completely. It doesn't happen often, so like 3-4 times a game. I can see the 'if Tommy gets hurt taking a hit' side tho.

Yes it was the Michigan game. And I know what you're talking about I just went off on a tangent of my own about the QB draw on 3rd downs.

About scrambling, IDK. He's really slow. I do think he needs to move out of the pocket, he sits there for far too long. As far as tucking it and running? I supposed every pig finds a hole in the fence once in a while, lol.
 

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ND Milestones Reached After USC Game

ND Milestones Reached After USC Game

3rd place with 60.8% Career Completion
4th place with 858 Pass Attempts
5th place with 6,073 Pass Yds


ND All-Time Milestones Within Reach After USC Game:
Pass Completions 522, 37 pass completions to move into 3rd
Pass Completions 522, 173 pass completions to move into 2nd
Pass Attempts 858, 119 pass attempts to move into 3rd
Pass Yards 6,073, 455 pass yards to move into 4th
Pass TDs 49, 4 TD passes to move into 3rd
Pass TDs 49, 12 TD passes to move into 2nd
 
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Notre Dame's All-Time Winningest Quarterbacks

Notre Dame's All-Time Winningest Quarterbacks

Name W L T Pct.
1. John Lujack 20 1 1 .932
2. Tony Rice 28 3 0 .903
3. Ralph Guglielmi 26 3 2 .871
4. Tom Clements 29 5 0 .853
5. Joe Theismann 20 3 2 .840
6. Terry Hanratty 22 4 1 .833
7. Angelo Bertelli 15 2 3 .825
8. Joe Montana 19 5 0 .792
Rick Mirer 28 7 1 .792
-- Tommy Rees 19 6 0 .760

Most ND Wins for Starting QB
Clements, Ron Powlus and Brady Quinn share the school record for total victories (29)
Mirer and Rice have 28
Guglielmi has 26
Hanratty has 22
Lujack and Theismann have 20
Rees has 19 victories.
 

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Lowest INT Percentage - Career (min. 150 attempts)

Lowest INT Percentage - Career (min. 150 attempts)

1. Everett Golson 1.89 (6 of 318), 2012
2. Jimmy Clausen 2.432 (27 of 1110), 2007-09
3. Brady Quinn 2.434 (39 of 1602), 2003-06
4. Matt LoVecchio 2.58 (5 of 194), 2000-01
5. Dayne Crist 2.66 (9 of 338), 2008-11
6. Ron Powlus 2.79 (27 of 969), 1994-97
7. Rick Mirer 3.30 (23 of 698), 1989-92
8. Kevin McDougal 3.33 (6 of 180), 1990-93
9. Carlyle Holiday 3.35 (16 of 477), 2001-04
10. Tommy Rees 3.49 (30 of 858), 2010-


Lowest INT Percentage - Career (min. 850 attempts)
1. Jimmy Clausen 2.432 (27 of 1110), 2007-09
2. Brady Quinn 2.434 (39 of 1602), 2003-06
3. Ron Powlus 2.79 (27 of 969), 1994-97
4. Tommy Rees 3.49 (30 of 858), 2010-
 

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No doubting Tommy Rees' value after tight Notre Dame Irish win - ESPN

By Matt Fortuna ESPN.com 10/20/13

SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- Maybe if Tommy Rees were like the rest of us, he would have laughed to himself throughout the second half Saturday.

Maybe, with his hoodie on and his night done after a vicious third-quarter hit, he would have looked out to the field and watched a Notre Dame offense that had been forced to run six meaningful drives without him. Maybe he would have struggled to contain an I-know-something-you-don't smirk as the Fighting Irish, accounting for penalties, netted 30 total yards and gained one first down in his absence. Maybe he would have offered a hearty chuckle when seeing his backup and friend, Andrew Hendrix, misfire on all four of his pass attempts.

Yes, Notre Dame's offense was that ugly without Rees in its 14-10 win here over rival USC. And yes, the Irish's defense deserves plenty of credit for bailing out the offense with its back against the wall time and time again, even if the Trojans -- already without top running back Tre Madden -- lost star receiver Marqise Lee for the second half and did themselves no favors with several costly penalties late.

But a glimpse at life without Rees left everybody outside the program eating their words for most of the second half. Notre Dame wasn't just bad offensively; it was downright brutal, with even the sure-handed Cam McDaniel coughing up the ball late and not a soul among the raucous sellout crowd exhaling until the final zeroes were on the clock after Hendrix's two kneel-downs on his seventh and final drive.

And as it turns out, Rees had been one step ahead of everyone. His biggest play had actually come at halftime, two drives before he would be on the receiving end of a big knock from USC linebacker Lamar Dawson with just more than nine minutes to play in the third quarter. Rees was slow to even sit up, then walked gingerly off the field under his own power. He was standing up on the sidelines being interrogated by team medical personnel before heading to the locker room for further evaluation. Coach Brian Kelly said afterward that Rees had suffered a neck strain and was all there mentally, and that the team should know more in the next 24 hours.

But when the teams had gone to their locker rooms for halftime Saturday, Rees had taken it upon himself to deliver a speech that proved to be prescient in a game that featured no scoring during the final 30 minutes.

"It was a passionate speech, one of the more passionate things I've ever heard Tommy say," captain TJ Jones said. "It was really, 'Just keep your head in the game, don't give up. We've got this, 30 minutes wasn't enough. We need another 30 to win this game.' He had a lot of the guys almost in tears. It's the first time Tommy spoke out like that, and it was definitely emotional."


It had come after one of Rees' better performances to date. The senior finished the game 14-of-21 passing for 166 yards with two touchdowns and no turnovers over the course of one half and one more series. He had run the offense at a much quicker pace, and the unit even left some points on the board on the game's first drive after McDaniel failed to reach the end zone on four consecutive runs.

Rees had also passed Rick Mirer on the school's all-time passing yards list, becoming the fifth Notre Dame quarterback to eclipse the 6,000-yard mark for his career.

"I think it does say a lot about the kid and his perseverance," Kelly said of the milestone. "He's just a tough kid, and he just keeps battling. I'm sure he'll look back on that a little bit later and be able to point out, 'Hey, I did play at Notre Dame and I wasn't that bad.' "

No kidding. From stepping up for an injured Dayne Crist and leading Notre Dame to four straight wins as a freshman, to surviving a turnover-plagued 2011; from getting arrested and then being relegated to a glorified graduate assistant role as Everett Golson took control, to then bailing Golson out late throughout last year's 12-0 run, Rees has nearly seen it all.

He has taken plenty of heat, too, whether it was getting booed by his home fans in his 2012 debut or withstanding a recent social-media firestorm that is coming his way only because of the poor academic judgment that the man initially in front of him displayed this past spring.

Golson, by the way, does not have to worry about schoolwork or bad weather the way Rees does, as he is training with noted quarterback guru George Whitfield out in sunny San Diego.

From there, Golson could see what the rest of us saw once his old teammate was no longer an option against the Trojans.

"As you could tell, our performance in the second half was a little difficult to adjust," tight end Troy Niklas said. "But I think we were able to make do with what we could."

Rees might have provided that extra lift just moments earlier, the son of an NFL scout always worrying about what's next.

"He was just kind of reiterating what the coaches had said, and probably a little something else," team captain Zack Martin said of Rees' halftime speech. "But we had an opportunity to beat SC at home and we hadn't done that in a long time. But to be able to win three out of four years for this class is pretty special."

Whatever checks Notre Dame had written to the devil before last season had been cashed since the calendar turned to 2013 -- Manti Te'o's girlfriend hoax, four notable transfers and Golson's suspension getting sandwiched between the Alabama beatdown and the two losses the Irish had suffered through six games this season.

Then came Saturday night against USC, and everyone got a look at just how much worse it could get if the starter everyone wanted gone could no longer return.
 

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Searching for news and injury update. I know we will get the low down tomorrow at the Tuesday Presser, but anybody know if he is good to go for Saturday?

Thanks!
 

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Searching for news and injury update. I know we will get the low down tomorrow at the Tuesday Presser, but anybody know if he is good to go for Saturday?

Thanks!

Dying to know this

Saw somewhere on Twitter that he was listed as day to day. Not sure what the source was though..

BK stated that he was day to day and was going to practice Tuesday. That would be the big indicator and Zaire will get some real reps in case.
 

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We'll have more info in about 20 minutes here.

I'm not super worried about it. Even Hendrix should be able to beat Air Force.
 

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Tommy Rees is available for interviews tomorrow for #NotreDame, as sure a sign as any that he'll play Saturday.
 

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We'll have more info in about 20 minutes here.

I'm not super worried about it. Even Hendrix should be able to beat Air Force.

Glad you have the faith because if Hendrix plays, AF will probably put 11 in the box and make him beat them with his arm.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Q. Status of Tommy Rees? A. Tommy has been cleared to practice. B/c he was cleared early, he will play <a href="http://t.co/iE3GUyVmuN">http://t.co/iE3GUyVmuN</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/statuses/392683506867789824">October 22, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Q. Status of Tommy Rees? A. Tommy has been cleared to practice. B/c he was cleared early, he will play <a href="http://t.co/iE3GUyVmuN">http://t.co/iE3GUyVmuN</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/statuses/392683506867789824">October 22, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Interesting how it doesn't specify he will "start". Maybe that is a given though. I'd be interested to hear how the question was phrased/ the exact answer. Sounds as though another QB [Hendrix] will get significant time as well.
 
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Interesting how it doesn't specify he will "start". Maybe that is a given though. I'd be interested to hear how the question was phrased/ the exact answer. Sounds as though another QB [Hendrix] will get significant time as well.

Why give it away so early? Let AF prepare for Hendrix and TR. TR will play all of or most of the game.
 
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Interesting how it doesn't specify he will "start". Maybe that is a given though. I'd be interested to hear how the question was phrased/ the exact answer. Sounds as though another QB [Hendrix] will get significant time as well.

Not really. It's assumed he will start, so he said play. It would be weird if Nix got hurt and Kelly said, "He's going to start." If he can play, it's assumed he would start.
 

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I hope Tommy gets the start, but that the game is wide open early. If he wants to even be a viable backup, Hendrix needs a few more solid quarters of game experience before he's ready for the kind of pressure that he buckled under Saturday. Last thing we need is Zaire burning his redshirt because a senior QB can't run a plain-vanilla offense.
 

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4 minutes ago, yay!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a> QB Tommy Rees cleared for practice, likely to play Saturday at Air Force <a href="http://t.co/Ky2y8eyre8">http://t.co/Ky2y8eyre8</a></p>— Matt Fortuna (@Matt_Fortuna) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matt_Fortuna/statuses/392696315697573888">October 22, 2013</a></blockquote>
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nm, someone said it a few posts up too :laugh:
 

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Interesting how it doesn't specify he will "start". Maybe that is a given though. I'd be interested to hear how the question was phrased/ the exact answer. Sounds as though another QB [Hendrix] will get significant time as well.

Well, I listened to it, and while I can't recall the exact phrasing of the Q&A, the gist of it was that Tommy was cleared early enough in the week that they will basically just treat this week of practice like any other week. Hendrix will take some 1st team reps, and Malik will take some 2nd team reps, but they will proceed as if Tommy is healthy and just keep an eye on him.

Having said that, I'm hoping Hendrix does get significant garbage time. If we learned anything from Saturday night, it's that he really needs some game reps to be an effective backup.
 
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