We are slow, Longo must go?

[dmort]

The staff had Tuitt add 22 pounds and so far he has few tackles.The added weight has slowed him down IMO.

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

Fox and Carlo have peaked.. There is nothing Longo can do for them.

Tuitt's weight gain may have been claimed as intentional but IMO that's coach talk. The hernia surgery took a toll and he's just simply not in game shape. He should pick it up in the second half of the season.

Farley could use some added muscle so maybe he'd stop bouncing off ball carriers and actually deliver a hit..

We have speed and athleticism but it sometimes gets nullified by **** play calling and poor execution.

There is definitely an Xs and Os issue.

 

[ulukinatme]

Lol, battle of semantics?

"Strength and Conditioning coaches have two primary goals. The first is to improve athletic performance, which usually means improving athletes’ speed, strength, and power..."



Strength and conditioning coach-- helping others to improve their fitness

It's next to impossible to coach speed. You either have it, or you don't. It's one thing if a player is carrying a few extra pounds and it's slowing you down a bit short term, but most of our players are in pretty good shape. Manti wasn't considered an incredibly fast LB at the combine, but he did pretty well on the field didn't he? We're lacking some of that instinct right now I think, and our coaches haven't done a great job calling the plays for the first 3 games.

 

[BGIF]

Longo is at the very end of our list of coaching problems

^

Kuehnja, tatto this backwards on your forehead so everytime you look in a mirror you'll get the message.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Keuhnja is easily the most annoying person on this board.

 

[GBdomer]

Will read again

 

[chicago51]

Not sure what this thread's intent was. I can tell you that it is really hard to increase speed.

You essentially born with a predisposed amount of muscle fibers either type I or type I . Type I fibers are efficent at using oxygen for energy through the Krebs Cycle and tand typically have good endurance. Type II fibers are more efficent at using sugar for energy. The produce their energy through glycolysis primarily. Without oxygen the body can only produce energy for so long so these fibers provide powerful contractions but fatigue out quicker because they use oxygen less efficently.

So those with type I fibers tend to have better endurance (muscle wise at least, if you have a poor heart and lungs that is another story) and those with more type II fibers tend to be your speedsters. Unfortunately you really can't change your muscle fiber types so it is really hard to increase speed. What you can do is specific exercises that will specifically target your type II fibers that you have which can improve speed to a point. But we are talking hundreths of a second here maybe at best you can shave a tenth off.

 

[cody1smith]

Your still dumb sober

Lol. Point out that someone is dumb, while incorrectly spelling a word.

 

[kmoose]

Keuhnja is easily the most annoying person on this board.

Let's not get carried away... Play nice.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Let's not get carried away... Play nice.

He's a clown.

 

[kmoose]

He's a clown.

If that is how you think of him, that's fine. I'm not telling you what to think. I'm merely saying that vocalizing the thought adds nothing to this discussion, and in fact, more often than not distracts people from the topic.

 

[koonja]

Keuhnja is easily the most annoying person on this board.

He's a clown.

Lol, based on what?

Because I'm unimpressed with Longo? Because I have an opinion different than yours on Longo? At least I add something to the board, that being my feelings on the matter, which opens it up for what could be an objective discussion.

What are you adding? Besides negativity and pointing out that 'I'm dumb' and 'I'm a clown', lol. Sorry to bust your bubble, but neither of those colorful statements are near the truth, either.

Back on topic, if the S/C coach is not responsible for increasing team athleticism, what are they judged on then? As long as the players add on weight and can finish a game, they're doing their job?

Sounds like the safest job in American outside of a Government job, lol.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Lol, based on what?

Because I'm unimpressed with Longo? Because I have an opinion different than yours on Longo? At least I add something to the board, that being my feelings on the matter, which opens it up for what could be an objective discussion.

What are you adding? Besides negativity and pointing out that 'I'm dumb' and 'I'm a clown', lol. Sorry to bust your bubble, but neither of those colorful statements are near the truth, either.

Back on topic, if the S/C coach is not responsible for increasing team athleticism, what are they judged on then? As long as the players add on weight and can finish a game, they're doing their job?

Sounds like the safest job in American outside of a Government job, lol.

Everything you've been doing.
All of it.
Your irrationality has been exponentially increasing.

 

[Hammer Of The Gods]

Strength coaches can absolutely increase not only strength but speed, flexibility, explosive output etc. assuming these kids are giving 100% effort then I say longo is failing in the strength and conditioning department. Defense looks terrible in all phases. Schematic, athleticism and strength. We're good at stopping the run ( kind of ) I'm saying that in reference to designed runs. The only way I will defend our strength department is if they are doing what there told. I've heard Kelly reference several times that he wants a big strong team. I can only assume he wouldn't mind being quick and fast too. But right now offense is hanging in there athletically but defense is about as athletic as Miami of Ohio.

 

[IrishLax]

More an issue with scheme/recruiting, IMO. We signed one ILB in the '11 class, zero ILB in the '12 class (in fact passing on Joe Bolden and other smaller but fast LB prospects), and one ILB in the '13 class. This makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE if you want to play two ILBs. We probably should've signed 4-5 ILBs at minimum over those 3 years instead of 2. That is why we have slow, crappy players at that position.

DL? DB? We're signing some pretty good players. They're fast enough. A lot of scheme/mental issues in coverage.

The talent is there on O... except maybe at QB, although Tommy has played quite well this season. All of our issues with O have to do with the offense being designed to suck.

 

[koonja]

Everything you've been doing.
All of it.
Your irrationality has been exponentially increasing.

1) Don't insult people on this board.

2) Especially don't insult people if you have nothing to back it up. That is trolling.

 

[micks60]

A Strength and a Conditioning coach can't magically make players faster.

Dumbass

Ummmm yeah actually that is part of his job. It is not magic though.

 

[rtrn2glory]

I don't think Longo is the problem....right now I think there is an extreme sense of confusion right now on both sides of the ball on what and they're supposed to do and that is what's slowing us down....more so on the defensive side of the ball than the offense

 

[IrishLion]

I think Kuehnja was held "prisoner of the moment" by watching Grace/Fox/Calabrese drunkenly-stumble their way after Purdues scat back off the edge all night.

There is plenty of athleticism on the defense. I've seen a couple critical of Russell, but there was one play where Purdue's back broke off a big run around the end and Russell had enough athleticism to flatten off rather than give up extra yards via taking a deep angle, and still had the speed/acceleration to push him out of bounds.

BJax is fine, Farley isn't strong enough (speed is not the issue) and Collinsworth/Shumate are not burners, but they aren't getting BURNT either (in fact, the one time they've been beat on a "go-route" was due to an UNDERTHROWN ball, ala Gary Gray). Even Jaylon, Councell, and Prince look like supreme athletes with good speed for LBs... The issue is Grace/Fox/Carlo. They are supposed to go sideline-to-sideline, but we were far more spoiled by Manti than we knew. They look like bumbling idiots when chasing scat backs, but that is also a matter of scheme.

Once Diaco called for more nickel, Cole Luke was very impressive (at least on a few plays) in hanging with the backs and slot receivers.

 

[Irishnuke]

The funniest part about this whole thread is that Kuehnja clearly was not drunk despite repeating over and over that he was.

 

[Kak7304]

In favor of Longo, this team looked in good shape for the 4th quarter.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

The funniest part about this whole thread is that Kuehnja clearly was not drunk despite repeating over and over that he was.

It's that extra chromosome... Gets him every time.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

1) Don't insult people on this board.

2) Especially don't insult people if you have nothing to back it up. That is trolling.

Really?
Blaming the strength and conditioning coordinator?
Freaking out when someone bumps a players thread (to discuss that player none the less)

I'm tired of you policing this site, and I know I'm not the only one that feels this way.

I'm not a problematic poster, I've been on this site for years and have gone relatively unnoticed, because I'm not consistently calling posters out and creating irrational arguments.

You need to breathe deep before posting.

 

[koonja]

The funniest part about this whole thread is that Kuehnja clearly was not drunk despite repeating over and over that he was.

Cracked my first beer while golfing at 11:30am. Swear on my mother's life. Continued drinking through the ND game. I wasn't blacked out, but was definitely tipsy.

IDK how you could test my BAC through a computer screen, lol.

 

[koonja]

Really?
Blaming the strength and conditioning coordinator?
Freaking out when someone bumps a players thread (to discuss that player none the less)

I'm tired of you policing this site, and I know I'm not the only one that feels this way.

I'm not a problematic poster, I've been on this site for years and have gone relatively unnoticed, because I'm not consistently calling posters out and creating irrational arguments.

You need to breathe deep before posting.

1) We blame the coaches, why is the S/C coach immune from an objective discussion?

2) And many people agreed with me. Trust me.

3) The 3 pages of this thread strongly disagree with this. You're calling names, and just made a shot at me having down syndrome or being a woman with the extra chromosome (IDK enough about biology to be sure). Stuff like this is trolling and is worthy of a ban when it's repetitive, which it clearly is with you.

4) Completely hypercritical, see above comments.

Mods, is there any reason this guys repetitive insults go unpunished? It's time for him to take a break.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I think the coaches need to just set the D free. There will be mistakes, but there will be plays as well. Sometimes I feel like, on both sides of the ball, there is to much 'system'. At some point you have to let your players play. I don't feel like we do that.

 

[Rizzophil]

We have zero depth on the d line. That isn't Longo's fault

 

[gkautz10]

i guess we should hire Amir's dad so we can look like Purdue.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

I think it goes back to us overhyping every recruit we get, which obviously results in being disappointed.. every time we get a 3* guy, everyone says, "Awesome, I love this pickup.. really underrated guy".. I mean, it gets tiresome

 

[Ironman8]

Notre Dame is 14-2 in their last 16 games, with losses to Alabama and a close game to Michigan in front of the largest home field advantage in the history of college football. Let's try and maintain a tiny bit of perspective. Please.

Again, things aren't perfect. There are obviously areas we need to improve upon. But in a crazy CFB world where upsets and crazy things happen every week, I will take Ws while attempting to improve. But that's just me.