Which freshmen do you think will have the biggest impact this season?

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Talk about flying under the radar, seems like we haven't talked about Rashad Kinlaw since the day he committed.

I'm REALLY high on Kinlaw, although he may not make significant playing time outside of ST this year. IMO second best athlete in the class after Jaylon (although neck and neck with Redfield). Could be a good kick returner IMO.
 

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Eddie Vanderdoes...what's sad is he would've been my clear cut choice for this thread. Moving on....

I'm not sure any freshmen will have a big impact this season. How many made an impact last year? Two (Day and Russell)?

My answer is whichever freshman makes the most special teams plays (Jaylon, Redfield, Deeb, etc).

Also, I see a lot of Bryant in this thread but don't sleep on Folston. I think he's a more dynamic back than Greg but doesn't get as much attention.
 

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Eddie Vanderdoes...what's sad is he would've been my clear cut choice for this thread. Moving on....

I'm not sure any freshmen will have a big impact this season. How many made an impact last year? Two (Day and Russell)?

My answer is whichever freshman makes the most special teams plays (Jaylon, Redfield, Deeb, etc).

Also, I see a lot of Bryant in this thread but don't sleep on Folston. I think he's a more dynamic back than Greg but doesn't get as much attention.

agree 100%...loved his tape from first time i saw it...IMO a "poor mans Reggie Bush"...watch his junior yr tapes if have some time-some incredible runs and moves you just can't teach. evryones is in love with bryant b/c/ he's so jacked up/specimen but comparing tape on the field in terms of doing things with ball in his hands--I like folston more. (still love bryant too! just not as much as folston)
 

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Greg Bryant for sure. He'll be our starting running back sooner than later. The guys a beast!

Like others have said, I see Corey Robinson being a big contributor to the offense this year. With his size he'll be a big red zone threat that will cause big mismatches for the opposing defense.

Is it August 31st yet? Can't wait for the season to start!
 

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Greg Bryant for sure. He'll be our starting running back sooner than later. The guys a beast!

Like others have said, I see Corey Robinson being a big contributor to the offense this year. With his size he'll be a big red zone threat that will cause big mismatches for the opposing defense.

Is it August 31st yet? Can't wait for the season to start!

I like both athletes but ...

Julius Jones stated he needed half the season to pick up the audibles, blitz responsibility, blocking technique, and pass routes of a Div 1 RBin a less sophisticated offense.

ND has had a tremendous height advantage in the Red Zone throughout the Kelly Era but hasn't capitalized on it. The size, speed, or hands of the WRs, TEs, and RBs has not been the problem in the Red Zone. Its been a combination of play calling (see Tulsa) and QB reads and overthown or underthrown passes (did I mention Tulsa?). It hasn't mattered who the QB was Crist, Rees, Hendrix, or Golson. And it has not mattered who the O.C. was. Martin's Red Zone TD's haven't improved over his predecessor.
 

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We could play all frosh and I think they'd compete with most teams. Experience obviously counts for a lot, but this is a hugely talented class.
Is Corey over 7ft yet? I'm looking forward to seeing him fight for jump balls in the red zone.
 
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My initial choice isn't playing football this year. Jaylon is the obvious answer, but Elmer might be the most important if Heaven forbid there's an injury.
 

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I'd be surprised if Bryant doesn't get meaningful carries. Maybe not RB1, but a contributor. Cole Luke could play his way into the CB rotation if someone gets hurt. Jaylon could be too talented to keep off the field. Maybe Folston in the slot or Corey Robinson as a situational receiver. Other guys on special teams.

But I'm going to throw out one name not mentioned yet: Mike Huerman as a pass-catching flex-out tight end. The new Eifert. Only guy ahead of him in that slot is Koyack, who's still all potential. He was an EE, so he's ahead of the game. So I say Huerman in '13. Book it.
 

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But I'm going to throw out one name not mentioned yet: Mike Huerman as a pass-catching flex-out tight end. The new Eifert. Only guy ahead of him in that slot is Koyack, who's still all potential. He was an EE, so he's ahead of the game. So I say Huerman in '13. Book it.

Interesting point. Mr Potential has played in 24 of 26 games his first two years but only has 4 catches for 44 Yds. That's less than 2 ypg. I'm concerned whether he has potential. At 6-5 250+ he makes an opposing bookend to Niklas's 6-7 260. Or split them out together. Lot's of possibilities passing to either one of them or have them slant in while GA takes the ball outside. That amounts to a 7 man line.

Has Heuerman put on wt? The Spring roster had him at 6-3.5 218. Unless he has I'd consider putting Daniel Smith in the hybrid slot over Mike. Smith is a 1/2 inch taller and only 3 lbs less, essentially the same frame but more mobile and he's had more weight room and technique time.
 

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My top 5 picks are: Jaylon Smith, Corey Robinson, Greg Bryant, Luke Cole, and Max Redfield. I think others will see the field but these are the ones that I think see the most action at their respective positions, not just ST. Wonder who will take over PR duties?
 

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Yes, thats why I put his name in the thread?


Mea culpa!


(Then Rees is going to have an outstanding year as a byproduct. Somebody has to be throwing all those balls that Robinson, Heuerman, and Onwualu are going to catching.)
 

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James Onwualu kid will be a stud.

I would be pleasantly surprised if Onwualu was the standout freshman. Weirder things have happened, but he would be pretty far down the line of kids in this class I would see as major contributors. Love him as a prospect, but not necessarily more than other kids when it comes to year 1 production.
 

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I think you're in for a big surprise then. I think he as good of a shot as anyone at being the starting running back against Temple.

And I don't see where you're coming from when you said that there is experience in front of him. With the way GA runs the ball, he doesn't stand a chance being the #1 back. The only other back i could see starting in front of Bryant is Carlisle

Agreed. Bryant should at least be splitting reps with Carlisle this year. GAIII will be utilized the same way he was last year. A change of pace back.
 
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Thread is a time-waster but what-the-heck?

This team is extremely veteran. VERY little room for immediate significant time. On defense, we have only two slight areas of instability: one safety position, and the back-up DLine reps. On offense, our areas are one OLine position and Running Back. I do not count Tommy, as that position is going to require his seniority handling a team with big games.

Looking at that: Can Redfield dislodge Shumate, Baratti, AND Collingsworth? Big task. EV WOULD have clearly been on the field as a DLine sub, but now Isaac is our guy. Steve Elmer could easily move into the line-up if Hanratty can't do it, and Hiestand thinks that he's more ready than Stanley. Bryant's situation is well discussed.

So, who? Redfield? Rochell? Elmer? Bryant? .... or, will Diaco go All-The-Way-Fool and invent wild new ways to get our BEST frosh, Jaylon, on the field? If no frosh do anything but run downfield on STs, then this question is answered: no one. If Bryant or Folston take over kick/punt returning, then maybe that.

I agree; that is why I think this is a setup for a player in rotation. I think that Corey Robinson and James Onwualu will do very well.

I would be pleasantly surprised if Onwualu was the standout freshman. Weirder things have happened, but he would be pretty far down the line of kids in this class I would see as major contributors. Love him as a prospect, but not necessarily more than other kids when it comes to year 1 production.

Wooly, love you bro, but that kid has physical gifts that he has developed as a freshman that nobody else has. Get a tape of this kid jumping out of the pool, repeatedly. He has the mental toughness and motivation. And the maturity.
 
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I would be pleasantly surprised if Onwualu was the standout freshman. Weirder things have happened, but he would be pretty far down the line of kids in this class I would see as major contributors. Love him as a prospect, but not necessarily more than other kids when it comes to year 1 production.

I can agree with that. I think that he will just put himself into a position to get on the field and wont give it up. He expects more out of himself than anyone and thats a start but he is physically ready to contribute as well. Ideally, Id love to see him sit a year and just gain experience.
 

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I can agree with that. I think that he will just put himself into a position to get on the field and wont give it up. He expects more out of himself than anyone and thats a start but he is physically ready to contribute as well. Ideally, Id love to see him sit a year and just gain experience.

That's a really good point. By all accounts, he pushes himself very hard and strives for the very best. Those type of kids always find a way to rise above expectations.
 

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Wooly, love you bro, but that kid has physical gifts that he has developed as a freshman that nobody else has. Get a tape of this kid jumping out of the pool, repeatedly. He has the mental toughness and motivation. And the maturity.

I hear ya homie, but I disagree that he is more physically gifted than kids like jaylon, redfield and folston. He definetely is physically gifted, but so is the rest of the class. physical strength also doesnt tell the full story on a prospect. Remember Filer jumping out of a pool? Like I said, I would be overwhelmed with happiness if James was the frosh that stood out, I just think its a lot to ask from a kid like him in his first year. Especially coming in with this class. A class filled with highly touted expectations.

I have no doubt James will ball out at Notre Dame. Just not ready to predict him breaking out as a freshman.
 

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Hes got a little Golden Tate in him, where hes natural position is being a playmaker. Hes got the body of a rb, skill set of a wr, and mentality of a LB. He is going to be a handful to tackle in the open field 1-on-1 with his lower body strength.

Another kid to watch out for is Andrew Antognoli. From what I have been told by kids who have competed with him, he has a very very good leg and confidence to match. He will get more than a fair shot to win the job come August.
 

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I am going to go with Folston. I think by the end of the year he could be getting a fair amount of time in the slot.
 
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I hear ya homie, but I disagree that he is more physically gifted than kids like jaylon, redfield and folston. He definetely is physically gifted, but so is the rest of the class. physical strength also doesnt tell the full story on a prospect. Remember Filer jumping out of a pool? Like I said, I would be overwhelmed with happiness if James was the frosh that stood out, I just think its a lot to ask from a kid like him in his first year. Especially coming in with this class. A class filled with highly touted expectations.

I have no doubt James will ball out at Notre Dame. Just not ready to predict him breaking out as a freshman.

Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant relative to his position group. With the WR's we have some good players, but nobody that is "going to play the whole game." Even DD and TJ aren't going to play the whole game, (at this point), like a Michael Floyd did.

With Jaylon, he may be a better overall talent within his position group, but the competition in that group is fierce. Seriously, I think we have two DOGS that would start almost anywhere, and another, Romeo Okwara, that appears to be moving to CAT that would be a starter in most programs also! Safety, I don't have as good a feel for. But a lot of the people who know expect a big season out of two db's Farley and Jackson. (I know Jackson is a corner.)

Which says to me that our backfield has solidified tremendously in this last year. Reports are coming in that Shumate is becoming a physical freak, and he has some really good experience. Without going in to a lot of depth, it seems exactly like that is what we have at this position, quality depth. How many teams have the number of players we have with experience and significant skills? How many guys do we have at safety?

So my point was JO was the freshman with talent most in the position to break out, not the freshman with the most talent!

Hes got a little Golden Tate in him, where hes natural position is being a playmaker. Hes got the body of a rb, skill set of a wr, and mentality of a LB. He is going to be a handful to tackle in the open field 1-on-1 with his lower body strength.

Another kid to watch out for is Andrew Antognoli. From what I have been told by kids who have competed with him, he has a very very good leg and confidence to match. He will get more than a fair shot to win the job come August.

And where I fall short is rating this team with a James Onwualu, and a CJ Prosise. That is a trick question, because shouldn't CJ count as a freshman? I know he isn't a Mobster, but what the hay? He is playing a new position and he is new to the field.

I seriously (and here is where I get in trouble hyperbolizing) can't even imaging an offense with enough time for the quarterback to throw, putting CJ, and JO out with Tight Ends Niklas, and Koyack or Welch, and either Daniels, CBreezy, or in certain situations, Corey Rob, (I have heard he is over two hundred pounds now; is that true?)
 
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I can agree with that. I think that he will just put himself into a position to get on the field and wont give it up. He expects more out of himself than anyone and thats a start but he is physically ready to contribute as well. Ideally, Id love to see him sit a year and just gain experience.

That's a really good point. By all accounts, he pushes himself very hard and strives for the very best. Those type of kids always find a way to rise above expectations.

When's the announcement? :wink:
 

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onawualu is gonna have a freshman year like TJ Jones did, i can feelz it
 
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