'10 IL QB Tommy Rees (Notre Dame Man)

[arrowryan]

Another good thing is that our offense probably fits Rees more than Golson. I think Rees has the chance to do great with two tight end sets, run the ball, with the play action pass.

 

[fightingirish26]

I was as negative on Tommy two years ago as most everyone else, but I can now look back with a more open mind. When DC was in over his head, Tommy came in with a cool, confident head and lead this team to an 8-5 season. If he had last year's defense, that season would have likely been 9-3 or even 10-2. We should remember that Tommy was a sophomore. He is now a senior who has rebounded from his own off-field problems. Last season, he accepted his demotion and was there when the team needed him.

Every one of Tommy's on-field mistakes was due to over-aggressiveness. He wanted so badly to win that he sometimes tried to force throws. The team responded to Tommy's leadership last season, and they will do so again.

Would I like to have Golson back this season? Sure! Is the season over before it starts? Far from it. We have an experienced quarterback returning, one who bleeds blue and gold. Backing him up is a guy who nearly won the starting job a year ago. The quarterback position is one of the least of our worries.

I agreed until here

 

[Irish Insanity]

We seem to have named him the starter already

 

[Damion704]

Notre Dame QB Tommy Rees will excel in place of Everett Golson - NCAA Football - Sporting News

 

[returnofthemack]

"Notre Dame’s best quarterback, its best pure thrower, was on its bench all along—but Kelly knew he had that stout defense and knew he only needed so much offense. Golson gave him that extra run threat defenses had to account for, a tantalizing and too often mesmerizing possibility that blinds too many coaches all too often."
"...ability to throw downfield—with accuracy—with Rees. In all fairness, Rees never should have lost the starting job last year."

ummm, what?

 

[NDinL.A.]

"Notre Dame’s best quarterback, its best pure thrower, was on its bench all along—but Kelly knew he had that stout defense and knew he only needed so much offense. Golson gave him that extra run threat defenses had to account for, a tantalizing and too often mesmerizing possibility that blinds too many coaches all too often."
"...ability to throw downfield—with accuracy—with Rees. In all fairness, Rees never should have lost the starting job last year."

ummm, what?

It was written by Rees' dad.

I mean, it HAD to be, right?

 

[alaskandomer]

It's frightening to think about what Kelly's W/L record at ND might be if not for Rees. In the parallel universe where he never commits to ND, Kelly might have been fired already. I can't think of any player who's done more for his team and still been vilified to the extent Tommy has.

To be honest, it would be pure poetry if Tommy starts in 2013 and leads us to our first ever BCS victory.

It would indeed.

 

[Emcee77]

It's frightening to think about what Kelly's W/L record at ND might be if not for Rees. In the parallel universe where he never commits to ND, Kelly might have been fired already. I can't think of any player who's done more for his team and still been vilified to the extent Tommy has.

To be honest, it would be pure poetry if Tommy starts in 2013 and leads us to our first ever BCS victory.

Absolutely. I've got a lot of respect for Tommy and I would head into this season optimistic with Tommy at the helm. Even without Cierre, Theo and Tyler, we have a lot of talent at RB and TE, and our top OL have come a long way (assuming N Mart and Hanratty hold up as starters, as I expect), and T.J. and DaVaris seem primed for real breakout seasons, and the defense could actually be better -- and based on all of that I think we can win a lot of games with a cagey vet like Tommy under center. Maybe all of them.

 

[Irishpinoy]

"Notre Dame’s best quarterback, its best pure thrower, was on its bench all along—but Kelly knew he had that stout defense and knew he only needed so much offense. Golson gave him that extra run threat defenses had to account for, a tantalizing and too often mesmerizing possibility that blinds too many coaches all too often."
"...ability to throw downfield—with accuracy—with Rees. In all fairness, Rees never should have lost the starting job last year."

ummm, what?

Is this guy on drugs. I'd play Zaire and see what he can do. He probably has more upside than Reese who is a good back up.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Is this guy on drugs. I'd play Zaire and see what he can do. He probably has more upside than Reese who is a good back up.

Rees

 

[Circa]

I just said in another thread but I'll say it here too.. Tommy has never started a game other than FSU in the bowl that we have lost and FSU game was a complete defensive breakdown! What's the reason for the hate? He does nothing but win games and It seems people just don't like him for 14 int's in his soph yr.. #alwaysconfused

 

[Domina Nostra]

I just said in another thread but I'll say it here too.. Tommy has never started a game other than FSU in the bowl that we have lost and FSU game was a complete defensive breakdown! What's the reason for the hate? He does nothing but win games and It seems people just don't like him for 14 int's in his soph yr.. #alwaysconfused

Tommy has heart and got the job done in many situation where someone else would have folded. He'd be a sick helicopter pilot or poker player, no doubt.

But for me, it was his total inability to extend a play (not fast, not quick, not slippery), his lack of a big arm (ussually a QB is either fast or had a big arm, he has neither), and his red-zone interceptions (he made a lot of big, big mistakes), that made him so hard to watch in big games. He just looked like a second tier athlete in big games and the defenses knew it. Golson, on the other hand, made a lot of mistakes but looked like he belonged.

Tommy is a senior now, so I would expect improvement in all departments. If we get the equivalent of Sophmore Tommy Rees (I am not sure what I think of Jr. Tommy Rees), we'll be taking a huge step backwards.

 

[OCIrish]

I just said in another thread but I'll say it here too.. Tommy has never started a game other than FSU in the bowl that we have lost and FSU game was a complete defensive breakdown! What's the reason for the hate? He does nothing but win games and It seems people just don't like him for 14 int's in his soph yr.. #alwaysconfused

Well...... there have been other games that Tommy has started that he lost.....and I'm not going to to pile on Tommy a whole lot, but you know what you get with Rees. That's precisely why he got beat out by EG last season, he is just soo limited in his athletic ability, and not his fault!! He's come in and done some good things out if the bullpen, but teams know he's limited and they will drop 7-8 in coverage and wait for him to make a mistake. Because against the really good teams, he's going to make them.......that being said, I don't foresee Malik being ready come August.....I just don't.......

 

[Circa]

Well...... there have been other games that Tommy has started that he lost.....and I'm not going to to pile on Tommy a whole lot, but you know what you get with Rees. That's precisely why he got beat out by EG last season, he is just soo limited in his athletic ability, and not his fault!! He's come in and done some good things out if the bullpen, but teams know he's limited and they will drop 7-8 in coverage and wait for him to make a mistake. Because against the really good teams, he's going to make them.......that being said, I don't foresee Malik being ready come August.....I just don't.......

Not gonna start an argument but If you could tell me the games he's started and lost other than FSU It would be news to me... I've always been a fan of this kid even wanted him over Crist before the South Florida fiasco in '11 but I've always been thrown down for believing a win is a win ugly or not!

He's not your ideal looking fundamental wise QB but he is our mentalQB that does nothing but win games since he's been here!

 

[pkt77242]

In 2011 it was Michigan, USC, Stanford and FSU that ND lost too when Rees started.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Not gonna start an argument but If you could tell me the games he's started and lost other than FSU It would be news to me... I've always been a fan of this kid even wanted him over Crist before the South Florida fiasco in '11 but I've always been thrown down for believing a win is a win ugly or not!

He's not your ideal looking fundamental wise QB but he is our mentalQB that does nothing but win games since he's been here!

Unless I'm mistaken, Michigan, USC, and Stanford two years ago.

EDIT: Beat me to it, pkt.

 

[Circa]

In 2011 it was Michigan, USC, Stanford and FSU that ND lost too when Rees started.

Yep, you're absolutely right! My argument is null but still feel as tho we win when he plays more than not...
List of Notre Dame Fighting Irish starting quarterbacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Circa]

To help my argument; "passed for over 200 yards in eight games ... threw multiple TDs in six games ... threw at least one touchdown pass in 11 straight games from 2010 to 2011, which ranks third for the longest streak in school history ... threw for 2,871 yards and 20 TDs on the year ... completed 65.5 percent of passes, the second-best completion percentage in a season by any Notre Dame QB ... tied school record by completing 14 consecutive passes at one point ... completed 135 consecutive passes without an interception, the third-longest streak in school history ... ranked in the top five in school history in single-season passes attempted, completed, TD passes and passing yards ..." Wiki'

Idk seems to me I'll take him as our senior starting QB and Captain any year your asking...

 

[ulukinatme]

In 2011 it was Michigan, USC, Stanford and FSU that ND lost too when Rees started.

Not to be a Rees apologist here, and while a loss is a loss, I wouldn't pin the Michigan and USC games on Rees personally. I could probably make a case for FSU as well since the offense on a whole only put up 7 points I think. Here are my reasons:

Michigan - He put us in position to win, put us up 24-7 at the end of the 3rd quarter. Michigan inexplicably comes back with 3 straight scores to go up 24-28 (Yes, Rees did have a crazy fumble somewhere in there). Tommy scores again to put us up 31-28, defense buckles yet again at the end to lose 31-35. 31 points should have been enough to win, defense blew that one.

USC - Offensively we were pretty anemic, not just at the QB position. USC controlled the clock 40 minutes to our 20, it was bad. We only rushed for 46 yards on 14 carries. We also had 3 turnovers, only one of which was possibly on Tommy with the pass out of the backfield to Cierre. It was a bad game on both sides of the ball really, but if you take away the fumble at the goal line by Crist we were in that game despite how USC was performing.

Ultimately the knock on Rees has always been that he's less athletic than the other QBs and he had turnover problems his Sophomore year. He was an underclassman, I give him a pass on the later there. While he may not be as athletic, he's a baller and is partially responsible for the good fortune we had last year. If Crist would have stayed the starter in 2011 you have to wonder if we would have gone 12-0 in the regular season last year.

 

[Voltaire]

Not to be a Rees apologist here, and while a loss is a loss, I wouldn't pin the Michigan and USC games on Rees personally.

My biggest issue with Tommy in that USC game was that Tommy was the primary reason that Jonas got his knee blown out. Tommy threw a duck out into the flat that Jonas had to wait for and high point, leaving him totally exposed to the hit that blew out his knee because Jonas had to go up and get Tommy's floater. Direct cause and effect where if Tommy had a better arm, Jonas wouldn't have gotten injured.

 

[PANDFAN]

My biggest issue with Tommy in that USC game was that Tommy was the primary reason that Jonas got his knee blown out. Tommy threw a duck out into the flat that Jonas had to wait for and high point, leaving him totally exposed to the hit that blew out his knee because Jonas had to go up and get Tommy's floater. Direct cause and effect where if Tommy had a better arm, Jonas wouldn't have gotten injured.

come on man! it's part of the game..no need to pin an injury on someone.

 

[ThePiombino]

Yep, you're absolutely right! My argument is null but still feel as tho we win when he plays more than not...
List of Notre Dame Fighting Irish starting quarterbacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To be fair, ND won a few of those games despite Tommy - see USC 2010.

 

[FLDomer]

My biggest issue with Tommy in that USC game was that Tommy was the primary reason that Jonas got his knee blown out. Tommy threw a duck out into the flat that Jonas had to wait for and high point, leaving him totally exposed to the hit that blew out his knee because Jonas had to go up and get Tommy's floater. Direct cause and effect where if Tommy had a better arm, Jonas wouldn't have gotten injured.

I think it was against BC and if I remember correctly he caught the poor pass from Rees but had already made a cut and turned up field and was tackled from the front low and with both arms wrapping his legs....I cant say I would put this one on Tommy. Now TJ landing on his head in the WF game was all Tommy.

 

[rtrn2glory]

To be fair, ND won a few of those games despite Tommy - see USC 2010.

If i remember correctly Tommy moved them down the field right before half in that game to take the lead....thought he hardly played bad for a true freshman in that environment personally

 

[ThePiombino]

If i remember correctly Tommy moved them down the field right before half in that game to take the lead....thought he hardly played bad for a true freshman in that environment personally

Not saying he didn't have his moments, but he had under 150 yards passing, 3 INTs and a fumble if I remember correctly. I think it's safe to say that ND won despite Tommy.

 

[rtrn2glory]

you're right 4 turnovers not good, but threw 2 TD's at key moments late in the first half to put us in position to win.

think this is a case where we're both right and we're both wrong

 

[ThePiombino]

you're right 4 turnovers not good, but threw 2 TD's at key moments late in the first half to put us in position to win.

think this is a case where we're both right and we're both wrong

Motion passes.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

To me, at ND, cut a quarterbacks games against everybody but ranked competition. Did he make his averages against his best opponents? It is simple.

And for this season, last year Tommy found his calling; coming off the bench on that two minute drill. He is devistating. He knows game situations so well and opponents don't have time to game plan against him!

 

[kmoose]

To me, at ND, cut a quarterbacks games against everybody but ranked competition. Did he make his averages against his best opponents? It is simple.

If it's that simple, why do they keep stats for the other games?

 

[ulukinatme]

To be fair, ND won a few of those games despite Tommy - see USC 2010.

Tommy neither won nor lost that game for us. He played pretty well for a freshman though considering we were sitting on an 8 or 9 game losing streak to Southern Cal at the time and playing in the Coliseum. The MVP of that game was Robert Hughes...and maybe the good Lord for the rain he provided. USC dropped some potentially game ending balls late in the game.